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    \/\/\/\/\/\- The Official MSI GT60-2OD Owner's Lounge -/\/\/\/\/\/

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by xMAR99, May 19, 2013.

  1. Lava6000

    Lava6000 Notebook Consultant

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    The mSATA that comes with it is good. It's SATA III, and only a minimal gain would result from upgrading it.

    But the drive that you mentioned, the 840 Pro, is only available in the 2.5" form factor. It is not a replacement for the mSATA, but rather would be a replacement for the 1 TB 5400 RPM drive. This model supports a total of 3 mSATA drives, and one 2.5" drive. Hope this helps!
     
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    Really? GenTech allows me to choose the 840 Pro as an upgrade to the 128GB mSATA. Either way, I guess I'll just stick with the mSATA.
     
  3. erikranger

    erikranger Notebook Geek

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    There is sapce for a 2.5" drive where the mSatas go. I was going to place my 840 pro there,but I do not have the connector for it.

    I removed both drive (mSata and HDD) and placed the 840 pro in the HDD slot. It has been amazing so far. I have a 512gb 840 pro, that is more than I will ever fill!

    If you are keeping either drive, I would keep the mSata over the HDD. The mSata performs better and does not consume but an eighth of the power of the HDD.
     
  4. saladin Ayoubi

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    guys i found that the keys in the middle of my gt60 got brighter color more than the rest of the keyboard keys...is that normal?!!
     
  5. IronSheik

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    MSI makes everything available to re-download after a clean install except their recovery software. I don't know why.

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
     
  6. xMAR99

    xMAR99 Notebook Evangelist

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    No worries!

    I've uploaded the recovery discs:

    DVD1: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxmrUQtpJfQrdTBHMEFoYmVjdFk/edit?usp=sharing
    DVD2: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxmrUQtpJfQrQW9YdzdVSVpsbUk/edit?usp=sharing
    DVD3: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxmrUQtpJfQrWXNpblpVSVJVcTg/edit?usp=sharing
    DVD4: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxmrUQtpJfQrXzYxeENZUExGeFE/edit?usp=sharing

    Added to main post :)
     
  7. the_profesor

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    I was wondering for the people who ordered their gt60 from gentech.com, did anyone op for the glossy screen upgrade? Personally I prefer a glossy screen over a matte screen just because its more vivid and is it a new screen or do they modify the oem screen to be glossy?.
     
  8. IKAS V

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    They install a totally different new screen if you want to go glossy, but members that have the stock screen say it's very good too, personally I would stick with the stock screen as I find reflections in glossy screens distracting.
    Plus I wouldn't want to stare at my ugly face all day :D
     
  9. juliant

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    I do not know if any of you guys can help me... Any input is highly appreciated!

    Every time I watch a video (either youtube, media player, Netflix etc.), get the picture freezing now and then. It freezes for few seconds (though the sound still works) and then it comes back to the video screen. It happens all the time and I do not know what else to do anymore... I have reinstalled windows, I have changed the drive to a different one, I installed different type of video drivers, I changed the settings to run only from iGPU or dGPU and still I have the same problem. Sometimes its even freezing completely and I have to do a hard reset...

    I am wondering if its related to optimus. Anybody else is getting this?! Thank you.
     
  10. Hendrickson

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    Anyone got this running a a 1440p monitor? How does it looks. Can you run 1440p over the HDMI or can only the display port do that. If I get this system I will be running it through my monitor most of the time.
     
  11. xMAR99

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    Hmm haven't had that problem at all, what GPU is active during playback?
     
  12. erikranger

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    This was also my first question.. Another question, is everything you are trying to view streaming? Are you able to play a DVD/Blue Ray without an issue?

    I am not having this issue. I have used the regular screen as well as HDMI out while playing youtube clips, VLC, or other media players. I am not having any issue like this either. Also, I was using the iGPU and dGPU and still no difference.
     
  13. juliant

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    I found the culprit. It looks like it only happens when I am connected to my Bluetooth headphones. I tried to update the drivers for the killer thinking that may solve the problem, but it does not do anything. I love to watch movies / youtube videos with my Bluetooth headphones (I have several models like kliptch, bose etc. and the issue is still there), but I guess I can deal with it as long as there is nothing wrong with the hardware... It's known that killer cards have a lot of problems...
     
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    My bad, I didn't really explain my self. Is the upgraded screen really a "upgrade" (as in better specs) or the same thing as a oem screen just with a glossy finish. It's a $75 upgrade and if its the same specs then I'm not really to sure about going for it. I've heard nothing but good things about the oem screen but I just prefer a glossy screen, although the only draw back is I occasionally scare myself at loading screens, like who the hell is that, oh its just me.
     
  15. felix3650

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    I don't get that even though I use a bluetooth gamepad. I had flash completely hang my pc because of compatibility problems with Windows 8. It's flash version 11.7 (latest). "Downgrading" to flash 10.3 solved all problems related to freezes/hangups/crashes. Even Adobe admits the problems and its working to fix them. It's the way flash is behaving when in an isolated sandbox (enabled by default on Windows 8).

    Hahaha. Especially on dark/creepy games with only a faint light behind :p
    The stock matte panel is great. I prefer it over a glossy one. You might consider upgrading to the AUO B156HW01 V.4 95% gamut NTSC panel. That would make a noticeable difference ;)

    On a side note: I'm enjoying Windows 8 on this notebook. Really a breeze to use it :) snappy and responsive. And regarding Metro, I'm getting used to it (even though I boot it directly to desktop :p). Windows 8.1 might "fix" most of the perks 8 has now. I get 5:50 h battery life on stock config (780m off) and temps never go above 80C on CPU and 82C GPU (85C overclocked to 980/2900 stable) :D
    Only got to 91C on GPU with BF3 and Crysis 3
     
  16. juliant

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    I don't even have installed Adobe Flash yet. Netflix plays through Microsoft Silverlight and you do not need flash for media player + I use a Bluetooth keyboard myself (Logitech k810) and I do not have any problems. I watched a full movie without turning the Bluetooth headphones on and had no issues whatsoever... I do not know its strange what happens, never faced this issue before.
     
  17. Lingermanias

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    I've been reading that the MSI 2od is running hot, should this be taken seriously ?
    I'm thinking about getting one and just wandering if I should be looking elsewhere because of heat problem.

    thanks
     
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  19. Talon

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    Anyone know know of a good guide or are really good with Intel XTU? I am able to OC my 4900MQ to 42/41/40/40 stable. But it is only showing 3.7Ghz across 4 cores while gaming in BF3, with occasional spikes up around 4ghz. Do I need to adjust any of the power settings? Or voltage? I did bump up the long and short boost power to 57w/60w. Not sure which voltage to adjust or by how much. I am thinking maybe a slight bump would allow for higher clocks. But I also think this 180w power brick is limiting me. Are we able to use a larger brick? Or are we strapped down due to this NOS design.

    Max available unlocked multis are 44/43/42/42, but as soon as I hit apply windows crashes and the system reboots.
     
  20. erikranger

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    The highest temps we are seeing is around 93°c while gaming. This is without the cooler booster running. With the cooler booster running the highest temps we are seeing is around 75 - 80°c. With proper repasting, some are seeing 10° cooler. We are exploring ways of lowering the temps, but if you feel that 93°c is high, just use the fan. The fan is a simple toggle on the keyboard, it tends to be a little loud, but it gets the job done very well.

    The amazing part to me, even though it says 93°c, the palm rest and keyboard is still cool.

    There are many nice features to this laptop, and I believe the heat will lower as we continue to test and more drivers become available. This was just released about 3-weeks ago, so not everything has been ironed out. I myself am enjoying learning and testing with everyone else.

    Erikranger
     
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    How are you overclocking? I thought you needed the Xtreme version 4930MX (unlocked) for that to work?
     
  22. Talon

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    There are 6 unlocked extra multipliers for OC on the 4900MQ. The 4800MQ has 4, and the 4700MQ has 2.

    I am overclocking with XTU since the stock bios has no overclocking options. Maybe that will come later with an unlocked bios.
     
  23. ryzeki

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    How's the 4900MQ? How are temps?! That's quite the performance behemot you have there.
     
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    Stock temps are great. Around the same maybe a bit better. I replaced the stock thermal pads with my own so that may have helped bit. BF3 runs great, but it did before with my 4700MQ as well. I'm hoping I can figure out how to get this thing stable at 4.2ghz across 4 cores. Will be a beast!
     
  25. felix3650

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    Oh ok my bad. I though you talked about internet videos on your browser that require flash :p
    I think it's got to do with bluetooth polling. Maybe Windows it's trying to check if your headphones are still connected and during scan it triggers optimus, freezing the video output but not the audio output. I'm just supposing here :)
    Bluetooth keyboards act differently from bluetooth mice and headphones. They don't require such a frequent status update. Have you tried another media player? I use SMPlayer for local media and never had any issues. Also it has higher video/audio quality output ;)
     
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    My GPU never goes over 75 degrees after a day of folding@home using defaults. If I turn on turbofan, it sits around 68.
     
  27. ryzeki

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    All this talk about 4 ghz CPU is making me jealous hahaha, damm such amazing performance!
     
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    Hey ryzeki,

    How do you enable Nos? I think my system is down clocking due to power limitation not thermal.
     
  29. ryzeki

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    You have to have running Hybrid Power. It's a shorcut on the desktop. If you installed another OS or a fresh install, download Hybrid power :) Make sure you have the battery ON and your AC adapter connected!
     
  30. xMAR99

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    Try restarting while holding the G touch button to force the processors in an overclocked state ;)
     
  31. ryzeki

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    :eek: going to try that today!
     
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    When I click on the hybrid power icon on desktop it doesn't give me the option to turn it on.
     
  33. Lava6000

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    Official Beta drivers which support the GTX 780m are now available through NVIDIA! 320.49 Beta:

    Drivers | GeForce

    EDIT: Scratch that. After the installation initializes, it says it does not detect compatible hardware. :(. Time to wait for a modded .inf file.
     
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    Thinking about returning my y510p for a gt60 2oc, just not sure if I can handle the bigger form factor and how much bigger the charger is compared to my sli y510p. I could use the GT60's longer battery life though around campus next year. What do you guys suggest or have to say about the size of the GT60 and its peripherals.
     
  35. ryzeki

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    Once you run the program it stays "on" in a sense that it is activated. It will show AC and battery as READY and once you game or do demanding tasks it will switch to ON automatically. The key here is to keep the software running!

    These gaming laptops are heavy but for dimensions they are still very manageable. The AC Adapter is huge, but you can keep that in your bag if you won't be using it. But you know, back when I was in college I actually had bigger laptops haha. Even when I began college I had a huge laptop with a 1 hour and a half battery :)

    I say the GT60 is easier to handle around by dimensions, but weight till probably be heavier and bulkier than the lenovo. After a while you get used to it.
     
  36. WhatsThePoint

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    Did you mistakenly download the driver for Desktop and not the Notebook

    W7/W8 x64 320.49 NVIDIA mobile driver.(BETA)

    Drivers | GeForce

    Supported Products:
    GeForce 700M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTX 780M, GeForce GTX 770M, GeForce GTX 765M, GeForce GTX 760M, GeForce GT 750M, GeForce GT 745M, GeForce GT 740M, GeForce GT 735M, GeForce GT 730M, GeForce GT 720M, GeForce 710M
    GeForce 600M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTX 680MX, GeForce GTX 680M, GeForce GTX 675MX, GeForce GTX 675M, GeForce GTX 670MX, GeForce GTX 670M, GeForce GTX 660M, GeForce GT 650M, GeForce GT 645M, GeForce GT 640M, GeForce GT 640M LE, GeForce GT 635M, GeForce GT 630M, GeForce GT 625M, GeForce GT 620M, GeForce 610M
    GeForce 500M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTX 580M, GeForce GTX 570M, GeForce GTX 560M, GeForce GT 555M, GeForce GT 550M, GeForce GT 540M, GeForce GT 525M, GeForce GT 520M, GeForce GT 520MX
    GeForce 400M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTX 485M, GeForce GTX 480M, GeForce GTX 470M, GeForce GTX 460M, GeForce GT 445M, GeForce GT 435M, GeForce GT 425M, GeForce GT 420M, GeForce GT 415M, GeForce 410M
    GeForce 300M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTS 360M, GeForce GTS 350M, GeForce GT 335M, GeForce GT 330M, GeForce GT 325M, GeForce GT 320M, GeForce 320M, GeForce 315M, GeForce 310M, GeForce 305M
    GeForce 200M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTX 285M, GeForce GTX 280M, GeForce GTX 260M, GeForce GTS 260M, GeForce GTS 250M, GeForce GT 240M, GeForce GT 230M, GeForce GT 220M, GeForce G210M, GeForce G205M
    GeForce 100M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce GTS 160M, GeForce GT 130M, GeForce GT 120M, GeForce G 110M, GeForce G 105M, GeForce G 103M, GeForce G 102M
    GeForce 9M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce 9800M GTX, GeForce 9800M GTS, GeForce 9800M GT, GeForce 9800M GS, GeForce 9700M GTS, GeForce 9700M GT, GeForce 9650M GT, GeForce 9650M GS, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce 9600M GS, GeForce 9500M GS, GeForce 9500M G, GeForce 9400M G, GeForce 9400M, GeForce 9300M GS, GeForce 9300M G, GeForce 9200M GS, GeForce 9100M G
    GeForce 8M Series (Notebooks)
    GeForce 8800M GTX, GeForce 8800M GTS, GeForce 8800M GS, GeForce 8700M GT, GeForce 8600M GT, GeForce 8600M GS, GeForce 8400M GT, GeForce 8400M GS, GeForce 8400M G, GeForce 8200M G, GeForce 8200M
     
  37. Killerinstinct

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    actually NOS is built into the notebook no matter what , i didn't even have to the program installed and it still use both AC and Battery but just for the sake of having the program , i downloaded it
     
  38. ryzeki

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    Really? Mine doesn't unless you use hybrid power. It simply downclocks. When I use the software, I can sustain the +135/+400 clocks easily
     
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    interesting .... but my battery did drain , maybe it isn't as efficient with program
     
  40. felix3650

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    NOS is built in the notebook's EC and circuitry design. Hybrid Power does only manipulate the EC part, overriding the actual power source from only AC to AC+BAT if needed. It does the same thing Nvidia VGA OC did for the older generations. When you pressed the turbo button, it activated the EC profile (vBIOS profile P0). This is what I found out till now. I'll make a dump of the entire EC firmware and start analysing it and see what else I can dig out :p
    :D
     
  41. juliant

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    Yeah, it does that especially when you use the most demanding programs / games gets the extra 'juice' from overclocking itself. Maybe you have an older bios flashed in your system. What version is it? My advice to you, if it does what you say it does (Stays at the lower clock while not using hybrid software) you should stick to it otherwise you will end up with high temperatures taxing on the GPU. I have noticed on mine if I use for example in GRiD 2 at full settings enabled and on a cooling pad without turbo on, it goes at about 86 degrees and sometimes even more...
     
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    Indeed it doesn't work, you have to modify the inf file. They have not included any code above 750M. As a matter of fact if you search for a driver for 780M, it does not give you that option.

    This is what you need to add:

    NVIDIA_DEV.119F = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M"
     
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    Thank, got it working now but I still think there is power limitation when I over clocked. On the memory I can go 500 plus find but the core at +135 it keep down clock to 967mhz when I game for like 20 minutes (highest temperature is 83c). So I just clock at +120 core and at that clock it run without any down clocking.
     
  44. juliant

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    There are situations and situations when you will get different readings of the cpu / gpu temps. Have running hdinfo in background and run some very demanding games and you will see that your temp doesn't stay at 83 without turbo unless you are in a basement or you have some a/c blowing directly in the unit.

    I tried almost all the paste in the market and best I could get after heavy running several games without turbo and on a cooling pad an average of 86 degrees on the gpu and max 70 on the cpu. Please keep in mind that there are games which do not need so much power and that is where you get lower temperatures.

    If I had to stick to that I would say that my temperature on the GPU is 68 max. Just a note: almost every system out there with the 780M (even if they have dual fan control) are facing the same issue since this card needs a lot of juice to give you the power and eliminates heat at higher temperature which makes sense.

    If you find a way not to tax the gpu too much, you will be fine and have games running at full settings without disturbance or low fps. We are running games at 60+ fps now some above 100 etc. and really speaking nobody needs that!

    That's my complete understanding so far and if I had to buy this system all over again, I would not hesitate even a second. If you do a lot of search on this forum, you will get so much information and knowdlege no matter how nob you are. In the end you will realize that this system is almost perfect and by far better with less trouble then any other out there.
     
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    Anyone know if we can use a larger power supply? Like a modified 230W adapter? I need more power.
     
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    /\/\/\ That is an excellent question :) Though I doubt if MSI messed with the bios and had a limit on the juice from the power supply. My only concern is that, I have noticed that when the GPU is used at maximum and gpu boost becomes active, starts taking more power from the battery. I will check later today if the watts / amps are the same on my alienware with 330w power and if it fits in the machine. If the answer is yes, I will remove the battery and see if it stills overclocks... Then we will all knw that a 230/240w power supply will solve our problem...
     
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    Thanks for that quick and helpful response! I was asking because I think my OC problem is stemming from a lack of power. I can overclock the cpu to 40x across all 4 cores, and even a bit higher. But as soon as I place a load on the system with either a bench or game, it clocks itself back down to around 3.6-3.7ghz across all 4 cores. Which isn't bad, but isn't the full potential of this CPU with its 6 unlocked turbo bins. If it does work for you, I will look into getting a larger PSU.
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Juliant! I know what you mean. It will be great if you can check with your alienware PSU! The trick will be to check using your 330w PSU and removing the battery. Hopefully it will be alright!
     
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    mrchman Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have been stalking a few threads here and there and have read the entirety of this thread and the 20D owner's thread for information. My G73jh is starting to give out and my warranty is up in a couple months, but they let loose some information :p IF something were to happen to my laptop at this point in the game, they'll give me store credit for my g73 ( full original value!) . I had to look for a nice replacement and started with the y500 then the y510p, then the clevo/sager, and now you guys have me set on the gt60. Instead of buying something I don't want, selling it to get cash, (possibly lose money by not getting the full amount I paid for it because I can't get cash back) Then go off and buy whatever I want from xotic or what not.

    Now I can use my full store credit and get a 2OD for like half out of pocket and a hefty warranty to go with it =D All because of you guys =DD
    I was thinking of a 7200rpm drive? or is the 5400 stock OK?
     
  50. juliant

    juliant Notebook Deity

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    If you have the 128gb msata ssd as boot the 7200 rpm will not make much difference, though some people have commented a bit on that the 5400 rpm hdd it kinds of slows down in sometimes. I cannot confirm that since I have not used hdd for few years now and everytime I get a system with an hdd I remove it straight away out of the box, but I keep them for warranty purpose.

    I think you should do that only if the cost is minimal.
     
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