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Ah, that's good news!
thanks for the feedback! I think i'll stop at 90Hz, it seems smooth enough for me

 

Welcome to the sick ballers club

I've had my MSI GT83VR-6RE since April 2018. The screen has been oced to 90hz and then bumped to 100hz since May, I haven't had any issues. I haven't heard of any screens failing from being OCed but I've only been here since April. Perhaps one of the other seasoned vets can chime in here.

The one thing I will recommend though is to set up a custom fan curve in MSI Dragon Center since you are going to be displaying 50% more frames than before. Your CPU/GPU temps will be a little higher than usual because of this. A custom fan curve will help balance things out. You may also want to consider using one of the vsync options while gaming or RTTS to limit how many frames you are producing so that you can control the amount of heat generated by the dual 1080s.

 

Another good idea would be to use rivatuner to limit fps to at or slightly above your frame rate to limit excess gpu usage.

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That's the one!

 

great tip guys, thanks! Will make a custom fan curve
for me the difference between 90 and 100 Hz is pretty unnoticeable , so I think I'll keep it at 90Hz for now,

really enjoying the laptop so far, Its kinda funny the gt83 biggest problem when watching reviews on youtube is the 60hz panel, yet all big reviewers miss the fact that you can get up to 120 Hz with these panels applying a simple overclock.

 

That's good to hear, and you won't hear a lot of reviewers go over overclock a lot because it's generally not something consistent to every machine in a group.

Also in some parts of the world if you tell someone how to do something it could come back on you.

I forgot to mention that the Riva tuner is installed along side MSI afterburner and will be in your system tray in the bottom right corner (assuming you use standard)

I have mine limited to 96fps and it keeps my fans from going crazy. They don't even come on during indie games except to cool the cpu. Lol

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Don't you experience tearing with your set up since the fps goes higher than your refresh rate here or do you use some form of vsync in addition to that to balance it out? I've always limited the fps to my exact refresh rate with riva tuner/rtts. Am I doing it wrong?

 

whoops double post

 

If it's one fps higher it won't tear much if it does.

As for vsync I generally do yeah. Either built into the game or through G-sync on the external monitor.

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Besides Vsync, you can reduce image quality settings for the game if you prefer to obtain higher fps during most of gameplay.

 

Hi

I have a gt83vr 6rf with the 6820hk what over clock can be done via the bios? can you change any power levels or cpu core.

Using the msi dragon centre its stable at 4.0 when i try 4.1 i have had the occasional freeze this is not down to temps. i would like to get fully stable 4.1 or possible 4.2 if possible. i think that the cpu is holding back the 2 x gtx1080 cards.

anyone done an overclock not in the dragon center and if so how was this done

any help would be great

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When you are uping the refresh rates of your screens are you doing this via the nvidia control panel i have used this with not much sucess

 

hey hey. I recommend using riva tuner(comes with msi afterburner, riva tuner automatically launches when you launch afterburner) to check out your CPU usage in the graphs right after gaming to see if it is holding back your gpus or not. What are you currently using the laptop for? Gaming? Video editing/rendering?

I tried to goto 4.1-4.3 on my 6RE but it bluescreened right away. I'm assuming it needs more voltage to hit those numbers and i'm not sure if this is adjustable in the BIOS or if the MS-1815 motherboard can handle the increased voltage to be used as a daily driver. Hopefully someone else who has experience with the i7-6820hk gtvr83 can chime in with details about this. I typically only use dragon center or XTU for overclocking, haven't done it through the bios. @hmscott @Falkentyne Do either of you have experience with OCing the i7-6820hk on the msi gt83vr to 4.1-4.3 ghz? If so, please drop some knowledge bombs.

As far as overclocking the monitor, I do it through Nvidia Control Panel. From what I've read on these forums, the samsung IPS 18.4" monitors on the gt83vr models usually overclock between 90hz-100hz, with one user reporting an OC of 120hz.

To OC your monitor, go into Nvidia control panel. First, Make sure Dynamic Super Resolution is turned off. You can do this by going into "Manage 3D Settings" and making sure DSR factors are unchecked. Hit apply.

Next, go into "change resolution" and select the native resolution(1920x1080p) and click "customize". A dialogue box will pop up, click "create custom resolution". Start off by adjusting the refresh rate(hz) by an additional 5. Click test. Your monitor will flicker on/off for a second to test the resolution. If it is successful, it will tell you and ask if you want to apply it. Click apply. If it fails, your screen will hang and you'll have to restart your computer. Now boot up a game to see if you are getting any graphics glitches or artifacts. As long as you get neither, consider this a "stable OC". Repeat this entire process increasing the refresh rate(hz) by 5 or 10 until you do find a failing point. Once you find a failing point, You'll know you've gone too far and you'll know the last edit before your failing point is your maximum stable OC of the monitor. Remember, these monitors typically OC between 90-100hz so aim for that. You can try for 120hz but it's unlikely to be stable even if it does pass the NCP test. Right now i'm stable at 100hz and the difference is very noticeable when gaming(I play Wow, Crysis 3, CS:GO and things are buttery smooth).

Lastly, if you are using GeForce Experience, make sure when you optimize your games that you are using 1920x1080p resolution. Some games will automatically be set at some form of DSR. If you launch a game with DSR through GeForce Experience, It's going to go back down to 60hz and you'll have to disable DSR/re-enable your custom resolution.

Let us know how your progress goes and keep us updated with the results. Hope this helps.

 

Does anyone here have experience overclocking the GPUs in these models? I can't seem to adjust the voltage at all in MSI Afterburner(it's greyed out).

 

Not possible at all, not even with vbios mods and SPI tools. Requires soldering resistors (e.g. the same way you take a desktop card to 1.2v+) and may not even be possible on a MXM card due to clearance issues.

 

I did not uncheck the DSR factors i wonder if this was why i had not had much luck? i will give it a try

I have been able to get it fully stable at 4.2ghz with a volt of 1.25 while keeping temps down. Just used intel overclocking software and did a voltage increase. i could aim for higher but looking at what volts people have been using i dont think its worth an extra 100hz for the temp change it would make.

I cant find any info on the bios changes required but it does list multiplier changes and voltage changes. its nothing like what i have used before so decided to leave it alone. After testing some more i will look to see if i can reduce the core volts.[/QUOTE]

 

The asus strix software will let you increase voltage. give that a try.

 

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Yeah, If DSR factors are enabled the customize button is greyed out. In regards to keeping temps low, I recommend re-pasting your CPU with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut liquid metal. It's different from standard thermal paste and it dropped my temps by 20c during full load while OCed to 4.0. If you do decide to go for liquid metal, make sure you watch a few videos on how to do it because you have to take certain precautions when applying the lm. As far as undervolting goes, -.25 to -.30 is fairly stable when oced to 4.0ghz. Anything higher and I was crashing. Not sure for 4.2 ghz though.

I'll have to try going up to 4.2 later today.

 

Yeah, If DSR factors are enabled the customize button is greyed out. In regards to keeping temps low, I recommend re-pasting your CPU with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut liquid metal. It's different from standard thermal paste and it dropped my temps by 20c during full load while OCed to 4.0. If you do decide to go for liquid metal, make sure you watch a few videos on how to do it because you have to take certain precautions when applying the lm. As far as undervolting goes, -.25 to -.30 is fairly stable when oced to 4.0ghz. Anything higher and I was crashing. Not sure for 4.2 ghz though.

I'll have to try going up to 4.2 later today.[/QUOTE]

I have been using the nvidia custom setting and thought it had worked at 100 it past the nvidia test and the frame skipper test the first game i tried was far cry 5 and it worked great but when i went into world of tanks i got a very shaky display of 4 images that i had to reset to get rid off.

I tried at a lower fps i think 75 and had the same issue so gave up. This made me wonder if people had been using other software than the nvidia custom setting

 

I have been using the nvidia custom setting and thought it had worked at 100 it past the nvidia test and the frame skipper test the first game i tried was far cry 5 and it worked great but when i went into world of tanks i got a very shaky display of 4 images that i had to reset to get rid off.

I tried at a lower fps i think 75 and had the same issue so gave up. This made me wonder if people had been using other software than the nvidia custom setting[/QUOTE]

Ahhh I understand. Sorry it didn't work out in your favor mate. Maybe keep the 100hz custom resolution saved that way you can use it for games it meshes well with?

 

Can someone explain to me how to remove the optical bay? I couldn't find a tutorial on youtube/google and I want to swap out the blu-ray for another drive.

 

Here it is.
https://www.laptopmain.com/msi-gt83vr-titan-disassembly-and-ram-hdd-ssd-upgrade-guide/

 

Saw this one on google but it doesn't explain how to remove it ;/. i want to either drop in another drive or get the 9.5mm dual fans for added cooling.

 

There's a screw (3rd pic) on the bottom which needs to be removed in order for the ODD to be pulled out.
That's an enclosed space for ODD so you can do HDD install.

 

Thank you!

 

Hey I know it's not wholly on topic but does anyone know of a good DAC I can use to mix audio?

I got a headset that can mix multiple audio inputs but it wants a receiver to take from my home theater set up.

Plus being able to run the TOSlink would be good.

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btw since my last post I have set my gt83 screen to 100Hz, working fine with no issues. Had to match my X34 predator monitor

Just to make sure, is it possible to OC the 7920HQ CPU? I don't see a CPU OC option under dragon center, just GPU.

 

Always good to find someone else with the same set up.

I just picked up a set of logitech g933 and I'm trying to figure out a good way to wire them from my HDMI matrix for my consoles into them.

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nice good luck with the logitech post some pics when u'r done

 

Thanks and I'm planning too.
I'm trying to find something that can do a toslink to coaxial RCA.

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If anyone has a lead for a *used, in good shape* 2018 gt83 I7-8850h 1080 sli around the 2.5k-3k range, please let me know. I wouldn't mind upgrading from my gt83vr-6re to the 6 core processor .

 

Why are you interested in a MSI upgrade?
Why not wait for the 8 core CPU's and get a Clevo with a 9700K?

Even a Clevo P870 TM1 with an i7 8086K CPU + gtx 1080 will beat the pants off of that MSI that you want to upgrade to. Because the 8086k is binned for 5 ghz on all cores.
If you absolutely HAVE to upgrade now I'd go that route (Buy from HIDevolution for a Prema bios).

Otherwise, wait for 8 core.

 

I don't want a clevo, at all. I absolutely love the gt83 model. It's very sturdy, has the best cooling on the market for an SLI laptop and looks badass. I'm a huge fan of the keyboard and the placement of it. I can't game efficiently on a regularly placed laptop keyboard or i'll get wrist pains. I also hate chicklet style keyboard keys, mechanical or not. I also love the fact that I can slide the hood off the gt83. While a clevo might perform better because it has a desktop processor/gpu in it, I don't need the best performance. I'd go with a full out desktop before I ever considered a clevo. I just don't like the product, at all. I use the gt83 as a full desktop replacement that I will sometimes travel with. I don't see a reason to buy a clevo that runs hotter than a desktop with identical parts. I had the chance to buy a 1080 sli clevo for under 2.5k, I passed on it because they look generic. If i'm paying over 2k for technology that is being used for personal entertainment, It needs to look awesome too. I like flashy stuff.

A clevo might be a good quality product, it's just not for me.

At this point, I don't need to upgrade at all, the i7-6820hk suits my needs and allows me to take full advantage of my 1070s when SLI is applicable. There is only one game that I cannot get a full 100 fps(that's what the gt83 monitor is overclocked to) out of when on max settings, starwars battlefront 2 and that's because their SLI scaling is pretty nonexistent. The 6 core processor is more of a want since it would allow me to play any game on max settings while streaming on twitch at a good frame rate without me having to have my fans at 5k rpm.

Lastly, the 8086 is a marketing gimmick.

EDIT:Just realized I sounded like a total dick with my reply, my bad.

 

anyone had any joy finding a thunderbolt 3 monitor splitter that works. i have tried a startech one thunderbolt to 2 x display port that would not work. it works on either port but not on 2. I have a feeling that msi have limited the port so no matter what i try it will never work.

 

I haven't tried one yet. I'm waiting for a mdp Y splitter to come in the mail(same brand as yours). Have you made sure your thunderbolt 3 firmware is up to date?

 

Decided to tinker around in XTU this morning. Looks like I will be riding this as long as temps are below the benchmark in games....
4.17ghz stable w/ .020 overvolt. If anyone knows how to make that a solid 4.2ghz instead of 4.17ghz, that'd be great . Tried for 4.3ghz but kept BSODING ><

 

Most likely you need to unlock your Bios and set spread spectrum to 0% rather than 0.50% in the Intel ICC section, to make your BCLK 100.0 mhz rather than 99.750 mhz.
In a locked Bios, you can try increasing the BCLK to something like 10025 rather than the default 10000 (im assuming this means 100.25% vs 100.00%).
4.3 ghz on a 6820HK with 3 phase VRM's simply isn't happening. You would probably need something like a +150 to +200mv offset for that to even have a chance. And even if you can get into windows, you may need to look in event viewer for WHEA correctable errors after doing a load/stress test. Just because you didn't BSOD doesn't mean you are stable.

 

Hmmm, I'll have to read up on unlocking the bios. Not sure I want to go that route. What are all the benefits of an unlocked bios? Is it safe to do?

As far as 4.3 ghz goes, I don't think it can handle it when it comes to temps under full load. 4.2 ghz was cutting it close temperature wise during benchmarks.

I've learned over time that even if you pass a stress test, benchmarks and don't BSOD, it still may not be stable. Only way to know for sure after running those tests is to put it through the gauntlet with daily regular usage. Working on figuring that out right now

 

With more tinkering, I was able to get a benchmark to complete @4.3ghz. 1 for 3. Definitely not stable by any means but it completed.

 

Totally about to uninstall dragon center now. I think I see where HMScott was coming from when he said I should uninstall it. I don't like how the computer doesn't boot with the settings initially with dragon center, it has to wait till dragon center loads to change the clock speeds. I think i might just go with an xtu profile loaded at boot instead. Less processes at boot, faster completed boot time and now that I think of it, dragon center doesn't really do anything extra that I need it to do.

 

It's a matter of streamlining, and only running 1 monitoring tool - like hwinfo64, one CPU tuning tool like XTU or TS, one GPU tuning tool like MSI Afterburner (for OC/undervolt) + RTSS (frame limiter to display refresh rate).

DGC gets in the way of those as it's got it's own OC / monitoring running - but not as powerful as the individual tools.

XTU also has a monitoring element which you can pare down (disable data being monitored) or exit the XTU monitoring app (from systray app + disable in services) after booting.

TS has benefits, but can add complications. I'd recommend XTU for initial undervolt tuning.

Then if you don't mind complicating things you can try TS split cache / core undervolt trick to see if you can get a small benefit - the CPU doesn't really allow split undervolt.

TS tweaks registers that can give some benefit when cache is set to stable undervolt and core is set to additional -100mV more (confusing, but apparently works).

Undervolt GPU in MSI Afterburner, that can increase clocks and reduce temps and power draw, so that's another fun one for you to try.

 

Right now now i'm stable at 4.2ghz on the cpu. In terms of GPU overclocking, i've tried anywhere from +144 to +240 for the core clock. Somewheres between +210 to +216 seems to be the sweet spot to keep the 1070s hovering around 2k when gpu boost is kicked in, anything higher and I crash.

You have me curious on voltage. Initially I tried 4.2 through dragon center and that's when my system started lagging/locking/freezing up. This is what made me overvolt for the 4.2 overclock. I wonder if dragon center was the problem there and that I didn't need the overvolt. Every now and then when I switch between eco, comfort, sport and turbo settings I get that constant lagging, locking up where everything has a delay. I googled what could cause this and after reading several articles, It came down to either ram or core voltage(since I was overclocked). Not sure whether to overvolt or undervolt when @ 4.2ghz because of this.

In terms of monitoring tools, I mainly use MSI Afterburner these days(while dragon center is up-That will change though as i'm going to uninstall dc) since it shows me a graph of cpu/gpu usage/temps/fps/frame time/core clocks etc etc. I used to use HWinfo for steady monitoring but in a way it only tells a short story(less details than viewing a timeline from a graph). A max temp of 90c on HWinfo might make you proceed with caution at first but knowing when your hardware hit that temperature ended up providing me with better insight-IE if the max temp was only when loading a program then things are fine but if those max temps are steady while playing when revealed from a graph then there is more to be concerned about). I think HWinfo has it's uses for when you need to dig deep IE like that time when we were able to figure out that my core temps were extremely uneven which meant i needed a repaste badly. I think I will go with a saved XTU profile and MSI after burner for monitoring as long as things remain stable. So far i've had issues with starwars battlefront 2 and mass effect: andromeda crashing while oced @ 4.2ghz(both of those games are terribly optimized though), everything else has been fine otherwise.

Heads up to anyone- When overclocking your CPU, keep your core cache 1 notch BELOW your all core clock setting or you'll BOSD with a watchdog error. Not equal to, but 1 notch less than in case of fluctuation to avoid the BSOD.

 

Overclocking the Pascal GPU alone doesn't work as well as undervolting too, here's a video that might help, @B0B 's on NBR, maybe he can answer any questions you have:


Heading out, have fun.

 

All voltage settings are hard locked in MSI Afterburner. The only things I can adjust are the core clock and memory clock. Thank you for the heads up, i'll try to connect with Bob.

 

So i noticed that after uninstalling dragon center that even after I save my xtu profile that my laptop only boots up @ 3.6 ghz(full turbo stock clock). I have to manually open XTU if I want to go back up to 4.2 ghz. Any way to fix this? I also tried going into the bios and enabling overclocking. Once enabled, I wasn't able to adjust the clocks ;/. Not sure if i'm doing something wrong or if something is wrong with my machine. ;/

EDIT: Actually, i'm mistaken. There is one thing I need dragon center for........custom fan curve >><<

 

If you not want use dragon center at all, you have an alternative that is “Msi Silent Option”

 

i have had no joy updating the firmware for the thunderbolt. and the drivers on the msi site are older than the ones i am using.

have you updated firmware and if so how? let me know how you get on with the splitter. what spec is is

 

Power Overwhelming....Mwahahahahaha

Fortunately, I haven't had to update the firmware yet. I installed the drivers from the MSI site and my external monitor is working via thunderbolt 3 connection. If/when you do try to upgrade the firmware for TB3, make sure you enable the option in the bios(I noticed this option a while back). Also, I'd recommend contacting MSI over the phone. Sounds like new devices are coming out that require newer controllers that MSI isn't aware about(such as the startech tb3 splitter). You might want to try contacting startech to find out the requirements so that you can pass that information onto MSI to help speed up the process.

 

HMmm, so apparently to figure out which driver you have installed, the user is supposed to right click on the software, settings, details. This is what I am shown when I do that. It does not show my thunderbolt 3 powered monitor(packed pixels 2) when connected. This could be because it doesn't have it's own thunderbolt 3 port and I use an adapter from the monitor manufacturer to be able to connect it via one cable and that it's not a real thunderbolt 3 device. I logged into the MSI website and made a post in the technical assistance forum, I recommend you do the same.

 

I noticed the notice in XTU, you might want to update to the newer version as XTU adds support for new CPU's and new features for new CPU's incrementally over time.

Also make sure you have the installer for the version you are currently running before installing the new version, the new version might have added bugs as well as features.

Did you try setting the Power Timeout Window to the full 28 seconds? Which CPU do you have?

 

Every time I click install, a dialogue pops up that i'm supposed to click "ok" on to give permission but it disappears really fast before anyone can click it and XTU shuts down.

What is the power timeout window? I have an i7-6820hk

I figured out that I have to click "save" for my settings in order for them to load on boot.