MSI GS60 Ghost/ Ghost Pro Thread

So I plan on buying MSI GS60 Ghost-003 (i7/860M GTX), I understand that there's a youtube video on audio. I want to know from actual owners though, when gaming do you consider the laptop to be loud?

 

Audio/loud as in speakers or fan noise?

Fan noise is quieter than the GT60/GT70 series when gaming, and in my opinion not loud, but will be louder than the G46. Idle fan speeds are faster than I'd prefer stock, but I easily fixed that with an EC mod thanks to Svet and now no longer an issue. I've asked my wife if she thinks it's loud, as she always knew when I'm gaming on the GT60, and with the GS60 she doesn't think it's loud either or comments on the noise.

If you are talking speakers, they aren't great, but are totally acceptable and greatly improved with the Sound Blaster software that is included.

 

I don't have my gs60 pro yet (on it's way) so I can't comment on behavior. However, I have seen something similar in a tablet before (nexus 7) which was caused by a loose connection of the battery. Once I opened up the tablet and plugged the cable completely in, no more issued (also added some extra padding so that the battery was snug, as before there was a tiny gap which would let it wiggle and led to the cable being loose). I'm not sure if this is related, but it might be worth making sure that your battery connection is solid.

 

I've figured that much, seeing how the intensity of the illumination on the logo is based off the settings with the brightness on the screen. Just wondering if anyone has attempted to take the logo out, if it's easy to do so or it'll cause damage to the case etc.

It's not a problem at all. It's the design of it. It is designed to light up the printing on the keys, not the surrounding. If you observe the keys which does not have the lights bleeding from the bottom, those keys do not have a FN function on it. look at F1 as well. Because of the lack of a Function Icon on the keys, they did not put the back light at the lower part of the key. As someone else mentioned, the etching on the keys will still light up as normal.

 

what about the ctrl button that is supposed to be blue but the other half is green

 

The chosen colour by this poster was blue-green.

When you're looking at the CTRL lettering on the keyboard, it will be blue-green in colour. It's just the positioning of it.

 

im the poster, n i set everything to blue

 

Sorry, can't tell from the image.

But that's what I get when I set it to blue-green.

 

Has anyone who tried this software technique have feedback on how effective it is compared to the EC flashing method?

 

Could somebody clarify for me whether or not this laptop is in stock or not? It says pre-order on the website, but I've seen a few comments that say it's in stock.

 

They're identical, since they write to the same EC registers. The only difference is that flashing actually modifies the original EC image, whereas FanControlTools/RWEverything only modify the "active copy" of it. Which you can set back to default by doing an unplugged pinhole reset.

 

Hello all, I ended up buying the GS70 and now I'm second guessing myself on the size for carrying it around daily. I'm thinking of returning it for a GS60 but this gap in the corners would probably bother me if my laptop had it. Sorry for asking this question yet again, but since there are even more people that received their laptops can any of you guys share if the same thing is happening the corners of your screen? Thank you again.

 

I have tried it. A big thank you to ti20n and Sen7inel for all their work on this issue. The quiet mode is still quite audible to me but better than default. The silent mode is great but it quickly gets past the 60C mark when browsing the web; I could probably disable flash to bring down temps but I don't want to have to do that. I sure wish they had put fans in that could run at 30% or lower.

I have a Sager NP7338 that will be here on Tuesday. I have a feeling that the GS60 may be going on eBay. It is a shame because in every other way it is fantastic. For those of us with a bit of OCD the fans can be a bit annoying it a quiet room.

 

Sorry I had not been able to report earlier, but I didn't have any chance to try your vbios until yesterday, I used the minus 75mV version, and I hope MSI and Nvidia are reading this because it was a success!

Max temp reached by the GPU is 83 degrees, and AB doesn't report any throttling bellow 967MHz, the card is permanently locked at max boost frequency!

You sir are a genius!

 

My GS60 Ghost Pro 052 does not have that large of a gap at all. The seam is there but there is absolutely no gap whatsoever, just a seam. On mine it is so small that a sheet of paper would have a hard time fitting in the seam. So, that picture you posted is not what I would consider normal.

 

That sounds very promising, i have gs70 870m and i am considering flashing the vbios. Can you try msi kombustor by clicking the K button in msi afterburner (it should be running opengl 2 - torus - 1024x768 - no aa), and send us the FPS result.
My gs70 starts with 73 fps and throttles back at 93C, and fps drops to 50-55.. if that vbios grants something above 65 all the the time. I will definitely try it.
Thanks

 

So how does the noise on the 870m compare to the 860? The performance increase is nice, but there's not much point in getting it if the noise is distracting to other people in the room when you're gaming.

 

I have not seen any reports stating that the 870 has more fan noise than the 860 machines. As far as noise my Ghost Pro with the 870 is not as loud as my girlfriends old Toshiba 17" non-gaming laptop. If there is a TV on or anything else of substance going on it's not very noticeable.

 

That's great to hear! I've been afraid to bite the bullet on the 870m for fear it was running noisier. So would you say the Pro is professional enough to take to business meetings without being distracting?

 

Sorry I was wrong. Another difference is that the EC has 3 fan profiles -- each of them gets pulled live whenever the Windows power profile changes (plugged, unplugged, and a 3rd one). So using software means you have to remember to apply the EXE again if you happen to plug or unplug. Otherwise EC defaults just get restored.

 

I found out which GS60 EC registers set the hysteresis delta for CPU and VGA fan curves, and updated my previous post above. The default is 3 degree hysteresis (the threshold going down is 3 degrees lower than the threshold going up).

Note that this cannot be set in FanControlTools Profile Editor, you have to edit the RWEverything ".rw" files directly, if you're using the software approach.

 

Just as an FYI regarding the 'I hope MSI and nVidia are reading this,' all chips are not created equal. Intel, nVidia, AMD, Qualcomm, etc need to make sure that all their chips works, but stress testing every chip of the assembly line would be far too costly and inefficient (which really means costly....it's all about profits) so instead they all set the parameters beyond worst case scenario to ensure that every chip works. This is why you can overclock and/or undervolt and why different people with the 'same' chip are able to overclock/undervolt to different amounts before things become unstable.

 

I tried clicking on the K icon but it's grayed out, do I need to download kombustor as a separate module?



OK, never mind, found how to download it, here are the results, 85 degrees max temp:

 

my gs60 has strange behavior
first battery won´t load, it report battery missing, fault battery level and so on, I can't calibrate battery it shots down alt the time..
now battery works somehow, after pinhole reset, but I can´t calibrate it still

the computer change brightnes, sett GPU on and off sometimes, go to sleep mode or shots down, all that when I put it on idle or just oppen webbrowser on google, even when powermode is sett to not go to sleep mode or adjust anything..
Fn adjustements (sound, sleep mode, brightness) sometimes doesn´t work

it is strange and weird

any ideas what to do?

I don´t expect 2000 $ system to behave like this, 2 kilo off plastic for this money should work perfekt, it sholud even wash, do vacuum cleaning and help at home for this prise

I have gap on the upper corner of the lid, like many others, even I can se LED light inside in a dark room. Is it risk that dust come in between panel and glass or led lights and panel?

 

Sounds like you may have a loose battery or something..

 

Battery is possibly bad.
Need to contact MSI for repair, unless it's DOA within returnable period with vendor.

 

returnable period with one Company in Sweden is 45 Days so I can easily return it
If it wasn´t for fantastic screen (and gtx870) I should buy some other but now I´m thinking.......
Is it possible to buy this Samsung screen separatly somewhere?

 

Unless something else is bothering you about the Gs60, it sounds like you have a defective battery connection. I think you're one of the first to have such problems with the battery. Maybe just try your luck again and return for a replacement Gs60?

As far as alternatives, they're not many thin 870m laptops out there, so choices are limited.

 

I'm having the same issue with the battery, as I posted here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/742589-msi-gs60-ghost-ghost-pro-thread-135.html#post9644384 Axel7, could you do a "powercfg --batteryreport" on the command line and post your results? My battery doesn't report a serial number nor number of cycles, which is a bit disturbing.

Yesterday I didn't experience any issues, not sure if the problem has fixed itself or if I was just lucky. I bought it Denmark, and the webshop where I bought it are not receiving a new batch of GS60 until end of May, which is a bit annoying...

 

That is the beta version, but i tried this, mine resulted 3486points but temp was 93C

Due to the reason that this benchmark is really short, GPU did not throttle back much.
It looks like it does not compromise on performance much. if i keep running it fps will probably drop down to 40ies

I tried the vbios but the id's were not identical so i did not flash it. i guess i will need to regenerate custom rom from my original.
But first, i need repaste gpu with arctic silver 5 and see what it does.

Thanks for the results.

 

A Chinese review of the GS60 2PC, which seems to be their version of the 1080p 860m model but with 8 GB RAM and a N1202 wifi card (no AC). Once again, use Google translate or Chrome.

MSI GS60 2PC-010CN 评测 - 笔记本|Notebook - Chiphell - 分享与交流用户体验的最佳平台 - Powered by Discuz!

- They get a backpack and mouse with the laptop in China.
- Includes a pic of the dragon logo when backlit (p. 6), if you're wondering what that looks like.
- They post a CIE chart (p. 7). 95% sRGB, 78% Adobe RGB. For those of us worried about color reproduction, it looks like the screen is about 95% sRGB, but in a good way. It doesn't fall short at any of the three corners of the sRGB color space. It exceeds sRGB at the green end, and the missing 5% is a sliver at the bottom of the blue-red edge of the triangle. So basically it's a touch weak at magenta.
- Backlight uniformity and viewing angle tests (p. 7).
- Delta-E is 2.22 average (4.70 max), which is very good. So maybe the Russian review did something wrong.
- Temperatures at load CPU=81 C, GPU = 79 C.
- Max noise measured 15 cm in front of laptop (same as Notebookcheck) is 47 dB.
- Battery life 0:47 gaming, 2:36 watching a movie.

 

Just finished playing battlefield 4 for 30 minutes. I checked the temperatures and they are a lot higher than i would expect. My computer also got re-pasted with IC diamond. Is this normal or should i be worried?

860m version, expected it to be below 85 degrees with ic diamond...

 

I can't find any software to view the 870m bios. I noticed someone couldn't flash the undervolt bios because of they didn't match. How do we edit our own extracted vbios?

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Invalid parameters, have you another command?
maybe we who byued Scandinavian version get wrong battery I am in Sweden, just over the bridge...

 

In answer to my own question you can tweak your own extracted bios's using the following software:

Kepler Bios Tweaker - Guru3D.com Forums

Use GPU-Z to extract your VBios

 

Thanks for the link - the review seems overall positive. Great pictures, too.

 

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS POST! And thanks to google for translating for me

 

Where can I find the Nvidia GTX870m driver? I cant seem to find it on the MSI or Nvidia website.

EDIT:

I guess I shouldve checked the stuff in the box first for a driver DVD....

 

Just received my GS60 Pro a bit ago. I'm shocked at how much bloatware an expensive computer like this has... My Sager barely had any 3 years ago. Instead of screwing around trying to do a clean install I'm just going to remove the bloat, already removed Norton... Now creating a recover USB Drive per MSI's BurnRecovery.exe

I notice there is blurry text and stuff here and there... Don't know if that is due to the annoying optimus stuff or not, almost wondering if I can just turn that off and say always use the nVidia GPU. But I'll have to solve that issue already I guess, may just need to do the windows font set up but it is all over the place. Normally when I see that on a monitor I make it auto calibrate, can't really do that on a laptop.

 

I thought the only bloatware was Norton. Optimus is a great bit of software for saving battery. Not sure what you mean by blurry text.

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The blurry text could be because of Windows Text Scaling

1. In Control Panel, click Appearance And Personalization.

2. Under the Display heading, click Make Text And Other Items Larger Or Smaller.

3. Check what its at and select 100% if not.

 

I have flashed msi's updated vbios (updated on 2014-04-29), have not seen much difference, yet. Still same 20%-30% performance loss at 93C.
I compared both roms with the tool in your link. The settings were identical, only difference was the bios version and checksum values.
I believe that tool is still experimental (voltages listed are not reliable and you can't offset voltages, it just changes to a fixed value), i am looking for a better alternative to it.
If there is any, please keep it posted here.
thanks

 

There are some differences on the voltage on the CSL states further down the list. I'm guessing this can't be the tool which was used because the values that were changed were too random. Slvet over at the MSI forums has some software but apparently it doesn't support the 800 series.

We need some tips from Sen7inel on how he managed it. I've sent him a PM.

 

Exactly, i checked svet's tool it does not support 800, and PM Sen7inel as well.
MSI should supply a slightly lower-voltaged vbios. I assume that they dont wanna risk it. But we cant benefit from 870m with stock configration.

For my case, i am able to run it as a 860m when it hits 92C, due to the fact that it underclocks and overclocks itself continuously (which may be harmful in long term).
Cooling system of GS60/70 is not capable of handling 870m... at least on stock configuration.

 

You might need to go back a few pages. I know I saw one of this posts that said that it works for 870m but not to try to use it for the 860m

 

Thanks! Looks like Windows 8 pulled my tablet's settings even though I said NOT too lol... Really bugged me that it didn't list my other Windows 8 laptop in the settings sync list during setup.

 

I I've just noticed it was you fdapp that couldn't flash the modded vbios. You have a gs70 not a GS60.
I'm still interested to know how we can adjust the voltages ourselves as I'd like to find a happy medium between a slight overclock and a nice undervolt.

 

Regarding the blurry text, make sure all font scaling is at 100%

 

There is a bit more to it than adjusting voltages, I'd release more versions if there is demand for it. As for overclocking, I'm working on a "performance" vbios as we speak...

 

I can transpose all my GS60 vbios settings to a stock GS70 rom, but will have no way to test obviously. Stay tuned.

EDIT: here it is!

View attachment GS70_870m.zip

GS70 870m owners: Use the guide located here, just replace the GS60 vbios' with the ones in the link above.

Enjoy :hi2: