***The Official MSI GT83VR Titan SLI Owner's Lounge (NVIDIA GTX-1080's)***

Yes, now their prices are very expensive but this kind of hardware is positioning MSI as a top hardware manufacturer, much better than Alienware or Asus. Maybe, when the prices goes down we could see in this form factor 2xRTX 2080 ‘MaxQ’ with an i9 and a liquid cooling system for all... to dream is free

Amazing laptop, amazing MSI’s Job.

 

Yea. The big problem is SLI or mGPU isn't getting much if any support in dx12 from what I can find. So I would think it better for them to give us a full fat GPU And cpu.

I'm in the fence about the i9 series. On one hand it was a good step between consumer x700k and the workstation chips. And then they neutered the x700 parts to sell us these new 1k chips.

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Maybe SLI or nvlink will have a good return in the next gen cards, one can dream

 

Ryzeki, NuclearLizard, new score with your help:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/18247659

25.466 Total Fire Strike Score
44.731 GPU Fire Strike Score
'better than 99% results'

The GT83VR it's a monster laptop machine!

 

Hi all, I have found an MSI Titan-016 on sale for $2399. Very reputable site where I have shopped for over 10 years.

• Dual GeForce GTX 1070 SLI 16 GB GDDR5 (8 GB each)

• Intel Core i7 8th Gen 8850H (2.60 GHz)

• 32 GB Memory 1 TB HDD 512 GB SSD

• 18.4" 1920 x 1080 WideView IPS-Level Non Reflection

• 17.12" x 13.34" x 1.65"-2.71" 12.13 lbs.

• BD Burner (9.5 mm)

• 1 x Thunderbolt 3, 1 x Mini DisplayPort 1 x HDMI (4K @ 60Hz)

• 3 x USB 3.1 Gen 1, 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2

The nearest price anywhere else is $3400.

I looked at building an Alienware Area 51m. It would gain a 9700k cpu and a single 2070 but go down to 17.3" for about $300 more.

It I purchase the MSI, i would eventually max out the ram to 64GB and swap out the smaller M.2's for 2 WD black 1TBs.

thoughts....

Brad Hall
Alienware M18xR2

repost to the best board....

 

Unless you will be using external screen that is not 1080p@60Hz it is not really worth it. Single 1070 is more than enough for 1080p content. And SLI scaling is atrocious.

 

I was thinking of setting up a 4k monitor and mouse /keyboard setup through thunderbolt adapter for when I'm at home .

Are 2 1070's even as good as a single 1080??

 

It really depends on the situation, if SLI is supported well then yes. But most games don't now a days. Very few games that I know of support mGPU or the like.

IMO as a fan of the GT83 I might push you more towards the Alienware because of the offering of a desktop cpu and current (and possibly future) GPU's.

Though I would be wary about them. As they have been a bit shady since dell took over them.

I run more or less a similar config except my stuff runs through the USB hub of my monitor.

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Hello there!
2 gtx mobile non-max-q 1070s in sli in a laptop > 1 desktop rtx 2070(as long as SLI is supported, even on single GPU mode i get at least 100 FPS in 1080p on the most demanding games on max settings). Only thing you don't get is ray tracing(it's overly glorified ambient occlusion/reflections-we literally already had these features). Go for the gt83, it's awesome.

I would avoid the alienware laptop. 9900k runs hot as is and in a laptop it is going to be worse. Also, The alienware 51m or m51(whatever it is called) is supposed to be a desktop replacement but it's pretty half assed. They gimped the ram badly(it ships with 2666mhz, you can only run it at 2400mhz because of the bios. They claim they will make it support higher speeds in the future with a bios update, however, none of this information is included with the purchase or at check out so alienware cannot be legally forced to hold this promise. I also have no doubt that the IMC is crap in that laptop given they are gimping the processor too). The only thing that is desktop about it is the processor/gpu yet because of the laptop's design, you can't even get full power like you could if it was in a real desktop(even if it is OCed, you aren't getting any close to the amount of power if the chip was in a desktop). You will never get desktop levels of power out of it. It's nothing but a tease. It will always leave you feeling like you were conned). It's pretty much a laptop with a desktop chip that can't run like a real desktop ship yet it has laptop ram speeds. The "upgrade path" is not guaranteed as alienware has no idea if it will support the next gen of gpus or even the next gen of cpus since they have no idea what the power/architecture requirements are, don't be fooled. Its just a bad buy imo. Get the GT83vr. You can power three external 4k monitors from it(just no daisy chaining, must plug them into each port in the laptop). If you choose to just use the laptop display itself, they are overclockable to 100hz(one user claimed 120hz but he never posted proof so I think it's BS). Also, The GT83 has better storage potential. You can fit up to 5 drives if you swap the blueray burner with a sata3 caddy, you'll be able to max out at around 8-10tb storage split between all the drives. If you keep the blueray burner, you have space for 4 drives.

If I were to place a dollar amount on what I think the new alienware laptop is actually worth, I'd say about 2,600 USD at the most(it's insanely overpriced. If it ran exactly like a desktop it'd be worth 4k). If by chance you need a stronger processor than what is in the gt83(8850h), maybe check out the gt73(or is it gt75) with the 8950hk. The processor is crazy good(2 x an extreme oced 6820hk when the 8950hk is extreme oced) and it runs cooler than the 9900k without using as much power. The bios in those models are great too.

Also, 4k isn't worth it if you are gaming unless you plan on going 4k with a 120hz external 4k monitor(be prepared to spend $$$). If 4k @ 60hz is fine, just use nvidia DSR, it's free.

Either go for the gt83(it's badass) or a gt73/75 with an 8950hk.

 

By the by actually, does anyone have any recommendations for a TB3 dock? I have been looking around and I have spotted a few but they push a charge down the cable. Will that harm my computer or does it only push if there is a request from the machine for power?


Well with the info dump from @gt83vrhelp I would have to switch my recommendation to try to get the Titan 73/75.
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Scaling is generally much higher at 4K where the raw throughput of the GPU/s is more likely the bottleneck. But SLI is certainly on a downwards spiral

Yes they only charge through compatible charge ports

Those of us who own the big Clevo units are sitting back eye rolling at the gaga response to the 51m... Oh really noone thought of putting a desktop socket in a laptop til now did they, and calling it cpu upgradeable is a bit of a stretch given it would seem socket 1151 has got its last generation of parts with "9th gen", unless the rumours of a (even hotter hungrier) 10 core do happen and Intel rehash 14nm++ for a 4th time. And you're stuck in the Dell trap of relying on Dell to make the next gen part in the same proprietary DGFF form factor. I'd label it user-configurable and user-repairable... upgradeable remains to be seen.

I'll have to disagree with you on DSR vs 4k. There's nothing you can do to a 1080p image that gets close to the sharp presentation of native 4k, assuming a quality settings drop isn't required to maintain fps (which 1070sli or 1080sli shouldn't need to do in a game with decent scaling outside of wasteful 'extreme' or 'ultra' settings in some games where you still struggle to see any difference even in a side-by-side comparison)

 

SLI scales anywhere between 10% and 90% depending how optimized the game is. Also, I repeat, the displays on the gt83 series are overclockable to 100hz. Ignore the negative public reviews about the gt83, there is a proxy war vs china right now and clevo resellers also went on a full out hate campaign on msi on every public outlet in an effort to takeover the market(those clevos are the ugliest things i've ever seen).

 

Lol wtf are you going on about with a "reseller hate campaign"? I've seen no such thing, can you name or link to what you're referring.

Most Clevo resellers also sell the MSI GT series laptops. Clevo are an obscure brand that many Clevo owners haven't even heard of and don't recognise they own, because most resellers specifically don't use Clevo as their branding on the laptop, and certainly as competitors don't collaborate together to "push" Clevo. MSI are a way bigger brand as they have all kinds of desktop parts and peripherals as well as laptops. Reseller businesses bagging products they stock and sell doesn't make any sense at all.

As for "proxy war vs China" both Clevo and MSI have their HQ in Taiwan...?

Pretty much the same criticisms have applied to the GT83 that they have for previous GT80/GT80S models, panel choices are limited for 18.4", 1080p is wasted on SLI 1070s or 1080s in current titles, the cpu is a weaker BGA, and the EC firmware limits it when it comes to heavy overclocks. That's all I've seen "publicly" said about the GT83. Probably some don't like the red dragon flame stuff too.

I happen to agree and I valued those aspects enough to not choose a GT83, but that doesn't mean yours or anybody else's choice is wrong or stupid, you're free to think the Clevos are ugly or have big bezels or have rubbish keyboards or poor heatsink QC or whatever else is said about them and come to your own decision based on your own criteria.

We all own big heavy clunky powerful laptops that 99% of desktop owners think are completely stupid, pointless, overpriced and ridiculous anyway, but I bought my laptop for me to use with my money to satisfy my needs so tbh the world can ggf with its opinions

 

Hi, I’m thinking to buy new laptop, i can sell you mine: GT83VR 7RF Titan for 2.500€. Write me a private message and we could speak about that.
2xGTX 1080, 64GB RAM and if you see this thread, 44K in Graphics Score with 3DMARK: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/18247659

About SLI scale is as other members said, it performs great when the game or the benchmark are ‘SLI compatible’. For example, most of DirectX12 games only use one GPU.

 

Hey all,

So back in the day I had some problems with my RAID0 configuration in my GT83VR (which sux in my opinion) so I switched to single 1gb TB samsung evo 970 which runs great. The problem is that I lost my recovery image with factory settings/drivers and I figure out that you guys might help with that.

Generally I feel like I have bad drivers, even tho I'm always getting them from MSi website. Temps on both GPU and CPU doesn't seem right. Can't really play witheout v-sync in games cause as soon as FPS goes above 100 , they are going up to 99C' while vents are running crazy fast and the laptop isn't even warm. There are couple more small issues like SLi not working properly, stuttering, games not scaling to laptops resolution. I just remember that when my sys ran on MSi's image, everything worked just fine.

So my question, is there any chance one of you GT83VR 7RF owners could upload copy of recovery image somewhere so I can get back the laptop I paid for?

P.S
I really don't want to send my laptop to msi service. Done that once, never again.

 

You may wish to cross post to the MSI forums if you haven't already. These ones are kinda dead.

I still haunt the forum but I have a 6rf and I don't use the factory image. I set it up the way I like and left at that.

Also see if you can check the page for them, I think there was something like that to make a recovery partition.

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I have a similar problem with the latest Windows update (creators update make changes on partitions) but I can fix it using this solution:

https://www.msi.com/faq/notebook-2587

You have to download the burnrecovery.zip, unzip it on a USB stick (or drive) and boot from that ‘image’. So you will restore the system with the ‘original’ MSI’s image.

If you have a problem or something with the MSI’s image, you can download the latest iso from Windows update directly (in your language, i’ve Redirected to the Spanish one):

https://www.microsoft.com/es-es/software-download/windows10ISO

The best way to fix this is download the MSI’s image (burnrecovery.zip), restore the system booting from that image and then to update Windows to the latest version using the Windows update iso Manager https://www.microsoft.com/es-es/software-download/windows10ISO

If you have any problem i’ll be here and if I can help, i’ll try to help you.

Sorry for my English...

Good luck!

 

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Alright then, so the that file burnrecovery.zip contains some kind of MSI config that will restore factory settings of my laptop I understand?
I mean, my laptop originaly had Raid0 config which was failing constantly if I powered down my laptop not in the correct way. It completly broke down when windows updates didnt want to install (stuck on 'configuring your system' for about 25hrs) so all partitions were lost basicly cause I couldn't even start my sys). Thats why i switched to single and better drive. I just downloaded win10 iso and got a new system and got all the drivers from MSi website which, like I said doesn't seem to work properly, even that i installed them in correct way.

Sorry to say but I won't have time to actually try to do this now since I'm going on holidays soon. I'll try to let you know guys when I'll be back and will actually try this.

Thank you very much for your help!

Edit: @NuclearLizzard Just to let you know, the guys from MSi actually told me to post topic on here

 

Yes, the msirecovery tool is made for restore to factory settings. I don’t know if could fix the raid but maybe it’ll be fine to install again the raid and then run the msirecovery tool.

For me it was great to restore my GT83VR 7RF (for different problems... after Windows fall creators update but restoring the system without a clear image with it).

Try that, i’ll be in the thread if you need something.

 

Good evening to everyone,
I am an Alienware's owner (13R3 OLED) and... I won yesterday an auction to get this............. dream.

It is the configuration I got:

• 18.4" FULL HD IPS Anti Glare
• Core i7-6920HQ processor
• 32 GB DDR4 RAM (16 GB × 2)
• 1 TB 7200 RPM HD
• 1 TB (2 × 512 GB) NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD in RAID configuration
• GeForce GTX 1080 with 8 GB GDDR5X in SLI configuration (2 × 8 GB GTX 1080 Cards)
• 16 GB TOTAL DEDICATED GRAPHICS
• FULL HD Webcam
• Bluetooth
• Blu-Ray Writer
• FULL size Mechanical backlit keyboard
• Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
• Package Contents:
• 2 x AC Power Adapters (19.5v @ 16.9a 330watt each, 660watt TOTAL)
• 2 x Power Cables
• 1 x AC Power Adapter Bridge
• 1 x Velcro Strap for AC Adapters (Connect both with the strap)

Now... I didn't pay yet as I have some doubt about after I read the last posts on that thread, just found.

The laptop is not new but it is with just a few of cosmetic stuff... and it is at 1700 dollars.

Did you think watching and looking now to RTX and the generation we have here it is a good deal? I wondering also... there is any way to change the display for a better one 4K or with higher nits?


Cheers

 

Hi,
i'll try to give you my experience with my GT83VR.

I reach this score with the GT83VR: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18247659

More than 44K of GPU Score... so the GPU score with a desktop 2080Ti RTX is 36K...

In syntethic benchmark terms my "Laptop" (but powered and clocked as the desktop ones) 2x1080 GTX achieve better results with a very little OC and more or less the same score as a single 2080Ti...

BUT by far, in games, @4K resolution my SLI 1080 GTX can't beat a rock solid 4K 60 FPS experience as you can get with a single 2080Ti... The new RTX has made for 4K and 60FPS without the waste of power that i need with 2 1080GTX and with an architecture made for reach rock solid 60FPS @4K.

With all maxed out and @4K i can get an average of 55FPS but for sure, a 2080ti could get more than 60FPS "in a sustained manner".

The Raytracing and other "Add-Ons" with RTX are no important for me (in my case), i'm interested in the way those GPUs can manage 60FPS in 4K against other solutions.

The Processor and memory speed are important things to avoid the bottleneck and with SLI is even more important.

So, if you want a true 60FPS all maxed out @4K Experience, the best way to get it is a single 2080Ti RTX and i wouldn't use a SLI Laptop (now i'm doing it because when i buy it, the 2080s doesn't exists).

Even, knowing that a single laptop's 2080 RTX (Non TI) would be less powerfull than a SLI made with 2 GTX 1080, i think that the best investment is to use a single card. The SLI is great, but in DX11... it hasn't any support with DX12 and not all the videogames are optimized for SLI...

So maybe, i go for the "best one card configuration" possible... a single 2080 RTX (and in desktop, of course, the 2080TI)...

Sorry for my english

 

Pulled the trigger on MSI GT83-014. It has 2 256GB in MSI super raid I believe. Will it be possible and straightforward to install 2 newer 500Gb or 1TB nvme drives and put them in Super Raid as well?

 

It has 2 256GB in MSI Super Raid, I think that you can install 2 500GB M2.

 

Newegg has the GT83 Titan-014 on clearance for $2999 with an additonal $100 rebate!!!
The next lowest price for this beast is $4299 w/no rebate. Most places still list for $5299.

Mine will be delivered Friday by 8pm if all goes well. Plan is to watch for 1TB (maybe even 2TB) Samsung or WD black nvme drives to hit a great sale price.
Also want to see what brand Ram is inside. Starts with 2x16GB 2666 DDR4. If there is a great sale on similar ram I may just max it out. No rush.

I currently have a mint condition Alienware M18x R2 with dual 680m's and 32 GB of ram and 2x 500GB Samsung 850 evo's in raid 0 plus a 1TB HDD. Time for an upgrade

Specs:

• Dual GeForce GTX 1080 SLI 16 GB GDDR5X (8 GB each)

• Intel Core i7 8th Gen 8850H (2.60 GHz)

• 32 GB Memory 1 TB HDD

• 512 GB SSD (2x256 nvme in raid 0)

• 18.4" 1920 x 1080 WideView IPS-Level Non Reflection

• 17.12" x 13.34" x 1.65"-2.71" 12.13 lbs.

• BD Burner (9.5 mm)

• 1 x Thunderbolt 3, 1 x Mini DisplayPort 1 x HDMI (4K @ 60Hz)

• 3 x USB 3.1 Gen 1, 2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2

• M18X R2 3840qm - 680SLI - 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 1866 - 2 X Samsung SSD's Raid 0 + HGST 1TB HDD - Bluray reader/DVD burner - Killer wireless - Win 8.1 - Intel BT 4.0

 

Nice.

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Congratulations!

Installing/upgrading NVMe drives is fairly simple. If you have your OS on the current nvme raid 0 array, you'll have to create a bootable windows installation media + back up anything onto a usb/cd. After that, all you'll have to do is swap the old drives out and put the new drives in, go into bios and create a new raid 0 array via intel rapid storage technology in the bios. Use 128k strip size(Msi's recommended strip size for nvme raid 0 arrays). Once the new array is created, Change boot mode from AHCI to Raid then and boot through the windows installation media that you created earlier. Proceed to install windows.

Prior to this process be sure to store any recovery images on the 7200 rpm hdd or a larger usb or burned cd and reload them after the new array + new windows installation is complete.

If your laptop wasn't already configured with super raid 4(there are 1 or 2 base configs available that aren't but it can be added manually) , you'll have to install the intel rapid storage technology driver prior to physically installing the new nvme drives. You'll also want to have the IRST driver on the usb/cd also incase you need it during the windows install. Once IRST is installed, You'll have to switch boot mode in the bios from ACHI to Raid or any raid arrays created in the bios won't be recognized.

In general, I like to keep a windows iso, official model related msi drivers/applications and any extra system related software on a usb. I recommend you do the same.


In general, a *cold boot* for a laptop takes longer than a cold boot for a desktop as the liquid in the laptop's heatpipes has to warm up + raid driver loading time. It is suspected that windows 10 updates have played a role into this as well.

In regards to physical installation, It is very easy. There are 2 screws on the bottom of the laptop that need to be removed in order to freely remove the hood of the laptop. I recommend using .5mm thermal pads with a 2mm heatspreader for any m.2 drives for laptops. The air circulation in these laptops where the drives are located is better than just about every other laptop out there but since space/air flow is still tighter than a desktop, the thermal pads/heatspreaders will help balance that out.

When your model comes in, Would you mind posting photos of what your bios options look like? I'd be interested to see what types of changes they've made.

Cheers.

 

After initial setup, installed crystal diskmark and got great scores. Figured out it has 2 Samsung pm981 nvme's.

 

I will get pictures of bios up soon. Making recovery USB.
What a beautiful machine!! This even dwarfs my Alienware M18xR2.

 

I would love to see some pictures too....

 

Good news gt83 owners!
I made a great discovery today when trying to push my ram even further. Increasing your ring voltage and ring amps higher than you would normally need to with a lower frequency ram will allow for stability for higher frequency ram overclocks.

These settings work specifically for a 2400mhz cl14 hyperx impact kit so-dimm 2x8gb kit overclocked to 3000mhz @ cl15. Passes aida64 yay. I'll try adding in my second kit tomorrow and see if the IMC will tolerate 2 seperate 8gb kits @ 3000mhz.

For reference,The cl14 2400mhz hyperx impact 2x8gb kits can already manually overclock to 2800mhz @ the same xmp timings without any additional ring voltage/system agent voltage.

Things to adjust @ 4.2ghz core/cache OC on the i7-6820hk model when trying to OC ram to 3000mhz.

First set up the overclock

Make sure you are using IA/DC LL 1 on both the core and ring voltage rails
Make sure you have increased the current of both the core and ring voltage rails, I go to 255amps for each(1022 in bios)
Make sure you choose 50 for imon slope for both the core and ring voltage rails
Dial in 4.2ghz on both the core and the ring
Set extra turbo voltage up from 1200 to 1250 on both core and ring.(Normally 1200 is stable for 4.2 but I had a hunch that I should up it for the ram OC. i'm going to test to see if I can bring that number down closer to 1225 but I dialed in 1250 and it was stable right away).
+200 system agent offset(going to see if I can bring this number down as well)
Disable all C-states + CFG Lock Bit
Enable Speedshift
Boot performance mode - turbo

Pmic VCC IO was left disabled(which is auto I assume. I don't even know if this is actual Vccio for the memory controller as Pmic isn't the same as IMC).
Pmic VDDQ Level was left disabled(which is auto I assume, same as above).

Boot up, then restart and go back into the bios

Set your XMP profile

Boot up, , then restart and go back into the bios

Disable Fast boot in the system agent memory config(fast MRC fass through).
Make sure any other fast boot functions are turned off as well(pretty sure they do by default when you oc the cpu but turn them off just in case)

Dram voltage is locked @ 1.20v for this bios. This is fine because we don't need to change it anyway as these so-dimms appear to scale really well. Or the dram could be getting fed whatever it needs since maximum memory frequency will be set on auto. Not sure which is the case here.

Choose custom profile instead of xmp but use the xmp timings.
Change the following
CL 14 -> CL 15
trp/trcd 14 -> 15
tras 35 -> 38 (
trfc 420 -> 525 (525 is jedec standard for 3000mhz, going to try and tune it later).
twcl 14 -> 15

Change the memory bus from 133mhz to 100mhz , make sure dram qclk odd ratio is disabled as i haven't tested 3100mhz yet. Go into memory config in the overclock menu and choose 15 for the memory ratio. Go to the standard menu and choose auto for maximum ram frequency.

Give it a boot. Test for stability in aida64. Here is a sample benchmark(yeah i should own the full version by now, I know ).

I feel like I learn something new all the time about this model. It's friggin' awesome. 6820hk model is practically a mobile 6700k, love this thing.

From all the reading i've done about skylake, I see a lot of information how the voltage rails for the core/ring are tied together. Not 100% sure of this(or at least for this cpu/bios/laptop) since in the bios the ring has it's own voltage rail. If this is indeed the case, I wonder what the ring voltage/rail actually has an affect on, maybe dram voltage? Would love to hear some thoughts on the matter.

Cheers.

 

Okay so I tried 4 sticks @3000mhz at the same timings. Not sure if the IMC wasn't having it or if it is because the 4 sticks are from 2 seperate kits(all 4 work fine at 2800mhz though). Perhaps i'm reaching the limit of the IMC. Will try seeing if I can goto 3100mhz or 3200mhz with identical latency next(cl 15-16-16/cl 16-16-16) for 2x8gb sticks.

 

I was lucky enough to find the GT83VR motherboard with the 6920hq for $450 shipped. Time to take out the GT80S motherboard and swap out.

I also Got the whole bottom assembly with CPU heatsink for $190 shipped too.

Luck I tell ya ... lol

Edited: got too excited, the CPU is a 7920HQ not 6920HQ lol

 

Wow, how does it perform to your expectations?

 

Anyone know where I can get my hands on an official recovery image for the gt83vr6re? Can't seem to locate one on the msi site.

 

Not really sure my friend.

In all honesty I had to make my own. Which works a bit better than the one they gave me. (no idea where I left it sorry)

If I recall properly I think you can get one sent to you if you contact support.

Speaking of installations and recovery, does anyone know of a good Linux distro that would work with this machine? From what I understand some laptop hardware configs can be finnicky and I want to use my existing hardware as a testbed before I jump ecosystems.

Primary usage would be Gaming, Very light game development (I'm starting to try dabbling as a hobby) and high speed ****posting.

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Can someone who has GTX 1070 in their GT83VR upload a bios for me? I have a card that i need to flash so I can use it without modding inf files.

Also , can the GT83VR run on intel graphic without dGPU?

 

Was eyeing this as well, i have an Area-51m with 9700k and 2080 on order for basically the same price. Very tempted to get the GT83, wondering how the 1080 SLI stacks up against the 2080 in gaming. I imagine the area-51m is probably the better choice in this regard but the GT83 is such a beast.

 

If the title supports SLI well it will easily beat it. If not we'll...it's a 1080vs a 2080.

Though you may want to check the TDP values on your 2080 as they are neutering cards to keep them quiet and cool. Some cards are even performing at a tier below their badge.

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The full gtx 1080 from a GT73VR/GT75VR scores higher on the graphic score than the RTX 2080 in firestrike. Stock vs stock.

 

I think your right I should just stick to my area-51m order. I'm better off going for the single best card. I do love the 18 inch screen and mechanical keyboard since they introduced it. I rarely play games on laptops anymore and don't find gaming under a 17 inch enjoyable.

I was very disappointed with the RTX laptop performance this year given how much they've under-clocked them and limited their TDP. The Area-51m 2080 is the 200 watt tdp version and is just slightly less performance than the full 2080 desktop which is why I placed an order.

 

My GT75 2080 is ~20% faster in Firestrike than my GT73VR 1080 at stock settings for both. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/18865286/fs/18128480#

I can overclock and boost both scores substantially, but when both cards are topped out, it's still about 20% faster. The gap increases at 1440p and 4k.

It's an incremental upgrade at best, but I've yet to come across a situation where it runs slower.

 

Yea. You gotta really watch the TDP limit on the new cards. If it's a 150w 2080 it can probably be matched by a 180w 1080.

Though the SLI 1080's are 150w.

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The 150W TDP didn't seem to hurt the 2080 too badly, at least at stock settings. Playing around with both the G703GX and the GT75, the 200W 2080 is about 5% faster than the 150W one. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/18392456/fs/18865286#

This translated to real world games as well, for instance in Metro Exodus the ASUS 200W 2080 kept a 100MHz higher clock than the MSI 150W when running ray tracing effects on Ultra.

So vs the 180W 1080, the 150W 2080 is 20% faster and the 200W is 25%. Although I'm sure when applying heavy overclocks, the 200W is going to hold those better.

 

At stock is doesn't seem to make much of a difference in regards to base clocks. But afaik you more or less pay the same for a 2080 regardless of what it's going into so why pay for 25% less possible performance.



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I am planning to work in the 200 Watt GTX 1080 in theGT83VR lol.

I am just waiting to come across a 150 Watt GTX 1080 heatsink.

 

Started moving to Linux on this machine. God damn it's a pain in the ass to dual boot these.

So far so good. Are there any suggestions to get the D drive to show up on both. I was thinking to have it look like removable storage.

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So the GTX 1080 200 Watts does work in the GT83VR FYI.

 

Really? The vbios mod?

Are there any drawbacks/issues?

Any hardware mods needed? Etc



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It’s plug and play. No modding needed.


http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/gt83vr-titan-running-full-blown-gtx-1080-d.828328/

 

Ohhhhhhhhhhh it's the actual physical card.

I thought it was a vBIOS flash like they are doing with all the gimped rtx cards.

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