MSI GS30 Revealed

Got the internal display working but 105 was way too buggy so reverted to 10B. Anyone got 10A?

 

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=256780.0

That user had 10B working on the internal with windows 8.1 FYI, might be worth trying to go back.

If you want to try then MSI still have the download link active for A, the link is on this cached page:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ow-4.html+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk#down-bios

 

I concur, please try 10B again but if it doesn't work then try 10A.

 

Currently on 10B. I can confirm, internal not working and don't wanna go back to 8.1.
Meanwhile, my 2nd 1440p monitor arrived. Now I got a full maxed out system.
GTX 980Ti
2xACER 1440p 25" screens
2133Mhz 16 GB HyperX Impact Modules
CPU repasted with ICD(temps 90degress -----> 790 degrees)
2x 500GB Samsung 250 EVO

 

90 to 79? Fantastic.
How about 10A?

 

will try that after a while

 

Hello! I am thinking to buy gs30 with the 980 card. Are you guys happy with the computer or do you think i should wait and buy something else? I can buy it for 2000$ with the card and dockingstation (sweden).

Do you think the cpu will work with a new gpu in the future? Iam worried that the cpu is to weak.

And the last thing.... do i need to worry about temps when iam gaming? I want my laptop to work at least 3 years (Iam worried that the heat would kill it)!

 

Wait for the refresh... where you can use the dock properly....

 

The laptop is amazing. The CPU is pretty damn powerful. Paired with a GTX 980Ti, only 30-40% of it gets used while playing almost any game(maxed out 1440p). It's a great time to get the laptop because its on a discount. Skylake offers a 5-10% boost to Haswell anyway.

 

BTW, does anyone know if a dual GPU single PCB card(TITAN Z) works in the dock?

 

it offers a boost on the pci-e lane as its pci-e 3.0 ... also the new dock is better... i'd wait

 

the other option is the new gs60 whcih will come with a egpu option due to the thunderbolt type-c port;...

 

Current GS 30 has a PCE-e 3.0 x16 dock. New dock has no PSU and relies on laptop PSU. It has no HDD slot either.

 

That's only equal to PCI-e 3.0 x4. Pascal will suffer bottleneck.

 

Where did you find that out?

 

www.google.com

 

At fkin last, internal display works and I can use the 980Ti on the internal. Long live 10A bios.

 

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Interesting!! so it might be best to buy the old dock seperately and then the new skylake laptop ? i wonder if it has the same connection at the back ???

 

Are you certain about the PSU? I have read conflicting articles, and am unsure about how true either is.
No internal: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-external-gaming-dock-aio,29274.html (but does say it supports a Titan X)
Yes internal: http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-shows-new-notebook-gaming-dock-for-GS-series.144295.0.html

Actually, looking at the noteboookcheck article, the placard says the gaming dock has its own 330W adapter, which is probably separate from the laptop one, which was 65W. That's directly from MSI.

I seem to remember that I saw one article that mentions that there is still a HDD slot, and that would make it definitely worth the wait for me, but they must have cut something to lessen the size. I'm thinking they removed the speakers, made the space tighter (and hotter), and (although I hope not) removed the HDD slot.

EDIT: This video, from a guy who (presumably) went to Computex claims that it still has a 3.5" HDD slot (at around 1:40).

 

It sounds very nice But if only 30-40% gets used while playing almost any game how can it get så hot? (the cpu) And I read --> " http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs30-review.770847" / (that you can also easily within windows create a power plan that throttles back max cpu load even just a percentage point and that alone has kept cpu under 75° even while playing ultra bf4 with gaming dock). Is it True?

 

Life saver!! guess its time to wait for the new model.... i would assume the sata 3 port will be 2.5" not 3.5"

 

Apparently, I botched up my last repaste job with IC DIamond. I am waiting for Coolab liquid ultra. Will comment on this after I repaste again.

 

The slim dock uses a 330w brick that plugs into the side using the normal 4 pin connector from the gt80.

Yes it does if you upgrade the psu.

 

I have upgraded the laptop PSU. I am running a 170W one from my previous Y500 laptop.

 

It's the PSU in the dock you need to be worried about with a dual chip card.

 

So is it possible to swap in a psu into the dock ? 170w doesn't sound like enough for a gtx 980ti ?

 

170W isn't enough.
You will need 250-300W to power up 980Ti per Nvidia.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980-ti/specifications

 

The original dock comes with a 450W PSU. That might struggle with a high end dual card GPU.

 

http://i.imgur.com/SVg4pxj.jpg[img]

330w as per this.... So confusing Lol.... So it must have an internal Psu still?

 

The original dock came with a 450W SFX unit, the new dock is coming with a 330W external notebook brick. 330W is going to be pushing it for a 980ti and notebook, even 395W with the notebook PSU is going to be close.

 

Why would they bottleneck themselves? sounds pretty silly! anyway to use an "inverter to get 400-500 watts" ? since the dock is going to stay at home and all.

 

It's 450W+170W(dock PSU+laptop PSU). I am asking for a GPU like TITAN Z. I am already powering a 980Ti with this setup.

 

apologies seamon, we are talking about the new dock.

 

I mean, upto 175W can be provided to the card through the PCI-e lanes no?

 

The laptop can't transfer power to the dock, the only thing plugging the laptop in does is remove the 65W or so that it is going to use from the equation. The GPU is powered by the dock PSU alone.

 

Ah thanks.
One more question, what temps are you getting in XTU CPU stress test and how much % thermal throttling? What paste are you using?

 

its a shame its being run by a brick... i wonder if we can pop that power connector out and feed a cable through from a desktop psu and just sit it on the desk ... lol

would be nice to see some internal shots!

 

It's power throttling in the mid 80s around 3.3ghz using liquid metal. Depending on how the dock is designed there is existing equipment letting you link two power supplies, if I get the new dock I may experiment.

 

Can you tell me which setting do I change in XTU to power throttle my CPU? Do I lower my 4 active core Multiplier?

I am done with ICD, too tough to apply. Liquid ultra should arrive next week.

 

Possible I guess but would need some heavy mods.

 

It just natively power throttles, full turbo needs about 67W which it can systain for 30 seconds before going down to 47W. At that clock and with my undervolt it hovers around the 3.3ghz area.

 

Any tips for Liquid Ultra application?

 

Do both sides, heatsink and cpu and when tightening the heatsink keep it as even as possible.

 

Before tightening the screws, make sure to secure each one of them first, then start tightening each gradually to obtain that balance.

 

You should be okay with a Titan Z since the card requires a minimum of 375W.
The 12V current rating of 42A is required.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-titan-z/specifications

 

I was actually asking for future dual GPU cards. TITAN Z costs an arm and 3 legs

 

Have you examined the stock PSU in the dock? it has two 16A 12V rails, while it may just barely meet the specs with 384W on the 12v rails combined, that assumes perfect distribution of power and you have the 12v fan to power which makes it even closer.

As such I can't recommend putting a titan-z in with the original PSU, you are just asking for trouble.

For something like the Titan-x at stock around 250W it gives a nice margin.

 

Assuming a good PSU is used then sure, and on the other side, a max load test does not mean an user will push a Titan X at 100% constantly in reality.
So technically, it may work, but other unforeseen issues can happen too.

Dual card will require a bigger Pandora box.

 

any news if the gs60 will have this connector on the new model ? im starting to lean to the first gen dock & the new skylake laptop seperately.... best of both worlds... since most days.. .you will be gaming off a monitor not the laptop...

 

The card at full stress eats around 440w:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-review,7.html

So a heavy game still goes over the ratings of the psu bearing in mind that you want to run a desktop psu at no more than 80% at full pelt you would just be asking for trouble.

So my original statement stands, if going for such a dual gpu card you would NEED to upgrade the PSU.

I'd recommend the 600w sfx PSU from silverstone for such a demanding card and ideally the soon to be released 700w platinum sfx-l unit. That would allow you to power the notebook from the dock too under high stress situations.