GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion

I've got a bad feeling that 980 owners are also going to 1070 cards even though it's almost a sidegrade.

 

/me awaits the eta for the 'official' response. Meh.

 

Is that a response we should be looking forward to or is it a glorified version of their current answer?

 

Bingo, classic BS tactics to keep the herd placated and the current sales going.

If MSI really planned on keeping their promise to provide upgrades, they would outright say it, not say "news is coming", in "about a month".

Not impressed, and not fooled by this tactic.

MSI, say it, don't BS us by stretching this out, stop yanking our chains.

MSI needs put out a clear statement *now* that Pascal MXM upgrade cards are in process and will be coming out for the GT80/GT80S and GT72/GT72S in the near future.

MSI telling us a non-descript announcement is coming in a month from Marketing isn't reassuring.

Update: MSI has come through with a trade-in program for GT72/GT80 owners:

Official MSI News, Events, and all things MSI.....
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ents-and-all-things-msi.795144/#post-10326272

 

hey MSI, whats up with no gpu upgrades? where is our 1080 in gt80? and seriously rid of those pathetic 6820hk while you're at it and replace them with desktop CPU pls.

 

no bro, 64gb will remain, its up gradable. CPU on the other hand, you can blame intel for giving us BGA mobile chip to use. ask MSI to use desktop CPU instead.

 

Here is the latest word from MSI:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...for-the-msi-rep-2.795226/page-3#post-10326270

 

Well color me impressed. Time to see what they're charging.

 

Yeah, I'm curious to see how they define "trade".

 

the 1070 is a sizeable upgrade from the 980 even the desktop one. sidegrade is the wrong word/term to use

 

Sadly, this tradein program is USA only. Hopefully the program becomes international otherwise all other owners get shafted for trusting MSI on their words. I guess this could turn into a lesson to never trust any company and if something sounds too good to be true (it most likely will be).

 

1070 stomps the 980 desktop. Even the new desktop 1060s can beat a 980. Hardly a "sidegrade".

 

I am not going to lie. I distinctly remember reading about the program and that it only applied to specific countries. Not trying to be a party pooper or anything. I will try to find just where I read it though. Part of the problem is that we heard about this program over the US to begin with.

 

I agree that 1070 is a big upgrade compared to the 980 and 1060. Since the laptop 1060 is a bit slower than the desktop counterpart, the laptop 980 should be a tad stronger in general compared to the 1060.

But the 1070 is what, like nearly 40% faster still?

 

I would hope the program would be available in any locale that MSI offered the 2 generations of GPU upgrades.


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I am borrowing this from another thread, as it seems appropriate to discuss here too:

Anyone else disappointed?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/anyone-else-disappointed.795318/page-7#post-10326323

MSI would do well to make the cost/terms advantageous to the GT80/GT72 owners, to keep the good will going. We are losing out on the 2nd generation of GPU upgrade as well, so MSI please make this worth it for us all.

If we will be giving up our Windows 7/8.1 OS's for a laptop that has Windows 10, that's a definite downside for many of us.

If MSI can make it Windows 10 Pro so we can use our downgrade rights to install Windows 7/8.1, or even make Windows 7/8.1 an option, that would be awesome.

 

Here is another one:

*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-113#post-10326307

It's a good start, but let's see the price for the trade-in before we get too excited

Ok, maybe get a little excited

 

just submitted my form, I wonder if they are getting back to anyone yet for more info?

 

Everything is happening quickly, I would hope MSI would sent it out soon.

 

Don't blame only Intel. ODM/OEM's can use socket i7 in their laptops if they wanted!!

 

I'm so curious to see what this is. I'm hoping its a credit program. They give you a good amount in MSI credit for your notebook and let you pick the notebook of your choice. If they come within 10-15% of what we paid, ill be a happy camper.

 

Edit: yeah, that might work out about right.


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I paid 4400 for my GT80S, 15 percent is 660 bucks to get a new GT83 with 1070 or 1080 sli. My wish sounds too good to be true

 

that is true, these bigger oems like msi, asus, dell wish to target the majority of consumer only to go after money, understandable from a business side, but assisting intel selling garbage not cool.

 

To be honest you going to be looking at at least 1500 IMO for the GT80. That is the only way they can do a upgrade with the new tech that will be in the systems.

 

Hey, there could be a chance they let us "side grade" right ? For no cost? Maybe go to a single 1080 GT83 or a 1070 sli notebook from our 980 sli Titans for free. You never know !

 

Hmm, I'm guessing you'll get credit toward the new machine?

But if, in the end, I ultimately end up on the hook for more than I expected the GPU upgrade to cost, I still lost.

Form submitted.

 

From the text of the Notice from MSI:

"...MSI will be offering a trade-in program for those who currently have GT72/GT80 models with GTX 800 and 900 series graphics inside to new GT72/GT83 with GTX 10-series packed with our latest gaming features."

To me that sounds like any and all GT72's and GT80's, whatever 800/900 series cards they have inside, and all models; GT72S and GT80S included.

Sign up for the trade-in and find out

 

In case a moderator removes it from the other thread as being off-topic there, I'll quote what I said to the rep here so the call for accountability is not lost. The way MSI and Clevo owners are getting shafted with Pascal is unacceptable and we need to call them out on the nonsense. Glad to lend my support to MSI brothers. The only thing that separates us is my contempt for crippled BGA CPUs. If they fix that, I'll probably join the MSI family as a Titan owner, but until they (Clevo and MSI) get their act together I'm not wasting another dime on disposable laptop crap that cannot be upgraded.

 

I already sent in my email. I just worried that it is going to be a really bad trade in program where they give a less that 50% return on the laptop purchase price. I would be shocked to see anything above 60% to be honest.

 

They're just looking for a creative way to milk you guys of more money while making you think they're doing something special instead of taking accountability for their actions and making things right. They need to eat our loss (all of it) for their bad engineering decisions and so does Clevo.

 

I totally agree with you. I have been one of the main people complaining about this system as a whole because of the power flaw in it. Now the new system seems to fix that flaw with the new video seems nice but even at a 60% return on the trade that would cost me 2500 to upgrade call me skeptical.

 

It should cost you nothing for them to fix their mistakes. They sold a flawed product and need to make it right. Now they're doing wrong by everybody with proprietary GPU form factors that won't work in yesterday's machines. And, leaving MSI customers for dead just as Clevo did to theirs is despicable, scandalous and unacceptable. Doesn't matter what brand name is on the laptop, nobody should tolerate this crap from any OEM.

 

And yet like you said it is going to cost for a "upgrade" program. I think it should cost something but not 2500 dollars.

 

well, the new nvidia GPU goes about 800-1200 a card on ebay, back with the 980m which is absurd. with oem they could mass purchase these so say maybe 650 per card? + replacing manual labour work, heatsink etc included in there possible a bit more.

 

I'm not advocating that Clevo or MSI to give away free GPU upgrades. I am advocating for them to repent and ask forgiveness for their treacherous behavior, bag the filth they just released in an effort to screw us all into buying new replacement laptops, go back to the drawing board and redo things the right way so it works for at least GTX 980 owners that want to upgrade. Nobody should have to buy a new laptop to get 1080 or 1080 SLI. That's pure BS. It should be a drop-in upgrade for all GTX 980 owners.

 

The 980 desktop version for the laptop card is still 1300 on ebay right now :/

With the other upgrade the 64gb of ram, 1tb super raid. That is another price increase there also. But they are getting our hardware back and will be able to refurbish it and sell it again. So there is that option for them to again money grab.

To be honest if the program is there solution then it better be worth it. And they need to disclaim on any further sales of these two system that upgrading is not available.

 

It's $1300 for Clevo 980 cards as well.

Expecting either one of those thing from NVIDIA?

 

I too purchased the GT72 due to the upgradeablity (and convinced friends to do so too) and now this happens. I honestly dont care how long it takes for upgrade kits to come out (can have time to save up) as long as there's an upgrade kit. 970m to 1070 seems reasonable to me, as long as they fulfill the promise. Hope the trade in program comes to the Netherlands . There's an MSI factory in my city (Eindhoven) and funny enough, the laptop i got from the US came from that factory or whatever it is

 

So no hope for us GT60/GT70 owners
I'll stick with my 980m upgraded GT60-2OD untill something reasonable comes out (if it ever does..)
If not my next PC will be a desktop build and the GT60 will be my transportable "replacement"

 

The program was never offered for those models in the first place. It always was GT72/GT80.

 

I was hoping for a MXM 3.0b upgrade kit (hopefully compatible with my notebook). I know the upgradeability is just an "added bonus" for the GT60/GT70 generation and only the GT72/GT80 was promised.
Just wishful thinking

 

I'm quite happy to stumble across this thread now.
I wondered why in the specific threads not much fuss was going on on the possible un-upgradability.
My investment in the GT72 980m was done based on the upgrade promise.

I can understand that it might be the case MSI can not keep the promise due to technical difficulties creating upgrades which actually work in the existing machines.
So I might be forgiving...

But, this promise must then be compensated in at least the same amount as the upgrade's value.

Upgrade means for owners: buy an (expensive) GPU upgrade kit, remove the old one from the machine and sell it.
As my 980m MXM would have great value still for other upgraders, I could ask a fair amount of money for it.
So in the end, the investment on a new kit would cost me much less than any given prices for the new GPU's in the stores.

And upgrading has the advantage keeping the existing setup. No need to re-install/setup OS and software and possible changed hardware (extra SSD's, memory etc).

So what does this mean for a trade-in program?

Let's say that upgrading from 980m to 10x0 in the original promised solution would cost me 1000$ (by selling the 980m)
(that is keeping my setup as it is, keep my OS and software. Custom additions to hardware will keep working).

I would expect MSI to compensate me by replacing my setup with a comparable machine and ask 1000$ for it.
The downside for customers having to reinstall and re-setup software/hardware we will take.
MSI should take the fact that a comparable replacement will result in a machine which probably will have a newer CPU and some extra/enhanced options.

IMHO, this is the only sensible and "fair" solution for MSI and would be acceptable for us customers...

 

The trade-in program is for USA only, while these machines were advertised as upgradeable worldwide. I would suggest that EU costumers should take things to the EU court. Saying that it's false advertisement is an understatement, because it is a double one (2 upgrades, while you haven't seen one). I'm FRUSTRATED where the "enthusiast" (there's no longer such thing) notebooks are headed. Thankfully I'm not an owner so I don't have to deal with them, and from what it seems, I would NEVER be one either (unless they fix it).

 

Really, MSI should be offering a full refunds.
The product isn't as advertised.
It was sold under false pretence.
All their sales came from people who wanted to upgrade.

It's actually a fairly black and white what's happened here. Lawyers have a slam dunk on this one so MSI might want to come up with a generous solution...or
Do as they originally promised.

 

Currently MXM 980m's are going for £600 on ebay, say the upgrade kit to a 1080 MXM was £1,000 the max a GT72 owner should have to cough up is to have a machine with MSI's offered upgrade is ~£400.

 

RJTech was selling Clevo 1080 cards for $1250 USD.

 

1250 USD = 946.5 GBP

 

Yeah, they're pricy. The 1060 was going for the what the 970m sold for ($450 USD) and the 1070 was going for the 980m's price (around $750 USD). You can get a TB3 chassis and a desktop 1070 for that, and then just swap out cards after that.

Certainly makes it a tough call.

 

I have 980 desktop in my gt80,not 980m.