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    MSI GE75 Raider v/ full 2080

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by ubelai, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. donotwant

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    Could it be because of tariffs?
     
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    I know that i did limit my scope but it's easier to buy from an official retail store here because of the shipping and stuff. But if I was in USA I would buy the laptop from your website.
     
  3. Peteteerapat

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    Hey guys, I am curious to ask you guys that what's the clock speed of your laptops. I know that it says like 1380 base and 1590 as boosted but while I was running benchmarks, I used MSI Afterburner and it says my core clock speed is at 1770 and i saw 1950 at maximum. Is this normal?
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    It is normal. The GPU will clock upwards until it reaches any of its limits, like power or temp. When you "overclock" you simply raise the max possible clocks but not set it at a particular speed. It will always fluctuate.
     
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    Ok Thank you for taking your time to answer. I have a friend and he was asking me about the max core clock of this gpu and I dont know that I need to tell him the 1590 Mhz or the 1950 Mhz one. Please help

    Edit: I told him both.Dont bother replying this anymore ;)
     
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  6. MikeSabino

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    Hi everyone, I'm new here and I've recently got the GE75 RTX2080 laptop. I'm wondering any of you guys using those laptop cooling stands? Thinking something like cooler master notepal x3 and/or the opolar cooler vacuum. My concern about the cooler master is like many laptop coolers they blow air from the bottom and from what I read radiated heat from the bottom will just get pushed back with this style of cooling and thus not be very efficient, any truth to that?

    And any comments on the Opolar vacuum? I live in the middle east and we basically leave the AC on all day, I dont game a lot as well as I have the PS4 for my gaming needs. I just maybe wanted to cool the laptop "better" in case I go play games on it.

    Thanks
     
  7. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    Could i please get some input from owners on the screen? Do they come with the chi me screen or the AUO?

    Is lid really bendy? Delicate?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  8. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    A notebook cooler will help to move the airflow to the intake of the system therefore allowing the system to run cooler and more efficiently. But since GE75 exhaust hot air from both rear and sides therefore it's going to move the cool air but this help is limited, or you can use turbo fan. Anyhow, liquid metal would help with cooling.
    Factory paste CPU 96C, LM down to 85~89 c

    Yes, it comes with Chi Mei N173HCE-G33.
    http://www.panelook.com/N173HCE-G33_Innolux_17.3_LCM_overview_37006.html
     
  9. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    The lid is flexible, but not exactly delicate. Meaning that normal usage won't cause any damage on it at all. My GT73 is also flexible and there are videos demonstrating it, yet I have no damage nor permanent bending or anything like that. In order to damage it, you would have to intentionally do it with that purpose.
     
  10. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks. I already sold the ge63, picked up the ge75 used luckily.

    I see whay you mean about the lid. Its not bad. Kryonaut repaste has lowered temps 5 degrees. Pretty good really. Put 2 sticks of ram and its running great.
    Seems dragon center uses the speed shift bios settings. By disabling speed shift and speed step in the bios, Throttlstop is still able to use speedshift.
    For battery i set to 255.
    I wonder what else i can do besides lowering clocks to improve battery life​
     
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  11. AcidArrow

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    Not all of them apparently. Mine has an AUO panel, which is terrible btw.
     
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  12. Quokka

    Quokka Notebook Consultant

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    Got my GE75 with 2080 today. So far very impressed. Setup and installs all went fine. Performance seems excellent. Fan noise is there, but I'm OK with it (under load its on a part with my GT80, but less intrusive as the fans are not so large).

    I have noticed one thing with the display though, which I'm not sure if its normal? Its a 144hz display, but I was thinking of running it at 60fps (or ideally 72hz) to reduce load on GPU and hopefully cause less heat / fan noise. In some games I have the option of setting the screen refresh rate (Assassins Creed Odyssey, Division 2 etc). Both give me the option of either 144hz or 60hz only though. If I set it to 60hz, its VERY smooth, but when I pan the view around there is noticeable smearing on the image - especially on the edges of objects - either black smearing or white smearing depending on the object. If I set the screen refresh to 144hz the smearing is not present. I can set to 144hz then cap the framerate to 60fps, but in my mind that does not appear quite as smooth as when I set the refresh to 60hz, but I do avoid the smearing effect by having it set to the native refresh of 144hz.

    Anyone else noticed similar, and have any tips / workarounds. I have no idea which of the two panels my laptop has. Is there any software that will tell me?
     
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  13. knibbler

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    Its listed in Device Manager/ Montors/Properties/Hardware ID of the internal screen.

    I would just limit my frames to 72 using rivatuner or another program. Run the screen at 144hz .
    These screens dont have fast response times at 60hz.
     
  14. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    You can add a custom resolution in the Intel control panel with whatever Hz you want. Then it should show in game as an option, or instead if you run windowed mode and you run your desktop in that mode it will run at that refresh. I've done this for years for the purpose you mention of reducing heat, but I wanted something above 60. I've used 85 and 100 many times as compromises on high refresh panels.
     
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  15. Quokka

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    Just tried that via the Intel display panel, but it gives an error saying "The custom resolution exceeds the maximum bandwith capacity"....

    Tried to set 72 and 75hz, same error message on both.
     
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  16. Porter

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    Try reversing the height and width numbers. So 1920 height and 1080 width, see if that works.
     
  17. Quokka

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    Same error, its weird.

    For the time being in Division 2, I've set a framerate cap to 70 (you can only set it in multiples of 5).

    70fps cap on 144hz refresh is close enough to half the refresh that its pretty OK I think.
     
  18. Quokka

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    According to HWiNFO, my CPU is hitting 95-96c and thermal throttling during gaming. Laptop is stock from factory. Set to shift sport mode on the current profile (the default).

    I don't notice any performance impact when this happens, so in practice is it anything to worry about?
     
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    Does this laptop GE75-Raiser-023 supports VR (Rift and HTC Vive?
     
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    Pwm is very high on this laptop screen and notebookcheck are saying there is a noticeable flicker at low brightness it’s 26000 MHz !!!!! Where Asus ROG GL704gw has no PWM (flicker free). Question are you noticing flickering in low brightness? I just cancelled my order at Amazon because of this, as I cannot see the laptop live in my country as it’s not available
     
  21. Porter

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    I don't detect any flicker at min brightness at all. I can't imagine a person could see anything above a few hundred hz max.

    I thought the review I read that talked about it said that they could detect it with measurement tools, not with the human eye.
     
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    Hello guys,

    Please can somebody help me ?
    I've bought this laptop and I'm really happy so far except for my temperatures ! o_O

    I've repasted 3 times tonight :
    - 2 times with Kyronaut
    - 1 time with MX4

    And my temps look still so HIGH !

    [​IMG]

    I have undervolted at -0,140V (cpu and gpu). Haven't touched any turbo boost and I'm still thermal throttling af !
    Can you please tell me what is wrong ? Is my paste job bad ? Are my temps normal ? Are you guys limiting the overclocking of the CPU ?

    I'm hitting 3,92 ghz max on Intel XTU.

    When I see that average people only hit 70°C with Kyronaut, I am wondering what is wrong with mine...

    Thanks a lot for the help !

    EDIT 2 :
    [​IMG]
    I am just playing Magic The Gathering Arena ! Look at my temp° !
     
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  23. ryzeki

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    What are your ambient temps? I get good temps when my ambient temps are 20 celsius, but when I game at 30-40 celsius ambient, I reach up to 90C on the CPU and 83 on the GPU.
     
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    Thank you for your answer ryzeki.

    No my ambient temperatures are fine (around 20°C).
    Are you guys using custom settings with Throttlestop ? (lowering turbo boost for example ?) Because I'm starting to think my unit has an issue to get such high temperatures...

    When I watch this video, I wonder how he can get 70°C max with Kyronaut.
    This is a shame because I really love this laptop but I'm thinking about returning it. Would you have some ideas about where that can come from ?

    Also, are you cores always running at 3,9 ghz ingame ?
    I disable turbo boost in Throttlestop and get now 60°C but only for 2,2 ghz for each core...

    Thanks a lot for the help guys !



    EDIT : is it possible to get such low temperatures only with Kyronaut ??
    Isn't he using LM ? Because 70°C ingame with normal paste is really good.
     
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    Nice results !

    How di you unlocked the bios for higher cpu tdp ?
    Can you pass Firestrike with Afterburner 1930@900mv ? That's pretty good !
     
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    Tried to get my Samsung mixed reality headset a go with this laptop and man is it jerky and laggy with tons of screens tears.
    I made sure the RTX2080 was driving the display.

    Anyone else had an issue?
     
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    Well it turned out it was a driver issue. Updated everything and bang..smooth as butter.
     
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    The new graphics driver resolved the issue?
     
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    I am not sure because I also had a windows update.
     
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    Good to know that it's resolved anyway. :)
     
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    Yeah my clocks are always 3.9ghz because I did the imon slope change in BIOS, so it tricks the system into thinking it's using less power than it actually is, so I am permanently in turbo clocks. However! These days the ambient temps are so hot that I am on borderline throttling temps. Since my GS75 is all aluminum, it gets very hot to the touch by basically doing nothing as well, my "idle" temps and low usage temps raise significantly to 60-70 celsius and GPU around 56 celsius.

    This isn't the fault of my notebook, but man, with 34-36 Celsius temp inside the room at my desk... and this is at night hahaha. I was playing risk of rain the other day and my CPU temps were in the 92Cs with CPU fan at 90%.

    A good paste, and a good paste job do make a difference. But for me the most limiting factor right now is very hot ambient temps. Luckly I run at 100% full performance despite them :)
     
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    Earlier in this thread somebody mentioned having to repasting the subcomponents vrm and vram, everytime you remove the fans and shields.

    I have no idea what that means. Post is from May 16, 2019

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...owners-and-discussions-lounge.825828/page-142
     
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