***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

The GT83 doesn't have switchable graphics like the GT80. The battery life even non gaming is quite bad, and good luck carrying it around with the two power bricks (the GT80 was bad enough already). There's still 3 or 4 (forgot which) m.2 slots in the system, and the same hard drive bay as before. You'll want to mostly keep it as a portable desktop rather than a laptop.

I cant say i know of any aprticular issues aside that my CPU seems to run kinda hot (6820HK) and the USB ports can be hit or miss.

 

I agree it's bulky, but I travel with it quite a bit (50K flight miles so far this year, all domestic US). Granted I rarely carry it on my back, and instead rest the Everki Titan bag on my carry on bag, but it's still manageable.

However, if I didn't travel as much as I do, I wouldn't have it and instead I'd have a powerful desktop at home, and maybe a smaller "thin" gaming laptop.

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any suggestions for a good 2.5 in ssd? My current one (850 evo) in my gt80s has issues (it freezes, and makes buzzing noises) either due to an electrical issue in the laptop or a fault in the drive itself.
Also, I noticed they changed the back of the laptop how hard is it to open up to swap the ram? I don't want to break any tabs on it...

I'll post some benchmarks when I get it in... Should I swap my components before or after benchmarking the system? I will be keeping most of the components currently in my gt80s and I will be sending back my gt80s with the stock components that will arrive in the gt83.

 

Always run *stock* for the acceptance period, to let any build failure happen, so you know it's failed on it's own, and not due to anything you did while it's opened.

Benchmarking is a good way to stretch it's legs, and you want to note the results - save images / text files with the results along with hwinfo logs, etc. Get as much consequential data you can get around the testing, gaming, etc.

Then after a couple of weeks, add / change 1 thing at a time, and let it burn in / "fail" if it's going to fail on it's own.

You've got 2 years warranty, you don't need to rush things - enjoy them fully - appreciate them completely, rushing through and you will miss things, take your time and will think of and notice things you never knew you missed before when rushing through.

 

Avoid TLC Based SSDs if you want an SSD that lasts you longer and gives you consistent performance. Get an 850 PRO which is an MLC NAND Based SSD

Most SSD manufacturers are unfortunately going in the TLC direction as it's cheaper, but I cannot count the amounts of complains about crappy performance after a while using TLC based SSDs, heck, I've seen people report their sequential write speeds go as low as 100MB/S with those drives.

Just look for the user reviews on Amazon of the Toshiba OCZ SSDs and see what I mean

 

Agree with this, the 2.5" SATA Pro's have been a good purchase for me, worth the extra $.

 

How long should I hold onto my computer after I get the new one? Should I do an unboxing and side by side comparison?
What tests should I perform in the new model to ensure its performing ok?

 

I've had this issue b4 its kind of random
I reflashed my bios and its been fine since and very rare on my gt80s.

 

Are the power bricks soldered together? Is it possible to detach them?

Does the gt83 support windows hello?

 

The Power Bricks are "fused" together at the connector merging into the power merging box. You have to have both connected to power on.

Windows Hello? Sheezzz....

 

@mkinasz if @mason2smart 's reflashing works, it might be enough setting the BIOS to defaults, saving, and rebooting to see if that was enough.

 

There should be a time limit set by MSI for the parts exchange between the old and new GT80S => GT83, that's your limit.

If the new GT83 comes up ok after swapping in the RAM / Storage, maybe run until the limit of return anyway just in case the new GT83 fails - infant mortality - then you still have your GT80S around to swap the parts back and keep working.

 

setting the bios to defaults did not work for me

 

what tests should I run on it to ensure proper temps and performance?
Should i try OC'ing it?

 

Do the same as you have been doing on your GT80S, that history of use and testing and measurement there will now come in handy compared to what you see on the GT83VR

 

Good to know, sometimes the wholesale clearing of the BIOS areas by the flash tool is needed, a step similar but it goes further than setting defaults.

 

didnt 100 percent fix it but the issue was mitigated a lot by the reset

I think it could be a partial issue with the battery and static charge or something.

 

Is the 1 tb hdd that comes in the gt83 any good? I'm considering holding onto it. I could also try to trade in my 256gb messed up 850 evo for a different drive. I think best buy and micro center take used ssd's... If I trade it in for a 1 tb I can pick between which of the two I send back to MSI.

 

It's always a good idea to hold on the stock parts that came with a laptop, even if you replace them, as the few dollars you get for them can't offset the convenience having them for RMA or eventual sale provides.

The 1TB in the GT80 held the recovery image, and the original install on the SSD RAID0 was required to use it, so saving all 3 on the shelf unchanged is ideal.

Then buy new parts free and clear that you can pull when you RMA or sell it to put into your next build.

 

@mason2smart

Be smart...be like hmscott

 

i cant send a computer back to msi without ssd's/ram/hdd's though

 

Yeah, I was wondering why you were asking this, your laptop has custom storage and RAM, no stock stuff in it, and you are sending that to MSI to swap for a new GT83VR - and MSI is putting your storage and RAM into the new unit.

So why are you asking??

 

should i try to trade in my messed up ssd if I can at like best buy and buy a 1 tb hdd?

 

Oh, well then my answer is the same, keep all the original storage and RAM on the shelf and put in new stuff, don't do any trades - especially don't try to pass off faulty hardware...

You should be able to get MSI to swap you a new SSD for the bad one when you return your laptop for the trade-in - it's failed and if it's OEM part from the original laptop it's under MSI warranty right now, unless it's from the boutique you got it from - was it a boutique upgrade or the original MSI SSD?

 

the 850 evo is not oem

 

I'm curious, what kind of overclocks are people getting on their skylake GT83s? Can't find too much info on OC results on the GT83's SLI 1080s, though at least some on the 6820HK

I'm at +200 core +150mem and the cards are around 77-82c under max load, so far no stability issues though i've seen GPU2 hit voltage limit a couple times in minecraft possibly due to the OS forcing it to run SLI (which it doesn't support at all)

CPU is at 4GHz on all cores with a 40mV undervolt, but it still thermal throttles some

 

Just set up my gt83. I have not swapped drives or opened it yet.

It only shows a single 1 tb HDD and no pcie ssds installed??? I checked both in BIOS and in device manager... The os is on the 1 tb instead of the pcie drives... What should I do?

 

The left mouse button is also a bit springy and less solid than the right and the 2 PSU converter box has the cord attached sideways so it doesnt lie flat when I plug it in.

The screen brightness seems to have been reduced over my previous titan.

Other than that it seems like a solid machine

Any known/reported issues I should test for?

Will post a fire strike test soon

 

@MSI Myco @MSI Natalie
@hmscott
Do I send the laptop back to MSI?

 

What GT83VR model did you purchase? How about the actual NVMe cards? Do you see them in the compartment?

 

The laptop was bought through the cross exchange upgrade program. Its the 253 model.

 

I didn't open it up BC its a cross exchange laptop and I would have no way of proving I didnt take them if I break the seal.

I was going to keep the better ssd and ram from my old gt80s and send the old 80s laptop back to MSI with the ssds from the new 83vr...

 

This model has no SSD.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G5JG2699

 

I was told it matched the specs of my gt80s 002 by MSI. When I looked it up it listed 2x 128 ssd online on Amazon

 

This is the 253 model on Amazon but it's not showing SSD.
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Hardcore...ie=UTF8&qid=1497730604&sr=8-1&keywords=GT83VR

 

Either way, MSI rep told me on the phone that this model would have the stuff to send back to them in it... Obviously this is not the case

 

Follow up with them on this case, since it's not equivalent to what you had previously.

 

CUK listed it as a stock 253....
Completely confused me...
Seems as though MSI offers all or no ssd the next level up has 2x 500 GB pcie

 

Actually that's the wring link but it was a 253 listed for 3.6k on amazon instead of 3.4k on newegg

 

Just have MSI mail you the SSD's manually. And opening the laptop case DOES NOT void the warranty. Only in some European countries (and I don't know which ones) does it void anything. Not in North America at all.

 

Here's official MSI page for GT83VR 253, no SSD.
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Yea I now noticed... I was on vacation when the MSI rep talked on the phone with me so I never took the time to double check the info... He told me that the new model was equivalent in specs and that I should do the cross exchange and swap drives so I can keep my upgrades...

I do have an extra 2.5 in ssd 256gb so I wonder if they might accept that...

 

This is a good case in point why you never give up your original SSD / HDD, and keep it for future use if you upgrade - negotiate with the boutique shop doing the build so you can keep the original OEM parts. They aren't worth much to the shop - they probably have stacks of them.

I'd send an email to MSI and explain that they sent you an "equivalent" model with no M.2 SSD's, so you can't send them any.

I would think sending back the 1TB drive for the 2.5" would be enough.

I wouldn't offer the 2.5" Samsung SSD, even if you think it's flaky in your GT80S, Samsung thought it was ok, so don't waste the value.

They can't expect you to send the M.2 SSD's when there aren't any in the model they traded you.

 

Hey guys I'm in the market for the new laptop and looking for some advice I'm not expert and notebook tech I have two choices
http://www.microcenter.com/product/479019/GT73VR_TITAN_PRO-693_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

http://www.microcenter.com/product/...5_184_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Aluminum_Black


Now I want something that will work out of the box and won't have to worry about drivers bios crashes which one of these two laptops you guys would suggest to buy and enjoy for average consumer like me

 

If you are going for something you wouldn't have to fiddle with and just want to pop the box and play I would suggest the GT73 as it is a single card solution. No having to fiddle about getting sli to run which is the biggest concern.

Both systems barring defects and infant mortality should perform admirably and then some if you take the time to time them.

Edit: I would forwarn you the gt73 may have some issues with ghosting due to response time if I recall. Though I suggest trying it out and seeing if it's enough to bother you.

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@Teenzo
MSI has responded to the 120hz blur in the GT73 display with faster 3ms 120hz displays in the GT75:

120Hz 3ms Displays! - Slim Mechanical Keyboard! - New MSI Notebooks - Computex 2017


The GT75 is enough of a refinement to get it over the GT73.

The only potential gotcha is that we don't know if MSI reduced the M.2 sockets from 3 to 2 in the GT75.

 

No information about pricing and availability though but looks very promising I'm afraid it might be available after summer

 

Hmm do you think if particular game doesn't support SLI it will run worse than if laptop would have single 1070 ?

 

The main reason to not get an MSI GT75 or GT83 SLI model is that they all now require 2x power supplies to be connected through a junction box and all those cables and boxes are a huge weight and load of wires to manage when packing and unpacking the laptop for portable use.

SLI is good on so many games; I won't usually purchase a game unless I think it has or soon will have SLI (the developer says they are working on it), so it's never been a problem for me.

For the few games I still buy that only support single GPU, for the most part the single GPU performance is good enough to live with.

I do recommend getting the highest performance GPU you can to SLI, and in this case the 1070 isn't that. But, a single 1070 is as good as 2x 980m's in SLI (with a game that supports SLI), so that's likely good enough performance still for most games.

The GT73/GT75 1080 is the sweet spot, enough cooling, a 7820HK OC'able CPU, a great combination

 

The one listen on micro Center website has 7700hq so it's locked but gt83 has i6820hk and it's 2300$ which I think it's a great deal isn't it?