Breaking News: MSI GT60 3K Edition!!!

Hopefully should be soon yes

 

MSI GT60 2OD-261US 3K Edition NV GTX780M, Intel 4th Gen Haswell CPU
it's already available! -now all I want is the first tests of how this screen resolution affects fps in games etc before making any decisions of my next purchase, so please if you will find any reviews -let us know! (I dont want to adverstise any sites) so I decided to remove the link with the shop that I previously pasted here, just google it -MSI GT60 2OD-261US -sry for that), prices start from $2,099 -for basic specs

 

Wow it's only $2,099.00, I thought it'd start at a much higher price.

Just do the pixel math:

2880x1620 = 4,665,600
1920x1080 = 2,073,600

4,665,600/2,073,600 = 2.25 as many pixels to push. This isn't a Retina Macbook situation, but the stock GTX 780M is ill equipped for such a resolution. Overvolting and overclocking seem essential, and even then, you won't be running demanding,games at their highest settings..

Just for reference, since they're essentially the same card, 2560x1440 is where the desktop GTX 680 tops out in today's games. 1620p is ridiculously high.

 

Does it mean graphics in games will look bad with base i7-4700 and 16 GB RAM even with lowered resolution/graphic settings from ultra to high or from high-medium? What would be the difference -I would like to see the actual and real comparisions, thats why I asked for tests I guess. Thanks for the answer. On a side note msi is about to release gt60 2OC 3k with gtx770M http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT60-2OC-3K-IPS-Edition.html#overview

 

I did say not to expect double lol. But yes it's here and pretty good value IMO.

 

Damm! I am so busy with work I didn't even see the 3k edition up and ready, and at such a tempting price!

I am seriously considering it even if the 780m might simply not be enough for triple display or 3k res.

 

Glad to see this is finally available! For those of you who plan to use the high DPI screen for design work, please take note that Adobe has NOT updated most of their software on the Windows side for these 3k displays:

Adobe Community: Adobe suite HiDPI on Windows 8.1

The UI does not scale up at all, so the menus and UI elements are supposedly very, very small and hard to work with. Hopefully Adobe and Microsoft will get this sorted out soon.

Autodesk Maya and 3ds Max also do not have scaled-up user interfaces for these high DPI screens.

 

I'm still waiting for a definitive answer as to whether the 3k screen is compatible with our current GT60's! I've read one yes and one no, both reliable members and resellers here.

Also, curious how it looks scaled down to 1080p, as that will be required for new and future games... the video posted here was playing BF4 slower than I would prefer for the settings. But, if it looks good downscaled and I can enjoy the 3k for desktop use and movies, I would be all for it.

I figure the Windows UI scaling issues are similar to using desktop mode on 1080p 10" tablets; doable but needs dramatic improvements.

 

I hope I am proved wrong on the screen, I have not personally tried it so I could be, I just look at the maximum 2048 × 1536 (QXGA) at 60 Hz resolution for dual channel LVDS and wonder how you shove 2880x1620 down that.

 

That's what I wonder as well, unless the current screen is eDP already. That would make sense.

 

But if you search around you find this: Screen for MSI GT60. Replacement Laptop LCD Screens

The 3K screen is almost certainly eDP, so...

If 15 inch laptops are 3K , I can only hope that 17 inch laptops will be 4K next year.

 

It is eDP.

 

So, to someone not totally sure about the terms here, is the "40 pin LED socket" from that link that sells screens for the GT60 the same as the "eDP" that is assumed to be on the new screen or are those totally different? Curious minds...... Google wasn't very clear.

 

The new screen is eDP, the non 3k screens are lvds.

 

As far as I know. 40-pin Led is LVDS.

 

Yes the standard 40 pin connector is a dual channel lvds, the 40 pin missing 10 pins is the single channel LVDS.

 

So it finally launched ey? That took some time but hopefully it will be worth it. It is probably a really really nice display.
Would love a 3K display which are 17" or 18" btw.

MSI Global GT60 2OD 3K IPS Edition

MSI GT60 2OD-261US 3K Edition NV GTX780M, Intel 4th Gen Haswell CPU - GenTech PC

 

Yes, a 17inch 3K or 4K display gaming laptops.... is my dream.

 

3K 17 - 18" would be amazing.

4K is just too much for mobile hardware but im sure a top end mobile GPU could handle 3k with MSAA on x1 or off.

In fact what would be ultimate is if they reduced the bezel on their laptops and fit as close to an 18" as possible in a 17" chassis at 3K

 

3K on a 17.3 inch screen would be aprox 200 ppi.
4K on a 17.3 inch screen would be aprox. 265 ppi.

current 17.3 inch at 1920x1080 are 127 ppi, while my screen is 133 ppi.

I think at those high ppi, down scaling would no longer be an issue.

 

Well at 4k you can do half each res and end up with a decent res still I suppose.

 

Hi all- 2qs:

How much RAM would you rather recommend for a 3K resolution - 16 or 32GB (mostly for gaming and not for video processing or sound editing)? Just wondering since the resolution is 2x as high as 1080p and it might affect loading times?

Which of these would provide maximum performance?
DDR3 1600MHz (Corsair Vengeance CL9 Dual Channel Memory (2x8GB SODIMMS))
DDR3 1866MHz (Kingston HyperX CL11 Dual Channel Memory (4x4GB SODIMMS))
DDR3 1600MHz (Kingston HyperX CL9 Dual Channel Memory (2x8GB SODIMMS))
DDR3 2133MHz (Overclocked Kingston HyperX CL12 Dual Channel Memory (4x4GB SODIMMS))

 

Also, did anyone else notice that the display isn`t just a 3K res display, but also IPS?

:thumbsup:

I have IPS now in my Alienware and its awesome. I`m spoiled now so next year I cant buy a notebook without IPS lol.


Also, from this page and 3 more they cover stuff about the display.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=EN&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.notegear.com%2FContent%2Fcontent_view.asp%3Fspage%3D9%26gotopage%3D1%26TNum%3D1560%26kind%3D2%26SearchString%3D%26Search%3D&sandbox=1

For gaming? You be fine with 8GB DDR3, maybe even 4GB. Its the memory on the GPU that matters. Since GT60 only comes with 4GB GTX 780M, you have that covered too.

 

What's the difference really between Corsair Vengeance CL9 and Kingston HyperX CL9 both with 1600Mhz?

 

Hi,
I am really looking forward to the 770m version of the gt60 with the 3k display. Do any of you happen to know the release date?

@Cabal01 - 4gb is too little, 8 gb is just right, 16gb is important if you use a lot of large filesizes routinely (but for most users 8gb is entirely sufficient) 32gb is unnecessary and wasteful for 99%
I would personally choose 8 or 16gb and really the cheapest value is what i would go with. You have to realize the daily usability will be hardly noticeable regardless which you choose.
We're talking 1-2 second differences at the most, and likely 1-2 fps differences as well. nothing major. Heres a link to show how insignificant it is: AnandTech | Memory Scaling on Haswell CPU, IGP and dGPU: DDR3-1333 to DDR3-3000 Tested with G.Skill
Also, its the videocard that will be doing most of the work for the higher resolution-- 8gb vs 16gb ram will make no difference in that regard.
The two CL9s should be the same essentially at that speed. go for the cheaper.

It's a shame they went with glossy for the display, I was really craving a matte ips display, but if toshiba and acer don't come out with one in the next two weeks, this will likely be the laptop I purchase. Any thoughts or suggestions for those considering this laptop? Thanks

 

Have not heard of this news for now, but 770M may be underpowered to handle such resolution.
But what you mentioned about system memory are true.

 

Hi Kevin,
MSI Global GT60 2OC 3K IPS Edition
I agree with you that a 770m would be a bare minimum, if that, to game at 3k native.
Fortunately, I plan on gaming at 1600x900 or 1920x1080p and just ramping up the quality settings and max out the AA (antialiasing) to keep everything looking sharp, while preserving good frame rates.
Yeah I'm a little surprised it didn't become available at the same time as the 780m version.
Hopefully soon.

 

The 770M wont do well with modern titles at native at all, but it gives you the real estate for practical work and you can tone down the resolution in games.

 

Exactly! I still think it's a great laptop.
Let's hope we will see more of such screens in Alienware and Clevo laptops.

Edit:
From UK - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=LT-107-MS&groupid=959&catid=1828
( MSI GT60 2OD-092UK )

 

well take a look at the fujitsu laptops -there are WQHD+ (3200x1800 pixels) screens in those, accidently discovered it last night, still those are only "the buisness laptops" with not dedicated Intel HD 4400 cards. But it's good to see that other brands follows new trends, still msi is no1.

 

well take a look at the mobilQ.pl fujitsu laptops -there are WQHD+ (3200x1800 pixels) screens in those, accidently discovered it last night, still those are only "the buisness laptops" with not dedicated Intel HD 4400 cards. But it's good to see that other brands follow new trends, still msi is no1.

 

There are also Dell business laptops with high 3K+ screens. I think all of them use the same 4K Sharp panel.

 

The DELL M4800 Workstation Laptop is priced at $1989 and the spec is provided below.
Official Spec:
Dell Precision M4800 Workstation Details | Dell
It is using Sharp IGZO panel, but not IPS.
Press release of M4800

Processor
Intel® Core™ i7-4800MQ processor (Quad Core 2.70GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo, 6MB 47W, w/HD Graphics 4600)
Operating System
Windows 7 Professional English 64bit (Includes Windows 8 Pro license)
Display
15.6" UltraSharp QHD+ (3200x1800) Wide View Anti-Glare LED-backlit with Premium Panel Guarantee
Memory
8GB7 DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive
750GB 2.5" 7200rpm Hard Drive
Video Card
NvidiaQuadro K2100Mw/2GB GDDR5
Optical Drive
8X DVD+/-RW Drive Slot Load
Broadband
No Mobile Broadband
Security Software
McAfee 12 Month Subscription
Warranty
3 Year Basic Hardware Service with 3 Year NBD Onsite Service after Remote Diagnosis
System Weight
6.35 lbs

 

Yes quite expensive considering the graphics power.

 

The GPU I think it's the equivalent of the 660M or 755M.
But the Precissions have always been more expensive.

 

Even the Dell XPS 15 haswell refresh with the 3200x1800 screen is selling for ~1900-2000$
and it is just an i7 4700m with a 750m graphics card!
Compare that to the lenovo y510p... i7 4700 with same 750m card for 750-850$ !!!
Apparently Dell thinks the display and chassis alone should account for more than 1,000$ in difference. I hope buyers aren't that gullible.

Igzo does seem more desirable than IPS but not to that extent.
Hopefully we will see other companies with igzo offerings paired with more powerful gpus soon.