GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion

It seems, everyone with GT80s that have 980s at least, are getting the same base offer of 1400 to move to an SLI 1070 machine. The price on top of that to move to 1080s changes based on your original configuration since it only seems to come in 1TB ssd / 64GB configuration from MSI. I'm sure price changes if what hmscott says is true where you can mix and match RAM and HDD size.

Their pricing schema seems weird though.

If they're going to go off retail, I would have liked to see them take what everyone paid retail, with some deprecation factor based on date of purchase, and then just charge us the difference based on whatever model we wanted. The price to jump to a new machine shouldn't equal total more than if you were to give up your machine and pay the difference for retail of the new one.

In my case to jump from my sli-002 to an 83vr-024 i'm paying 600 more than the retail cost of the computer itself when you add the 3000 i paid for mine just a few months ago.

 

This response is full of MSI propaganda. You have no idea how many people have accepted the trade-in. I have only seen 4-6 people in this thread respond that they accepted it, which seems quite low for this thread and forum.

 

If you feel you need to keep this alternative resolution discussion going please create a new thread, a place to vent your opinions, and please stop doing that here.

@MiSJAH and others please stop using this thread as your personal vendetta outlet against MSI, take this elsewhere.

I will be happy to link your alternative resolution thread in the 1st post here.

 

So why not just provide a nice table with the values? That would be simple and transparent.

This.

I'm happy it works for you. MSI must be glad you don't read closely or question what they say.

You don't need to reply. But I like to read your posts, so do as you wish my brother.

 

Please read the other comments, not even a vendetta. Seeking validation of statements made. You created this thread for this topic to be discussed. Discussed it will.

You caved, you don't like the fact that others have not. Not our problem.

There are inconsistencies that can and will be discussed.

Again, thanks for your contribution and starting this thread.

 

Guess what, you don't get to tell people what they can or cannot post about the upgrade. This thread, started by you, states it's about the upgrade. It says nothing about positive responses only or that we have to only say good things about MSI. It you don't like what someone else has to say, too bad...

 

We shouldn't talk about the lawsuit here, but I can say that I will be taking MSI's offer. Call it caving if you want, but being on all sides of possibilities at this point in time and weighing all options to the end, it makes the most sense to (me) in my situation

 

The lawsuit was mentioned previously, everything else is purely my speculation. I have no further info. I am in the UK not US.

 

I agree that there should be no discussion about any legal matter regarding this issue. I also have no issue with someone that decided to take the upgrade, as I can understand why some would want to. Nobody should be berated for doing so. However, there is some animosity against MSI regarding this issue and it shouldn't be discounted.

 

MSI took in all the input we created here and elsewhere as owners needing MSI to come through on their promise to provide 2 generations of GPU upgrades, and from that owner input MSI created the trade-in program.

That's what we have to work with. The input time is over. The trade-in program now exists, and it's time to move on.

All owners can and should negotiate the price for their individual trade-in based on what they have and what they want so MSI can offer them a price for that particular trade-in.

There are many combinations and variations based on model configurations. It would be an unwieldy huge table to include all possible options.

Have you gotten that final offer from MSI UK? If you haven't then how do you know it won't be acceptable.

Again, please take the discussion elsewhere, no more here, please.

You have been repeating the same thing over and over practically daily and no longer need to do so. That time has past. Please stop.

If you can't help yourself, and can't stop posting this, please create a thread and take the conversation there, and I will put a listing for that thread at the top of Post #1, saying that this thread is now for helping people get through the MSI USA trade-in program.

Everyone interested in continuing this complaint topic can take it up there.

 

Except a trade in is not what was promised at all and an upgrade mxm capability was. Other companies have already shown that MSI's own words to be false in that mxm 10XX will not work in current models. The "trade in" program is a nice cover our ass and hope we don't get sued measure taken by MSI that works for some but not all.

The questions posed by people in this thread lead to greater discussion and learning such as the varying pricing being given to customers in communications regarding the trade in program and differences between statements made by MSI and their asking points. These statements include "upgrade cost only for GPU" and yet in another email state that other hardware figures into the equation. This statement also gets shown to be widely subjective based off original owned product for what MSI "believes" it to be worth and it's then other expanding upgrade cost based off that worth.

The more discussion from all sides, those claiming scam and providing evidence why, and those who blindly except what is given from MSI help move the knowledge base as a whole especially in understanding of exactly what everyone is getting.

 

Yes, I just thinks it's just as naive at this point to just think pushing, questioning and bad mouthing MSI is going to all of a sudden make them change their offer as it was to assume MSI was just going to give out 83VR's to everyone who is part of this.

Time to face facts, this is what we get. Aside from some legal action, nothing is going to change. Period. Time to put the cash out or pass on the deal. It's really as simple as that at this point. Your only FU to MSI now will be to raise awareness and stop buying their products.

 

This has all been hashed and rehashed many many many many times here, and it's not going to change anything now that MSI has put into place and publicly announced their trade-in program.

Please follow @MiSJAH to the new thread to discuss alternatives to the MSI USA trade-in program as offered, so people that want to follow through on the trade-in program have a place to do that in peace.

 

You are ignoring others posting in this thread to take aim at me, this is inappropriate. If you would like that sort of thread may I suggest you take it elsewhere.

Anyway, enough off topic.

Who is taking the offer from MSI?

 

Asking for clarification of statements made is not pushing or bad mouthing, questioning yes. Would you follow blindly when inconsistencies are pointed out?

Also share with the group, how exactly you know nothing will change?

 

I am focusing on you because you are the champion of keeping this topic going ad nauseam and I need you to stop it, now. Take it to a new thread if you like, but stop this here and now.

Your posts are getting in the way of others wanting to pursue what MSI USA has offered USA owners, as a method to do the promised 2 generations of GPU upgrades.

If there are people that want to take this past what MSI is offering, this isn't the place to discuss it.

We rallied for a solution from MSI, and they have provided it. Game over, time to go home and either take the offer from MSI, or go elsewhere and discuss it.

 

Call it intuition. Feel free to save the quote and share when it does.

 

Hasn't MSI advised those that want to take advantage of the scam to contact them, you put those details on post #1.

It's not for you to say when the game is over.

Ask a mod to close the thread if you wish. I'll ask them to reopen as there is much more to discuss.

If you have anything else to say about me posting take it to pm, so this thread can stay on topic @hmscott .

 

You can start a new thread, this one is remaining open to help owners through the trade-in program.

 

but mainly for those with
GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussions.

 

Update to Post #1:

12/03/16 update:

Guys/Gals, we have been through a lot in the past months, but now MSI USA has taken our input, and given us an upgrade path for 2 generations of GPU upgrades.

MSI is offering Pascal and Volta upgrades through trade-ins for Maxwell GT72/GT80 owners through the MSI USA trade-in program.

The time has come in this thread to work with each other to help everyone through the trade-in program.

If you are not happy with the trade-in program, there is nothing this thread can do for you any longer, please create another alternative thread for that discussion and I will put a link to it here in this 1st post.

Thanks to everyone for their hard work and persistence throughout this process

 

That's not how these things work.

We members of the forums have much to discuss still. A lot relates to previous posts in this thread. This thread was created to discuss this. Because you have accepted the outcome does not mean we all have. Please stop acting like you represent us all.

To any one that wishes to post more in regards to
GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion.

Go right ahead, if I can help I will, as @hmscott gave a good fight but has given up. Anyone interested in pushing on with getting MSI to answer the questions we still have, stick around.

Let's make MSI provide the Perfection of User Experience it Insists on.

 

Holy **** I cannot believe what a complete and utter jackass you are. There are still discussions happening just 1 page before your stupid little tit for tat argument regarding the US trade in program and people getting differences in offers for the same product. By our discussions we figure out further courses of MSI's supposed offering (differences between SLI-001 and SLI-002 upgrade path). This thread is also not ONLY for the US program and differences found out during the US program can lead to further understanding and better questions to be asked of other countries follow on programs. For you to edit the #1 post just to win your argument is beyond childish.

 

Don't let the guy bully you. Just because he started the thread, doesn't mean he gets to tell people what they can say or not.

 

I have asked the Mod's to make a new thread for you, and to continue with the MSI Trade-in program discussion here.

You are on that Conversation list.

 

I am not bullying anyone, I am moving the thread to focus on helping people with what MSI has offered, you can all take the discussion to that new thread.

This is not that unusual, we worked to get MSI to respond, they responded, and have a program in place that makes good on their promised 2 generations of GPU upgrades.

It's time to move on with what has been offered and those that aren't happy with it can discuss it in a thread focused on that topic.

 

I am lost as to why you continue to post off topic comments in this thread and ignore other posters comment on your behaviour.

I have responded to your pm and the global moderator in a manner I consider appropriate.

Until a mod has made their decision, this thread remains open to discuss all aspects of
GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade.

 

You are welcome to create a thread for that purpose, it would be preferred to the continued off topic comments on this thread.

 

The thread was created to get MSI to offer the 2 generations of GPU upgrades, they made the trade-in program to do this, and we have now been through weeks of people interacting and getting questions answered to pursue getting their trade-in's.

And, those trade-in's have been successful.

Now it's time to move forward with helping others get through the trade-in process.

Keeping @MiSJAH diatribe going beyond this point is pointless. And, the same goes for anyone else that wants to propose other alternatives, it's taking bandwidth away from helping owners through the GPU upgrade through MSI's trade-in program.

I didn't create this thread to be an endless ad nauseam continuous fight against MSI.

I like MSI, I made this thread to help them get input from owners to get their attention and provide us with the promised 2 generations of GPU upgrades.

MSI has come through, and now I would like the thread to move forward with their offering.

If you want to pursue other methods of getting what you need with MSI, then please take it to another thread which you are free to create, just like I did. I also offered to put a mention and link to that thread on the top of Post #1.

MSI has announced their trade-in program officially, and publicly now, it's time to move on.

"MSI HQ made an Announcement for the program on the website."
http://event.msicomputer.com/usagttradein/

 

If you would like to do something different to GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade Discussion, why would you change this thread rather than create a new one, when there are people that still want to actively discuss. And when other countries announce their trade-upgrade programs people will want to discuss them here, where they first heard about.

I'm not sure what help you can provide to someone that has received an offer from MSI, suggest they take it or don't take, that's about it.

I courteously and respectfully ask you to stop off topic posting in this thread that is still discussing GT72/GT72S and GT80/GT80S Owners GPU Upgrade.

Many thanks.

 

I am not doing something different to this thread, it's a continuation of the successful push to MSI to make good on their 2 generations of GPU upgrades.

They have done that, now we need to help each other through that process.

The thread has always been about bringing MSI around to make the offer, and follow through on helping NBR members through the process.

Continuing dissent against MSI isn't on topic, it's beating a dead horse; that time is over, that part of the process needs to stop here. You are welcome to continue it elsewhere.

Rejoice in our success

 

I'm happy you feel that way, I do not. As other who you are ignoring do not. MSI's other areas are still to launch their programs.

It would be great if you stayed in this thread to help those that you can, preferably without dictating to others what they can or cannot post.

I have emailed MSI UK my questions as I posted a while back, I will update the thread when they reply. I will critically analyse the information offered by any MSI area and question the parts that are contradictory. Theere should be a demonstration of integrity by MSI. Their recent offers to the USA do not demonstrate this.

You chose to ignore the questions I posed to you about accepting the offer, now I wonder why.

 

You are the one causing this problem today, but I already had in mind to start focusing the thread into helping people through the trade-in program. So thank you for focusing my motivation to do so.

Your agenda isn't welcome here any longer. You need to start a new thread and continue there.

You aren't helping people, you are making noise and doing nothing helpful with it.

We need you to stop this and move on to another thread with your complaints.

 

That is the problem you fail to recognize, very few consider this to be a success. There has been less than 10 people in this thread so far that have said that they are accepting the trade-in. To me, that seems like a minority. Once again, just because you are the thread starter, doesn't mean you get to tell others what they can post regarding the upgrade. If someone has a legitimate gripe, they should be allowed to state it as long as it is on topic and that topic is the upgrade discussion. You are now simply a propaganda machine for MSI and don't like dissenting opinions.

 

Then start another thread, and work out your frustrations there.

Please understand that you aren't helping by doing what you are doing.

I am helping by doing what I am doing. I am trying to get this thread back on track and out of the never ending complaining about something we cannot change.

Reality is that MSI has made a public offer now, it's not in the formative stages, it's fully formed, so no further complaining is helpful.

It's a tough change I know, but you need to come to terms with it and move on.

If you feel that you need to take alternative action then please start a thread and discuss it there.

We now have a working trade-in program from MSI, the goal of this thread has been attained, and now we need to support the owners through the process.

Again, please start another thread, and I will put in a reference to it in Post #1, and we can also direct people there on an ongoing basis as they come to this thread.

No hard feelings, it's just time to move on.

 

I think that is a little misguided. MSI caused this whole issue.

What you had in mind and what happens in this thread are not necessarily going to be the same thing.

I'm pointing out inconsistencies with MSI's program, customers should be aware of this, no?

My 'agenda' is for people to see all aspects of discussion surrounding the GT72 and GT80 GPU Upgrade, what is your agenda?

You saying I should start a thread is not going to happen. You have involved the Lead Moderator for the forums but rather than wait for their comment you continue to try and bully me out of this thread.

I agree we need to stop this inane and off topic nonsense in this thread, I suggested pm pages back.

Let's wait and see what @Charles P. Jefferies has to offer when he is online?

 

Nope, I am staying here and stating what I want on the topic, others should do the same. Your arrogance doesn't get to dictate what, when and where I post...

 

I am trying to reason with you @MiSJAH - we need you to stop doing what you have been doing.

Either accept what MSI is now publicly offering and contribute positively to helping owners through the trade-in program, and / or start a new thread to continue the discussion on what MSI is doing wrong in your opinion.

We don't need the distraction of both in this thread, we need to focus this ongoing thread on reaping the benefits of what we have won with our persistent efforts.

Not fritter it away day after day with constant complaints.

If you can't get positive with what we have won, then please start a new thread to win what you want from MSI.

 

This is not true. You want me to stop what I and other want to do. At least say it how it is.

There are more options than that. This thread is to discuss matters of the topic, therefore this will be discussed.

I agree, please stop posting off topic comments.

What you need is not what others want/need.

We do not share the same definition of won. As it would others posting recently do not share your opinion either.

Why not stop posting until Charles has had chance to read and make a decision. If you agree I will refrain from posting until then also.

That's reasonable bro.

 

Nothing was won, since MSI is still making money from those that decide to accept the deal. Maybe you should put nothing but positive opinions are allowed in your thread subject header since that is what you are trying to dictate...

 

Hmscott, please stop telling us that we are not helping. You already took the upgrade. I am glad you are satisfied with it. However, many of us are not and we wish to discuss it further.

At this point, you have nothing more to discuss until you need to upgrade to the next generation. In fact, your back and forth emails with msi is likely a large part of why msi does not have the resources to contact other parties who are waiting on replies.

Since you took the liberty of having this topic pinned and it now has 350 pages, i also feel like you forfeit the right to surpress content you do not agree with, but we will wait to see what the mods say. I do hope the hostilities stop, though from both sides.

As long as this thread is about the topic in the title i will continue to contribute since i am still looking for my upgrade.

 

As we discuss this in public, we work out the details of what I am suggesting this thread continue to be, a place for GT72/GT80 owners to discuss the GPU Upgrade, which is now officially the MSI Trade-in Program:

"MSI HQ made an Announcement for the program on the website."
http://event.msicomputer.com/usagttradein/

That is when things changed for this thread. When MSI's working model for the trade-in program was finalized into a public offering.

We got MSI to give us what we asked them to provide.

It's what they promised, it's what we have available to work with, and that's what we will discuss moving forward.

There is no longer any chance of changing MSI's trade-in offer, so we can stop discussing it.

Complaining about it is ok, we all have, but continually complaining about it on a day after day basis isn't good, and you are the main complainer as on a constant daily basis.

It's time to stop complaining here and start working together to help everyone through these trade-in's.

If you want to continue pushing MSI, then please do, we need to move on here and not get distracted by the constant berating you give MSI on a daily basis.

That's the problem I have with your constant filling the thread up with distracting posts that have long lost their need for being.

We need you to stop here and take that elsewhere.

 

"Start a new thread to continue the discussion on what MSI is doing wrong in your opinion"

Why should there be a need to start a new thread when surely this is what this thread should be all about?

 

Please consider not pushing your agenda on this thread @hmscott .

 

You have stated your opinion multiple times on the matter and others are allowed to state what they want on the subject at hand. If the mods decide otherwise, then that is fine. However, you do not get to decide to change the subject matter to only what you want, when you want it. I don't see where your opinion matters more than others on the subject, even if you did start the thread. This is simply a case of you wanting to control all of the discussion in this thread and you don't get to do that.

 

Wow i see all these additional pages and thought .. Ok something must have been announced and i have to read this! So i then realize that it is just a bunch of moaning and groaning about moaning and groaning.. I guess i will throw my half a cent in on this. I for one have not heard anything from them , Except for please be patient . They have not made any offers to me that even in a drunken stupor would make me think it was an acceptable offer. This thread is about "discussion" which should be the good , bad and the ugly. If someone is not happy with their offer. They should be able to express that here. You will never please every one . Some will be more vocal about their displeasure. It is the way life goes. But if we start rolling over and just accepting the bull they are shoving down our throat we will only get what they think we deserve. If they are in fact paying attention to this thread and people are tossing out suggestions and what they think would be acceptable, How is that hurting anyone? We are supposed to be a community .. Start acting like one.

 

If you read my posts you should be able to figure that out.

This thread was started to get MSI to respond to their promise to provide 2 generations of GPU upgrades for GT72 and GT80 owners.

We now have that:

"MSI HQ finally made an Announcement for the program on the website."
http://event.msicomputer.com/usagttradein/

Now we need to focus on helping GT72 / GT80 owners through that process.

Getting GT72/GT80 owners up to speed on what is available and helping them work through the process to get it from MSI

I want to recognize that we have won the trade-in offer from MSI, and need to move on.

Everyone that wants to pursue other paths to fight MSI can start a new thread to do that.

Such discussion is at cross purposes with this thread as we have evolved to have the Trade-in Offer from MSI, and the dissenting opinion is now at cross purposes with the thread.

The continuation of this thread is working with what we have successfully won with MSI through hard work and long hours.

To throw that away and continue frittering away the days with complaints would be the ruination of this thread and the loss of what we have won.

We need to keep the pressure on MSI through the Pascal trade-in program to help owners get their trade-ins, and continue this thread on through the Volta trade-in program.

That's where we can make continuing use of this thread. Not wasting what we have gained by complaining about it.

Please to take the opportunity now to start a new thread to continue your push for additional concessions from MSI, now is the time to take everyone unhappy with the trade-in offer out of this thread, and in to a new one to do what you can further.

I won't be participating in those threads as I believe MSI has offered all they can, and have bent over backwards to follow through on their promises.

I don't intend to insult our efforts and MSI's response by participating in a thread that constantly complains about MSI's response using the language I have seen @MiSJAH use every day to refer to MSI.

 

@hmscott who is the 'we' you are referring to? Others that are active in this want to continue in the way they choose, why do you feel you should dictate otherwise?

 

Thread locked temporarily. I am not privy to the private conversations about this, so don't ask me what is going on just yet.

Update: I've been included on the PM conversation and have started a discussion with other moderators. It's pretty thin mod presence tonight, so feel free to burn down the house! I mean... come back later and maybe we'll have this reopened for y'all.

Update 2: We are still discussing possible options, please bear with us!

Update 3: Still working on this. Apologies for the long pause, but we want to get this right. Expect a final update within 24hrs.

 

Sorry again for the long delay in getting this re-opened. *

We've gone through the gamut of options and after taking in opinions from a number of members, came back around to the simplest: just reopening the thread.

Moderators are going to be watching this thread very carefully and any everyone is entitled to voicing their opinions in a respectful manner. If there is any devolution into ad-homenem attacks or general disrespect of others' opinions we will simply ban members from posting in this thread.

edit: *Between it being a weekend and us mods being in different time zones, we had some long delays in communication.