MSI GS60 Ghost/ Ghost Pro Thread

So we go back to my original gut feeling. Since MSI are having both 860m and 870m versions they went with kepler so they could use the same motherboard for each.

 

Doesn't look promising, unfortunately.
I'm with you though if it doesn't come with Maxwell SKU's might as well go all in with the Kepler 870M, it seems less and less likely the GS60 is going to be a good fit for what I'm looking for and I'm bummed out about that

 

You done with recording your review ? Can't wait to watch it .

 

My thoughts exactly... if we are stuck with Kepler, might as well be the faster option

 

Seriously, it's a blessing in disguise. Especially with how cool it runs with the 860. Yeah the 870 will probably run hotter but the gs60s chassis seems to have great ventilation I can't wait to see (if they do release it that is.) how well the gs60 runs with an 870m

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I really hope a version with the 870M w/ 3K res gets stateside and the reviews go well. I'm in the market for a new lighter laptop before summer and the GS60 has been calling my name.

 

Why such an old version of gpu-z?

 

If I buy this laptop I doubt I2ll go with the 3K screen. Scaling of windows 8 is told to be very bad and most of the content I'll watch on the laptop will be 1080p (at least certainly not 3K) so it will look worse on the 3K screen than a regular 1080p. And the gtx 870m won't be able to play games at 3K. Also since its resolution is not an integer multiplier of a standart resolution(for example razerblade has 3200*1800=1600*2*900*2) the games will actually look worse. So what's the benefit of 3K? The downside is the price and mostly upscaled content. Please consider these facts when you decide to go for a 3K screen.

 

If I hadn't picked up a Gigabyte p35k a few months ago I probably would have gone with this laptop. 3K screen is great for productivity, it's like having dual-monitors on all the time and approaching retina display levels is amazing for reading small text. But I agree that 3k gaming isn't worth it, the performance drop per gain in crispness isn't worth it. Although since you can scale 1:2 at 1600x900 you shouldn't have to worry about odd scaling issues. If you went to 1080p it'd look weird but 1600x900 is just fine on a 3k screen and you'd possibly be able to do 3D at some point.

 

I got a 1080p 13'' screen and i found myself magnifying web sites a lot. So the text will be too small with 3K screen for that screen size at least for my eyes . And my point in my comment was that you can't scale 1:2 at 1600x900 because gs60 has an odd resolution( I don't remember exactly but it's sth like 2880x1640)

 

One thing for sure, EVERYTHING can be subject to change. Perhaps, I should amend my statement to read, 'The GS60 2PE is slated for overseas markets, at this time'. For those desiring this model, I would like to see everyone getting what they want. The reality though, is manufacturers often configure different SKU's, destined for different global locales. Actually, in regard to temps and 3K displays, I am not convinced the GS60 2PE will fully meet expectations, and I wonder if the 870M is not pushing-the-envelope, for such a compact, slim & sexy package. On the other hand however, currently things are looking pretty impressive for the 860M models, and as Ken points out, the Kepler/Maxwell argument is somewhat a moot point.

 

Viewing angles are excellent. I've attached some images (don't know if they really help or prove anything), but both text and images remain sharp with the screen fully opened (~135 degrees) and also at a ~45 degree angle.

 

Hi guys. Sorry if this is a basic question but I dont get these M.2 sockets. Can I use standard mSata ssds in there? Seems the m.2 form factor drives are still few and far between and expensive. But if I were to use mSata, how are they bolted down?

Looks like a really nice rig.

Ernie

 

If there is to be any constant in the known universe, it is change. I understand that an SKU hasn't been created or publicized for the U.S. market.. yet. I am hopeful that it will be, before that I will be awaiting the reviews from people who are in the first batch markets. I'm hopeful for decent frame rates without it sounding like a jet engine. I like the portability factor, but I am also looking for productivity and I love screen real estate. I'm also thinking about the razor, but I'd like to see the reviews for the Ghost Pro with 3K screen and 870M chip first.

 

Just got word that the GS60 Pro P2E Model (GTX 870m) shipments have been delayed in Australia.

We have quite a few online retailers who have been accepting pre-orders for it.

I'm trying to nail down choice for new laptop - GS60 P2E, GS60 P2C, GS70 P2E they all look good!

Wish there was a review of the temperatures on the 870 in the GS60 I'm just not sure it will be able to handle it.

Also does anyone have any information on the screen used in the GS70? Is it a TN panel?

The website doesn't advertise the 17'' as wide viewing angle which sort of indicates its a poor display, I do alot of graphic work so colour gamut is important to me as well.

 

M.2 and mSATA are different form factors (like 1.8" and 2.5" drives). They use a different connectors and have the mounting holes for the screw to hold them in different positions (m.2 has a single screw at the end, mSATA has two screws at each corner). There are not many m.2 SSDs around yet as it is a new form factor.

The m.2 does offer 2 extra bonuses over mSATA but these are optional and depends on if the laptop has had these built into it
1) it allows for either PCIe or SATA to be used as the interface (allows greater speeds)
2) it allows for longer boards to be used (allows more flash to be fitted for larger drives)
But don't know if the GS60 allows these options (new MSI motherboards do!).

 

hi

is it ips or tn panel?

is it silent or completely silent in idle or when you just browsing web or watching youtube? can it be underwolted or underclock (maybe even adjust tdp) with Intel XTU ( to get ti complitly silent when idle)? do not try it unless you are experienced

 

Thanks. So it looks like the gs60 only allows for ONE length of m.2 - the longest (80 mm?). The future-proffing is nice but a pain to deal with right now....

Ernie

 

Thanks fishnet !
After some research, the panel in GS60 is a Samsung SDC324C with equivalent wide viewing angles to LG IPS.
So all good

 

Well, went ahead and pre-ordered one, the GS60 Ghost-003, but no idea when it will actually ship. Was torn between this and the new Razer Blade 14", but I needed a number pad on the keyboard for work productivity and didn't like the idea of being stuck with 8GB of RAM in the Razer ... not to mention saving $1000 ha :thumbsup:

I do really wish it was Maxwell, but in reality as long as the temps are well managed without sounding like a hair dryer, which it seems they are from early reports, I don't guess it will matter much in actual usage.

 

Is Gentech going to ship it on April Fool's Day?

 

The GS60 sounds nothing like a hair dryer, in normal use the fans are barely audible. During intense gaming you hear the fans more... that is if you play games on mute. A few times I gamed late with my wife asleep only a few feet away (yes I use a headset), not one complaint about noise.

 

I second this 100%. It's not exactly silent during normal use, but you're only going to (barely) hear the fans if you're in a completely quiet room. Even while gaming, I can't hear the fans over the sound of the game or over a TV playing in the background. I upgraded to the GS60 Ghost from a GE60 2OE-003US, and honestly, the fans on the GS60 under load are just as quiet (if not quieter) then the fans on the GE60 at idle.

 

I went ahead and placed an order for the 003 model from Newegg. I was hoping to see more reviews, but I need it before I head out on an extended work trip. Says packaging now. So hopefully have it before the weekend.

My main concerns are fan noise, heat, and battery life. Hopefully those aren't issues with this machine. Also is there any more word on the M.2 SSD? I would consider upgrading that, but saw there are different sizes of the M.2 drives on the market.

 

thanks for the information fish.:thumbsup:

how about the battery life? when it's run fully load and normal use like office application or some wifi surfing.

 

Does anyone know when everyone else will start selling the GS60?

 

Ok, for those concerned about the Kepler/maxwell situation... Overclockers UK Forums - View Single Post - ** MSI GS60 GHOST NOW AVAILABLE & GS70 STEALTH CRACKING DEAL!! **

 

well theres a question in which country you live...
for example in Czech republic it has not been even presented what sucks (
but MSi guy told me that it will be available in April ... so hopefully in a week or 2

 

I like the size a lot but wonder how well it will really cool during gaming.

MSI GS60 2PE Ghost Pro 15.6" True HD LED GTX 870M 3GB 4700HQ, 8GB DDR3, Super-Raid, 1TB HDD - Windows 8

Features:-
- Windows 8.1
- NVIDIA GTX 870M Graphics for maximum gaming performance
- Limitless customization with Steelseries Engine
- Ready to stream with the powerful XSplit Gamecaster software
- Intelligent and efficient dual fan thermal cooling system

Specification:
- Screen Size: 15.6"
- Screen Type: LCD
- Backlight: LED
- Screen Resolution: 1920x1080
- Aspect Ratio: 16:9
- Screen Features: Full HD
- Processor Type: Intel Core i7 4700HQ
- Processor Cores: 4 (8 Threads)
- Processor Clock Speed: 2.40GHz (3.40GHz Turbo Mode)
- Hard Drive Supplied: 1 x 1000GB
- Hard Drive Size: 1000GB
- Solid State Drive: 128GB SSD x2 (RAID 0)
- Hard Drive Interface: Serial ATA-600
- Hard Drive Speed: 7200RPM
- Memory Supplied: 1x 8GB
- Memory Size: 8GB
- Memory Type: DDR3
- Memory Speed: 1600
- Memory Socket: 2 x SO-DIMM
- Max. Memory Support: 32GB
- Operating System: Windows 8
- Graphics Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M
- Graphics Memory: 3GB GDDR 5
- Chipset: Intel HM87 Express
- Audio: Sound by Dynaudio
- Speaker(s): 2 x Speakers
- Subwoofer: 1 subwoofer
- Microphone: Built-in
- LAN Card: Killer E2200 LAN
- LAN Speed: 10/100/1000
- Wireless NIC: Killer N1202 Combo (2*2, a/b/g/n)
- Bluetooth: v4.0
- USB 3.0 Port(s): 4
- HDMI Port(s): 1
- Mini Display Port(s): 2
- Microphone Jack(s): 1
- Headphone Jack(s): 1
- Line In Jack(s): 1
- Line Out Jack(s): 1
- LAN Port(s): 1
- Battery Life: 4hrs
- Card Reader: SDXC/HC
- Web Camera: HD type ( 30fps@720p)
- Only 22mm thick
- Product Weight (g): 2.6Kg (w/Battery)
- Warranty: 2 Years

 

What situation? The GS60 Ghost is equipped with the Kepler GPU. Not sure I understand your point here. Meaker posted the similarly HERE in this forum, and the matter has long been resolved.

Hi Vector,

My thought is the Kepler 870M may run a bit toasty in that model. Also I would hold-off a bit, waiting for reports to come in to see if the PA is adequate, and if it's readily throttling. My other thoughts are HERE.

 

YES!!!, have you place your pre-order?

 

Anyone found an 'azerty'-version already?

 

Yes I did. Just waiting for the news that I got suckered

 

Have you tried cyberport.de?

 

Had a nice chat with the folks from overclockers - very helpful and quick response. Unfortunately their version only come with 8GB RAM and I would prefer 16GB.

I am hoping that XMG do a de-badged version (like they did with the GS70) but no news yet...

 

Not sure if you are a native English speaker or not, but he clearly says in the latest post I quoted that it is a MAXWELL GPU, confirmed by MSI?

 

@Richdog if you read everything you'll see it will all be kepler.

 

Yes.

It has been confirmed at NBR many times that there isn't a Maxwell exist on GS60 Ghost, no evidence of GPUz screenshot and no vBIOS dump proving it's a Maxwell. in fact, all evidence with screenshots and vBIOS says it's a Kepler. Maxwell on GS60 Ghost does not exist:

Read :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/742589-msi-gs60-ghost-ghost-pro-thread-6.html#post9608864

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/742589-msi-gs60-ghost-ghost-pro-thread-6.html#post9609047

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/742589-msi-gs60-ghost-ghost-pro-thread-6.html#post9610119

There are too many rumors out there and people started rumors because lack of information. I strongly suggest double or triple check the source of information if it's 100% accurate before make comment. You see how many pages on this board we've already wasted just to talk about if it's a Maxwell or Kepler? I am pretty sure people had enough and if you don't have hard evidence then don't post it.

 

I think they only have german 'qwertz'-versions, if I'm not missing anything.

 

Ok no problem, but I figured if MSI confirmed it to him then it would be legit. Shame.

 

Meaker asked someone at MSI to confirm it was in fact Maxwell and they told him it was but it turns out it was not.

How many times have people reached out directly to the manufacture and got the wrong info in return ? About a zillion times. Now it's a zillion and one.

 

I sure hope this isn't you're idea of an April Fools joke Ken!

You wouldn't happen to know or be able to share the timeline or any other insights about its release, would you?

 

I've really only tested for battery life once. I got a little under 4.5 hours out of it while streaming music from Spotify, browsing the web and installing apps, games from Steam & system updates. Brightness was set around 25-30%, wi-fi was on the entire time, as was the keyboard backlight, and the laptop required two restarts from the different programs and updates I installed. I'm pretty confident it could've come close to 5 hours (if not more) if I had cut out the game installs...downloading & installing from Steam really seemed to take a toll on the battery.

 

Sounds promising

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So I am pretty interested in the 2PE version with HD screen and 870m. The thing is, I have a desktop but it's a few years old, and has a 6 year old graphics card. I don't game much these days, but I like the ability to be able to game from time to time.

I could just buy a new graphics card, but I really want to move to a notebook, so I can be more flexible in where I do my work and studying. However, the thing is currently my "TV" is my U2711 Dell 27" monitor with 2560x1440 resolution. So when I want to game, I will want to do it on that. Later on I will just buy a new graphics card, and maybe update my desktop, but I can't justify that by itself as I barely use my desktop as anything other than a media device.

Do people think the 870m could handle the 2560x1440 rez and still run decently for most games? Maybe not on ultra, but at least high'ish settings? For me that would be enough for the moment.

I will also be waiting for reviews on the 2PE version to see how it fares heat wise, but I'm guessing no review will address my question directly.

 

Thoth21,

Yes it should be able to run that monitor at native res with graphics set to high. Now there is no guarantee that you won't have to turn down anti-aliasing and reduce shadows.

But on native 1080p it seems to boost easily above 40fps on the most recent games, so you should be able to run at least 30fps on all else (if you get the 3k screen you will have to reduce res, as the game won't perform as well)

 

Huh?

LOL! Ain't that the truth Brother, and how many time have we seen someone continue to perpetuate that bad information, because they failed to have a full understanding of the situation..... but I'm really not sure what any of this has to do with being, 'native English' speaking. BUT, no problem though, all is forgiven, and I'm sure lessons have been learned.

 

The final nail in the coffin are the motherboard shots showing a gk104 die and two blank spots for vram

MSI got their wires crossed a little, nvidia's naming did not help.

 

LOL! I have felt from day one, designating two different GPU's, as one in the same, is big a mistake..... and I feel. the leading recipe for confusion.

(John McClane's voice is in my head, saying, "Welcome to the party, PAL!")

 

I also thought it would have been odd for msi to have two gs60 motherboard versions, this way they both use the same pcb.