GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion

Competent and articulate response old bean. best of luck with the pitchforks.

 

I'd give it a 3/10 as far as trolling goes. Seen much better. .




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I know I'll just link to an imaginery GPU instead of the one that is actually installed,

 

not agreeing with you = trolling?
"n Internet slang, a troll ( /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, [1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community"

am i missing something again? something as obvious as a £900 price difference maybe?

 

wouldnt surprise me, thats what msijah has been doing this entire thread

 

That's 1250 +vat +shipping +tax.

 

Hello guys, this is my 1st post!

Still no response for my e-mail (1/11) do you guys know if they are slowly replying or something like that?

Thanks a lot.

 

Let's all be nice

If you were just coming into it now, the amount of material to read is daunting, and mostly unnecessary for an understanding of what is offered.

@Cenarisla - at least read Post #1, and find out what you can, some people are angry about the result MSI has provided, whereas many are happy to have a way to upgrade their Maxwell laptops to Pascal laptops, and again to "Volta" laptops.

Even if MSI bowed to the wishes of everyone, there would still be unhappy people

There is no way MSI can make everyone happy, but MSI has put together a trade-in offer for the USA, and hopefully other regions will adopt it.

You should also speak your mind to MSI when going through the trade-in, asking for reasonable considerations.

Such as keeping your purchased upgrades for storage and memory - asking MSI to deduct the stock memory / storage costs from your trade-in price. I know at least one person that is successfully doing this - they can speak up on their own to provide details if they feel so motivated to inform the group.

Some of the people that have done the trade-in process have posted their process and results over a few posts. It would be good for you to at least read backwards in the thread to get recent information.

I have posted several answers back from MSI Trade-in Group workers to share with everyone. And, I have put all but the most recent in the #1 Post. Read those too.

Keep asking questions even if you think they are dumb, we are here to help all get through this together.

 

Yes, USA has been responding slowly, but picking up the pace.

If you filled in and sent the trade-in application form, and followed up with an email recently, be patient and let them process the requests.

If you haven't sent in the form you can still do that - the 10/31 cut-off is no more - you can still submit the form anytime until MSI cuts off the trade-ins sometime after the 2nd GPU generation upgrades.

Please let us know what and when you hear back from MSI, and if you feel comfortable please post your process as it progresses so others can see what's going on and how MSI is treating you.

 

Yup! i did it on 27/10, and i get the 1/11 reply... but no words since then... i guess i just have to wait a little bit more.

Ok! i'll post the entire trade when they contact me... thanks a lot for your fast answer btw you should work in the trade in program XD

 

Buying locally is likely to be $1 = £1 that's pretty normal for tech.


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Cool, if you have requested a quote on a trade, that would be where I assume you are with MSI now.

You've gotten the trade-in chart and stayed up to date and know you can trade for any GT model.

You've picked your configuration from what MSI has offered in the USA, then make an offer and requested the trade of your choice.

So now all you can do is wait for service from an MSI Trade-in Program agent.

Have fun with your new Pascal laptop

 

Do you really think that a GT72VR with crippled M.2 ports is an upgrade ? Do you really think that GT73VR with no blu ray reader, and crippled 6700 processor is an upgrade ?
We don't all have the same PC but we all know that in many cases, we will lose function if we upgrade. And since when Nvme is more stable than previous SSD interface ?

What he means is that when we bought the laptop initially, we aimed for GPU upgrade only in the future. We didn't necessarily budget or plan to spend more than the GPU upgrade. Whether or not it gives us benefits with the new laptops, if we didn't plan to spend a lot for the rest of the upgraded specs, that's not our responsibility, it's the responsibility of MSI entirely. I'm not saying everybody is 100% screwed because some of us are happy to spend a few extra money to get more than GPU upgrade, but bear in mind that we can all spend so much on an upgrade and in some cases we just can't at all...

 

I also sent a reply in asking about trading my GT80S with 980M SLI for a GT83VR Single 1080 GTX. I also asked about options for builds that only require one AC Adapter, as I don't think lugging around 2 power bricks is going to be an option for me. If they can't make a single larger wattage adapter at this time, I may hold off for a future upgrade.

 

Well, single gpu on a gt83vr is not an option according to msi. If i go with a gt73vr titan pro, i lose an optical drive, which is almost a deal breaker since i use it for work.. I feel like all of my choices are bad choices. I dont want dual 1070's and i dont want to dump another 2900 upgrading to 1080's from my 980m's.

 

If you only use ODD at work, what if you use it externally instead?

 

I am a optical drive user as well but went with the GT73vr Titan Pro and will just use a external drive.

I know us optical drive user's are a vanishing minority

 

Here is the latest pricing chart I have. I was requesting prices for my GT80 980(M) SLI to trade for a device with a GTX 1080.

I think I am going to pass at this time, as nothing really justifies the high cost or loss of functionality in my eyes. The lack of an optical drive, loss of mechanical keyboard, extra power bricks, $1400 base cost for an upgrade, etc. I am completely appalled with the trade offers and the costs associated with the trades. I will likely not buy another MSI product given how this has gone down.

 

$1400 to go to dual 1070s seems like a good offer.

 

If I knew without a doubt I could upgrade to the following gen myself, I would feel better about that $1400 pricetag. Unfortunately, I'm really worried that if I spend $1400 now, I'll be spending $1400 again next year in a high priced laptop leasing scheme.

I wish they would make a GT83VR with a single 1080 and a single brick. Hopefully the next gen laptops have the half height mechanical keyboards. I just hope they don't devalue my current model to being worthless, since the promise was that we merely had to upgrade GPU's.

 

I asked for why I hadn't received a reply after a month from MSI Australia. This is their reply:

I need to apology to you first. I totally understand your concerning. But I still not get any feedback from HQ yet.



They are still giving me the same responses as last time I send to you, the message as down below:

Greetings, valued gamer!

Thank you for supporting MSI products. And keep submitting your forms for the trade-in program for your GT72 or GT80. The GT72 and GT80 with GTX 900 series are facing limitations of the power and thermal design, which will not be able to convert into GTX 10 series. We value our customers and in order to fulfill our promise for GPU upgrades, we can replace your laptop for a new model at the same cost as if you were to have been able to solely upgrade the GPU from GTX 900 series to the GTX 10 series.

We, MSI, may offer the latest GT72VR 6RE(Dominator Pro Tobii)-099AU with GTX 1070 graphic cards at $3,599, which is gives a 10% discount compared to its original selling price of $3,999

If you agree the price, please give us a feedback to Ivy Hsu before 30th Nov, 2016. In the mean time, you have to return your NB GT72s 6QF (GTX980) with battery, AC adaptor, and related key parts if you decide to have the trade in.



We would like to know your feedback, and will do our best to offer the best service for you.

I am still asking them for more information. But none of the people are replying me the issue. @@



But thank you for reminding regarding the upgrade thing, I will try my best to get best results for Australia users.



I am really sorry for many inconveniences.



Have a great day.

Ivy

 

Did anybodty got any response from Spain? thanks a lot in advance

 

I can definitely understand being nervous about whether Volta will fit in these laptops. There's no way MSI makes the same mistake again, just assuming it will be so. We won't know until MSI has the 1170/1180 n hand, to test themselves.

Honestly, if I had dual 980Ms, without thinking I'd be skipping this upgrade cycle.

 

I still have an open question to MSI about our trade-in laptop devaluation, they answered another question but ignored this one, so I asked it again.

 

MSI is talking like the 2nd generation will be a trade-in offer too, not an MXM only upgrade. MSI said they don't know what form the next generation GPU will take, or what the physical or electronic requirements for supporting it will be.

It could go either way, but after MSI's last experience I can't imagine them promising anything other than another trade-in.

That leaves MSI open to going back to an MXM only upgrade if it's possible.

It's possible HBM memory replacing DDR5/5x will require physical changes to the MXM board. And there may be other unforeseen changes to the motherboard or connector, or again with power / cooling.

 

got this response today just a little while ago...

Hi David,



We are currently slowly getting in contact with everyone personally about their case. Due to the extremely high volume of trade-in requests and the complicated nature of this program, it is taking us longer than expected to get to everyone. Don’t worry, your information is on file with us and there is no deadline to trade in your laptop. We will make sure to take care of all of our customers. Please continue to be patient while we get to you.



Thank you for choosing MSI!

 

That's great news, I'm glad MSI is making contact with everyone to let them know they aren't forgotten.

If you don't get one of these over the next week or so, send an email to [email protected] letting them know you didn't get one and ask to make sure you are on their trade-in list.

Ask MSI to check and make sure they received the trade-in form you sent.

 

This what they offer me so far.

 

So your GT72VR w/ 1070 ($800) and GT73VR w/ 1070 ($1,000) offers are $100 more expensive than mine (which were $700 and $900, respectively), with me having a GTX 980M. Not bad, considering I spent what, $400 more for my GT72 than you did yours.

That GT72VR w/ 1060 offer made me laugh though, wtf are they trying to pull off there? I was offered that for $300.

 

I may skip this cycle. It depends how they devalue our laptops. If they do devalue my device at all, it means they once again aren't standing by what the promised via email that we are only paying what it would cost to buy the GPU. If they don't devalue our devices and we get a shot at an 1170 SLI GT8X variant, it would be a much better deal at $1400, but to go from 980m to 1070 feels a little lackluster. It isn't a horrible deal, but they certainly aren't doing me any favors especially after I factor in setup, data migration, shipping, etc.

My 980m sli rig really isn't all that slow, and the GT80 with the dual SSD RAID array is incredibly snappy.

 

For anyone waiting for their first response from US MSI. I sent my form in 11/18 and got my first response today, 11/23. So, a 5 day turnaround there. Hope you get as lucky. I will post my entire conversation after they get back with me. Sounds like many people have to wait a while for that second response..

Anyone with a 'GT72S Dominator Pro G Dragon-004', if you can tell me what you got as an offer that would be great!

 

Yeah MSI needs to come out asap, with what happens if Maxwell owners hold out for Volta. It won't be fair to wait a year, then tell us that the price goes up.

Those offers are in this thread somewhere, Godspeed if you go looking through 300 pages.

 

Got a reply finally for Canadian customers.

7 days notice to fill out the form seems a little fast. But there you go.

 

That's a literal copy and paste of the original post the MSI rep (?) snallygaster posted here in the forum to US customers, just with the email swapped out for a Canadian one.

Much effort.

 

I'd rather see MSI's unity of purpose, than something completely different

 

Did MSI Australia just claim that the GPU upgrade is 90% of the new notebook's value?

 

Submitted my form and received the following. If I want more options (GT73VR), do I just ask for a breakdown for my machine (980m)? Is that what people have done. Also there is no mention that I have to do it now or that I can wait. Will ask.

Thoughts on 950$CAD to go from GT72 980m to GT72VR with GTX1070?

 

Already sent a follow up.

 

Well it seems like they're matching the US offers, as $950 CAD converts to about $704 USD, which equates to the $700 I was offered for the GT72VR.

 

Yeah just went back to look and you're right. I'll post prices for more options if/when they reply.

 

MSI France didnt acknowledged the mail I sent them about the proper program in the usa
lol they want me to pay the price of a new GT72VR 1070 Laptop to "upgrade" my to a 1060 GT72VR hahahahahahahahahahahaha..

 

I wonder why MSI have not released a worldwide statement/upgrade program...


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Yeah, MSI said we have till well past the 2nd generation GPU upgrade to act on the trade-in, so a long time

If your model at stock is worth a certain trade-in, then you get the trade-in model at stock.

If you upgraded parts, and those parts can be moved to the new laptop, then put back the stock parts and keep the upgraded parts for the new laptop.

If you have upgraded DDR3 memory and the new laptop takes DDR4, and storage you have is M.2 SATA where the new laptop takes M.2 PCIE x4, you can try to negotiate a trade-in that gives you upgraded parts in kind - same GB sizes.

If the chart doesn't have the specific GT model you want, like you want one with a 6820HK or 6920HQ CPU, then ask for the trade-in cost for that specific model.

You can trade-in up/down in GT models available in your region as you like, but not for GS or GE models.

That's about all you can negotiate.

 

Thanks for the reply. Hopefully they'll put that in wiring to me specifically. Not that I don't believe it, just want to be sure. They don't exactly have my trust right now, understandably.

 

They don't want to have to deal with thousands of exchanges. Look at how much they're struggling with just handling the current workload, imagine this x10.

MSI isn't making a hefty profit off of this program, so there's no need to bother with informing more people.

The only region in which MSI is even speaking publicly, is in the UK on Facebook.

 

Would we say a company with any integrity would endeavour to inform all of its customers that are affected?


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Well the payment posted on my credit card today, no turning back now I guess.

I'll be the first to trade in a laptop that has physical damage, let's see what happens. The person at MSI I've been in communication with said I'd be fine, but now we'll see.

It is troubling. I've honestly been grappling with how to feel about it.

Maybe we're the guinea pigs, and once they are up and running, the official announcement will be forthcoming? Maybe I have too much faith in humankind.

I really just want to log on MSI.com, and see a full media blast.

 

Look, they are acting, but people still think MSI is just one big company. That's not how it works. They are actually setting up teams per region, and that's the reason it is also taking time. Thanks to your efforts, MSI UK was created faster than other smaller regions. Right now, they can still change/extend the upgrade program, specially for regions that still don't know. The current limit was for USA only so far.

USA was the first, mainly because we started asking about the program a long time ago with current representatives here.

Even if MSI released a "world wide news note" it won't be handled by 1 company section, but multiple teams dedicated sorely for this task.

To me, it seems MSI is working constantly to improve what the original plan/idea was, and that's why the whole program changed to what it originally was, as well as the lack of actual full guidelines. they are busy. The USA team is responding all mails so far, at least mine, but they do take time, and they did let me know they were very busy working with all current exchanges, but at least I am glad they are answering.

Now, I am not sure how MSI will proceed with other regions, to be honest. I do hope for the best for users, and at least in my case, I am actually satisfied with the current offerings. But this does not mean everyone is, and I know it won't be the same experience for all.

 

You got the GT73 with 1070 or 1080? At any rate, I really want to know your input about the new GT73 model, compared to your GT72.

 

If anyone want to know how much MSI values the MXM GTX 1070, there's a simple way to find:

Look at a GT73VR with a 1070, note the spec and price, look at a GT73VR with SLI and the same spec as the GT73VR. Subtract the single GT73VR with single GPU price from the SLI price, and voila, you have MSI's price for the MXM 1070.