The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    MSI GS60 Ghost/ Ghost Pro Thread

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by GreaseMonkey90, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. exelias

    exelias Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Does anyone know if the M.2 slots accept PCIe SSDs?
     
  2. sjplatt

    sjplatt Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I have pretty much decided on the gs60 nonpro version. However I did have a question. Can I put in a ssd without voiding the warranty bc xoticpc overcharges for ssd upgrades.
     
  3. exelias

    exelias Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I've heard that end user upgrades do not void the warranty, bur someone should confirm this.
     
  4. Bok^2

    Bok^2 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    As long as you dont break something while upgrading the warrenty will still be honoured. Also keep in mind that the ssd slots are m.2 sata which are a little harder to find and therefore are more expensive. U can get a crucial m550 off of amazon (curiously out of stock only on 256gb) at a reasonable price.
     
  5. spoofy

    spoofy Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    870


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  6. shempmalone

    shempmalone Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    11
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Could somebody from Xotic, Gentech, or HIDEvolution chime in here? When you do your customization changing the color of the lid light, is it possible for you to just remove the stupid shield emblem or black it out with a Sharpie or something? I really want to get a Ghost Pro 3K but I can't see taking it into a business meeting with that "Gaming G Series" thing on it.
     
  7. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    There is one ssd slot that isnt m.2 but you would have to replace the 1tb 7200 rpm mechanical drive that is in there. It's probably one of the easier upgrades as you dont need to remove everything to get to it.
     
  8. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I just asked them yesterday and they said they could paint it.. but its pretty much just painting the whole surface so its one color... but the raised logo shape would still be there.. I think thats weird if you ask me, but yeah, if you painted it black or something it prob would be hard to notice.
     
    shempmalone likes this.
  9. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    yeah... I've been a little obsessed with this laptop the past few weeks, trying to figure out if i should get it or which version I should get... I think ive decided that im gonna get the regular pro 1920x1080 version... hopefully it isnt too loud or hot and hopefully there arent any manufacture problems with it......... knock on wood
     
  10. sjplatt

    sjplatt Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Amazon.com: Crucial M550 512GB SATA M.2 Type 2280 Internal Solid State Drive CT512M550SSD4: Computers & Accessories

    Is it that one ^^^.

    Also, how difficult would it be to remove all the stuff necessary to get to the m.2 sata ports? I have heard that you have to break some warranty tape to get to them? Can anyone that has changed the SSD confirm this?
     
  11. exelias

    exelias Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    It involves removing the motherboard. The M.2 slots are on the opposite side.
     
  12. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    We havent found a good way to remove the emblem. A custom wrap has been the only solution we've found so far.
     
  13. backfire

    backfire Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Did the people who complained about the wi-fi issues many pages back find a solution to it then? I gather setting the transmit to Medium helped some people, but it sounds like the driver wasn't much help?
     
  14. Svegetto

    Svegetto Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    35
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    140
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Just got to play some Titanfall (I know it's not the most demanding game). With all the settings maxed except AA disabled, it was 60fps the entire time. Everything maxed (including AA) dropped the fps to ~30-40. The cpu and gpu both maxed out at 75C (about an hour worth of playing).
     
  15. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The wifi is something I'll have to look into. Another thing I'm not a fan of is the LEDs on the keyboard won't go white. Only very light baby blue.
    Other than that. This thing is a monster!
     
  16. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    7,361
    Messages:
    4,586
    Likes Received:
    839
    Trophy Points:
    181
    You can't remove it since the emblem since it's part of the A panel. if it's removed then the screen will be naked

    It will accept however, it will still perform at SATA 3 speed only since the slot is not hard wired to PCIe.

    Try a newer router, I had to do the same replace my router at home in order for AC 7260 to work properly.
     
  17. Kazoul

    Kazoul Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I upgraded yesterday my GS60 (non-pro version) with latest EC and VBIOS from msi, but for my case, it seems there is no difference at all than before..
    Noise is the same level when playing heavy games and idle is the same also. Performance is the same also with the new vbios file.
    Looks like it's more efficient on the GS60 pro version (with the gtx470) then.
     
  18. backfire

    backfire Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Anyone with the wi-fi issues tried the drivers direct from Intel? They seem to think they've fixed things:

    See here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3714&DwnldID=23865
     
    inc77 and mardon like this.
  19. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    I was playing with the laptop on a cooler last night. Today when using the laptop on my desk in work Crysis 3 got up to 92C but didn't throttle with the - 75mV bios. Think I'll repaste at the weekend once I know everything else is working OK
     
  20. Sen7inel

    Sen7inel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Stock vbios varies gpu clock speed quite a bit, mine is much better at holding a steady 967mhz, or stock 870m "boost speed" if you will.
     
  21. Sen7inel

    Sen7inel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    41
    I'm glad you were able to unbrick, but didn't I say to use, and even link to a specific DOS version of NVflash?
     
    Tyresian likes this.
  22. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sen7inel do you use - 75 or have you gone even lower?
     
  23. Sen7inel

    Sen7inel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    41
    I have a -87mV version, but it was not stable for me, will PM you to try if you wish
     
  24. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yes please mate. I can OC a little. Are you getting over 90c on some games still?
     
  25. soloris

    soloris Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hello,

    Is the crucial m550 M.2 compatible with the GS60 ghost pro?

    Thank you in advance.
     
  26. hitzgut

    hitzgut Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Hey Mardon did you get your free watch dog game and laptop case as well? I have just ordered from Overclockers UK using DPD next day so hopefully if all goes well I should receive it tomorrow, apparently they only ordered 100 from MSi and already had 20 pre-orders according to their forums.

    I decided on the top model as I don't want to lift the motherboard out to upgrade those components, but I dont mind upgrading the easy to access components eg battery and HDD. So I wanted to make sure all slots available (2 msata and 2 RAM slots) in my laptop are all used up for future proofing. My guess is in about 2-3 years time I probably would swap out the 1tb for an SSD when prices become even better and buy a replacement battery depending on how well it lasts.

    On another note I believe idle noise is only an issue if you make it an issue, but when gaming I don't mind the fans ramping up, at least I know it's keeping my GPU cool so it will last longer.
    However, I do agree that in idle such a high fan speed is unnecessary and should be toned down. Hopefully Msi will read this forum and give us the necessary updates :)
     
  27. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yeah I got the voucher code and activated. Make sure you do it straight away as it expires at the end of the month if you don't use it.
    I ordered mine after 5pm and it still came next day with DPD enjoy!
     
  28. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I wonder if next day shipping is better for the laptop.. I'm unsure of the free 7 day shipping... 7 days of the box getting tossed around from ups station to ups station has me wonder if I should spend the 60 bucks to get 3 day or something..
     
  29. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Should have no problems with that.
     
  30. jonti

    jonti Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Regarding Wi Fi, I upgraded as per earlier post from here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=23865 and was still getting about half the speed I expected. Had a quick look in the advanced settings for the dual band 7260 and saw a preferred band setting which was set to no preference, I changed that to prefer 5.2 and my download speed jumped up to about 27Mb instead of 12. I know everyone seems to have a different story about how they solved it but thought i'd share in case it helps someone else
     
    mardon likes this.
  31. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Maybe i'm going blind here but where are the settings?
    I'm in "Control Panel - Network & Internet" and I can see Intel ProSet/Wireless Tools but there is not settings section.

    EDIT - Nevermind I found it, its in device manager.
     
  32. hitzgut

    hitzgut Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Thanks again to the heads up, i received the game straight away via email anyway so i will be activating when i get my laptop tomorrow.
     
  33. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    You can install it now, you can't install it get anyway it just registers to your account. You get a code from Overclockers which you then give to Nvidia who then give you a new code you have to activate via Ubisoft. Its a few hoops to jump through but will hopefully be worth it.
     
  34. John566

    John566 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Some people are more sensitive to fan noises than others. I don't think it makes any sense to say that we are making it an issue. While it may not be an issue to some it is most definitely an issue to others. It is the only reason I will be selling mine and keeping my new Razor 14.
     
  35. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

    Reputations:
    1,460
    Messages:
    2,631
    Likes Received:
    306
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I'll install the new BIOS and EC files from MSI now, curious to see how they compare. I'll report back if the fan table has changed and if so I'll post a screenshot using Svet's tool.
     
  36. Sen7inel

    Sen7inel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    41
    It was disappointing to have MSI not address the overly aggressive cpu idle fan profile in their EC update. On the other hand, the gpu fan profile was overly lethargic, I found the 91% gpu fan duty cycle up to a blistering 94C unacceptable.



    So, I made my own :p

    Using the official MSI v504 firmware update as a base, I performed the following modifications:

    1. Lowered the 0-46C cpu fan speed duty cycle from 48 to 43% (translates to roughly 300rpm less)

    2. Increased the 85-89C gpu fan speed duty cycle from 91 to 95%

    3. Increased the 90-94C gpu fan speed duty cycle from 91 to 98%

    That's it.



    I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BREAK YOUR LAPTOP USING MY EC PATCH OR FOLLOWING THIS PROCEDURE. DO NOT PROCEED IF YOU'RE NOT COMPUTER SAVVY, DO NOT UNDERSTAND, OR ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH FLASHING THE EMBEDDED CONTROLLER.

    * * * THIS WAS TESTED WITH THE GS60 PRO ONLY, THIS IS UNTESTED WITH THE NON-PRO 860M EQUIPPED GS60 * * *

    You'll need:

    1. Official MSI version 504 firmware update
    2. My modified EC firmware View attachment 16H2EMS1.zip
    3. MSI EC update guide

    Instructions:

    1. Download & extract official MSI version 504 firmware update as well as my modified EC firmware.

    2. Take my modified file 16H2EMS1.504, and copy it over the original file in the official update (don't forget to unzip!).

    3. Follow instructions per MSI EC update guide to complete the procedure!

    Enjoy a quieter laptop during web browsing/light computing and lower temperatures while gaming :hi2:

    Big thanks goes to ti20n for the fan profile register information!
     
    Shellium, Tyresian, inc77 and 2 others like this.
  37. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I can't wait to read your findings... Fingers Crossed that theyre good.
     
  38. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

    Reputations:
    1,460
    Messages:
    2,631
    Likes Received:
    306
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Whelp, doesn't look like MSI changed the base CPU fan speed, as after flashing I'm back up to 2900rpm instead of my Svet Tool modified 2580 I'm been using the past few weeks... Here's the MSI table based on the latest 504 EC file just released:

    EDIT: Doesn't appear they changed any fan speeds/temps at all upon further review.

    GS60_MSI_EC504TABLE.PNG

    Will definitely be changing back to 43% as I posted previously in my last pic. Works great.

    On different news, Svet's tool now supports the 860m in the GS60 for modifying the vBIOS for those interested:

    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148273.1000

    Version has been updated [ 2.76u ==> 2.77v ]:

    Changes:

    * Add support GTX 860M (Maxwell based 860M are not supported)
    -Support voltage adjust for P0, P1,P5, P8
    -Support higher clock's voltage adjust
    -Support memory clock adjust for P0, P1, P5, P8
    -Support Maximum Boost Frequency adjust [Auto adjust for P0, P1]
    -Support Boost table Frequency adjust
    -Support Essential Domain 1 Frequency adjust
    -Support Essential Domain 2 Frequency adjust
    -Support Essential Domain 3 Frequency adjust
    -Support Software GPU core OC Limit removal
    -Support GPU Boost logic Enable/Disable
    -Support P-State Terminator [ability to Disable/Enable desired P-state(P0,P1,P5,P8)]
     
  39. chris_laptopfan

    chris_laptopfan Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    102
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Oh man! Are you serious?? :(
    92 °C with an -75mV undervolt? :confused: How is this even possible? I was hoping the undervolt would eliminate these high temps and delivering max. mid 80s... :(
     
  40. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I think you need to underclock if you want to reduce the temps
     
  41. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    With the new fan profile and -75 i'm at 90C thats on fire strike in the demo version where it makes you watch all the other demo's. I've never seen it that high gaming.
     
  42. chris_laptopfan

    chris_laptopfan Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    102
    Messages:
    184
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Besides Crysis 3 as you wrote...
    Or did the new fan profile change the temps..?
     
  43. Sen7inel

    Sen7inel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    41
    I can confirm no fan table changes in the new EC, it's something I thought they would rectify. It's the primary reason why I created a custom EC.
     
  44. Tyresian

    Tyresian Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    58
    Messages:
    147
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Anyone have a walkthrough to upgrade the RAM? I did an SSD install before but now I have to remove the motherboard and need an idea of which screw and connectors I need to remove or if anyone has a link to a maintenance manual that'd be great.

    Need to get this 2133 RAM in.
     
  45. mardon

    mardon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    127
    Messages:
    920
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sorry since adding the fan. Although I've not been playing very long. Just trying a variety of different games.
    I think I'm still gonna repaste. Lifting the back of the notebook up helps a little as well.
     
  46. Sen7inel

    Sen7inel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Latest Cryengine-based games run almost as hot as some artificial benchmarks. As far as games are concerned, I'd call it worst case scenario.
     
  47. Funkyfrenchie

    Funkyfrenchie Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Finally decided to send it back.
    3 mains reasons
    - noise
    - build quality (touchpad died, screen gap)
    - heat

    I really wanted to like it but compared to the razor blade or a MacBook Pro it is clearly inferior.

    Performance top notch.

    I can't wait for a MacBook Pro to adopt these new gpus.

    Really


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  48. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

    Reputations:
    1,460
    Messages:
    2,631
    Likes Received:
    306
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I'd concur, dang Blood Dragon is the hottest game I've ever played on any machine!
     
  49. OrangeCoffeeMug

    OrangeCoffeeMug Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    MacBook Pro will probably never have an 870m and above gpu.. These cards are for gamers.. MacBook Pros are more for cunsumers and production. There isn't a reason for them to put something more powerful in them.. Thats why theyve never had any gpu faster than the 650,750 and probably 850 series.
     
  50. backfire

    backfire Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Yeah, MacBook Pros are increasingly moving towards integrated graphics since Intel's graphics are getting increasingly better. In fact, currently all you can get is a 750M on the top-end 15" model, and that is debatably worse than the integrated graphics at some things!
     
← Previous pageNext page →