MSI GT627 (1651), works with FX 3700m (full clocks).

From the photo it looks like someone has reballed it (red stuff around GPU and vram, forgot what it's called, sign of reballing).

 

Thanks for the link niffreacture, but 512mb is not enough for me... Anyway, what kind of card is that? Why is he giving a price without knowing what card it is lol

 

Well if someone reballed it then it definitely wasn't cyberinfinity, they obviously don't know what they're doing.
They won them at an auction in texas.
I don't think they are reballed. I have seen others like it. They are made for HP by a company called orion for the HDX dragon. Another company called artemis made their MXM 2.1 II cards. They all do things differently.

Anyway if they were actually reballed, not reflowed, then they're probably better than they were before...

BTW moral it looks like we have a bit of a following

NVidia Quadro FX 3700M MXM 2.1 III Work as a GTX 280M - eBay (item 150555563582 end time Feb-27-11 21:09:11 PST)

It pisses me off but I guess its kind of cool too... just a weird thing for them to be marketing...

 

Yeah you may be right about it not being reballed, I could have swore that I saw something that looked just the same as that in some reballing site, maybe they just use the same glue (or whatever that red stuff is).

EDIT: Might be called underfill (electrically-insulating adhesive)

 

Why does every card that guy sell have that same red underfill?
ATI Radeon 256MB MXM III Laptop Video Card - eBay (item 370459578510 end time Jan-30-11 18:47:31 PST)

I really think something is a bit sus...

...not saying he reballed them, but maybe the person that put them in the auction did.

 

....and that backplate with the nuts?

Its because its also for the HP HDX dragon. Pretty sure.

 

Ok, I didn't notice the backplate, well guess you are right then.

 

Hi, I have an m15x and wanted to replace my dead card with a gtx280m, but everywhere I look the prices are pretty high.

So I thought I might as well just go for a fx3700m.
I saw this on ebay aswell as the one mentioned above by niffcreature:
NVidia Quadro FX3700M FX 3700M 1GB Video Card HP 8730W - eBay (item 150555148395 end time Feb-26-11 20:53:38 PST)

I have read the threads and it seems that fx3700m has differences among them.
So I was wondering if this one, which it says is a Lenovo part (but has the .05 bios), can be flashed with a gtx280m bios.

If not, should I be looking for an HP .10 bios or what exactly should I look for.

Also I realize its going to be quite a hot card, so I was intending to do a copper mod on it like some one did on a gtx280 on another thread to keep it running cooler.

 

Oh and I forgot, would the hdmi port happen to work would anyone know, cause on the mxm upgrade site they say that the cards they sell dont have hdmi working,

Thanks

 

I'm guessing you would need to flash the vbios from the dead card onto the 3700m to get HDMI working.

 

Is it better to undervolt & overclock or overvolt and overclock?
I've got mine overclocked @ 575/1500/1020

 

Ok well I had a 8700m gt before, im guessing that would not be very useful to flash onto the 3700m.

Dont use hdmi much, just a perk if it would work also.
So I would be better off flashing a gtx280m bios on it for performance?

 

Set the voltage as low as possible, but always check is 100% stable in the worst situation.

 

I couldn't get it stable on any lower than the stock voltages, so instead i upped them and that seems to have done the trick, tested @ 280m clocks 583/950/1450 with crysis, warhead & bfbc2 and no probs sofar.

 

I've worked with dozens of these cards and about 5 different types so here are the answers to your questions.

-The only version that can be flashed to a 280m is HP and has a BIOS sticker ending in .10. The gtx 280m vbios does not increase performance in any way that drivers could not already change in nearly all cases.

-The only 3700m cards that can truly be overvolted are made by Lenovo for the w700. These cards can be overvolted from 1.03v stock to 1.06v and they run MUCH hotter, its very noticeable. These cards also cannot be undervolted to anything other than the 3d & 2d voltages.

-The HP cards are not possible to overvolt with software. The 1.05v mode in nibitor does not actually affect the voltage IC on the card which does not seem to have a mode higher than 1.03v. It does seem to add stability at higher clocks which to be honest none of us have figured out. They do have a 1v mode which I've found to be stable at around 500/1250mhz clocks.

In general these cards do not overclock well and run hot. If you have a high performance overclocked card that scores nearly the same as this card at stock then there's not much reason to get one at all... unless you have extremely good cooling and power in your notebook, in which case you should get a Lenovo card only and overvolt it.

In general I think the Lenovo cards are a lot better, not many of the HP ones have 900mhz vram chips, and the Lenovo cards I have had will run at 600/1500 stock voltages stable.

 

Good to know.
Thanks for the info.

 

One of my friends told me that he has got a Lenovo version. So, can it run with stock clocks and no artifacts in my GT628? I don't want to overclock it, just to run without crashing and overheating.

I can just put in the card install the specific driver and go, or I need to do something else?

 

You can install laptopvideo2go drivers and mod the INF to gtx 280m.
Other than that it doesn't matter and yes it should run at 280m stock clocks but it might still run pretty hot.
I would use some ramsinks on your heatsink and clock the vram at 900mhz

 

I mean on the stock Fx clocks, not on the higher clocks of the Gtx.

 

I manged to add 1.05v to my hp .10 bios and in gpu-z it says v1.05v, my overclock is working better now, went from 583/950/1463 > 600/990/1493, going up 10MHz a time, will see if I can reach 285 clocks, not far to go.

Load temp 59*c
Idle temp 35-36*c

 

Those are 285m clocks.
Just lower the core a little and set the shaders to 1500.
I think you should lower the vRAM back to 950 or 900 and you will be able to get 600/1500 easy.

 

Hmm, not sure about that.

I can make GPUz say anything I want (since you can change the labels of the VIDs in nibitor) but that doesn't mean you actually get that voltage.

But I had the same results as you when I did it (which doesn't make sense).
How can a cosmetic change give you a higher OC


Looks like niffcreature already mentioned it:

 

I think your right about the voltage reading in gpu-z because aida64 reads it as 1.03v. Still it must do something because it reaches the higher clocks now.

 

My hypothesis is that the bios basically force the card to use the maximum voltage available and stay there. Like hitting the rev limits on your car's engine and keeping it there wringing every last ounce of power you can get out of it.

 

So my friend lend me the card for the weekend for testing. What should I do to work on the default clocks? I have a GT628 and the card is from a W700. I need to flash it? Because he need the card on the next week in his Lenovo.

 

I dont think you need to flash it.

You might need to re-install windows if you're stuck at low clocks (another person had this problem with the 3700m and a clean install fixed it).

 

Reinstall? Oh... I've got ~140GB on my HDD. I'll try to avoid the reinstall procedure. But on msi's sometimes need a fresh install. For example when I swap the 8400m gs to a 9500m gs in an EX700 I also need a fresh install.

Let's try this out.

 

Are you interested in overclocking your FSB?
I can try to help you get Setpll working:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...clocking-methods-examples-84.html#post7153216

 

No thanks. I'm cool with the solid 2.8GHz stable OC. But when the bigger vga will be inside I'll get back to the stock clocks to normalize the heat problem.

 

You can create a backup of your drive (I use DriveClone Pro 7 for that, but there are many other programs), reinstall Windows, test the card during the weekend and restore the backup once you're done.

 

Is this program works with an external hard drive?

 

Yes it does.

 

Great! I'll try it if I need a reinstall.

 

Hi there. I've got the card. Installed fine, than i need to reinstall the windows and get the new Performance drivers from nVidia's site. The card works well on stock clock's but my system gets hotter a bit. Still benchmarking now.

 

whenever you done, will u post your temp on idle and full load please ?

 

Uh. I'm forget this topic... Sorry. But if I have some luck I can buy a Quadro this week. Then I'll post every info about the card and the change procedure.

edit: which one is the best combination? Q9200+Quadro or X9100 OC+Quadro?
Use for mostly gaming with these: Left4Dead2, Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer, GTA4, Brink and I'm looking forward to BF3...

 

I'd stick to the quad.
BTW how's that USB 3.0 adpater working?

 

It works well. Just need a usb3 driver. Transfer rates with a WDCaviarGreen 7200RPM, 64MB cache HDD in a usb3.0 case: read ~80-90MB/s write ~50-60mb/s. I think its very good for this chineese stuff.

 

With the Quadro, will the HDMI work?

 

HDMI is working for me (have to use it since my internal screen doesn't work at all anymore). No sound through hdmi.

 

No sound? Maybe I can live without it...

 

this is a serious killa...

 

I changed my mind and I won't buy it. I don't want to spend any more $ on this notebook. It's already an old boy. Use it with this config. and searching for a cheap or used alternative with i5/i7.

 

It might be an old boy, but mine can still keep up with my friends brand new Deviltech and Allienwares (except for the graphics).

 

If someone buy it, I will be happy. If not I will be happy too, because its a great machine what gave me a lots of fun. But I don't want to spend more money on it.

 

hi, I am upgrading my gx620, i've the heatsink of the gt627, and im buying a x9100 cpu and this graphic card...
which u recommend me? the lenovo or the HP card.
Probably i dont overclock too much and i prefer the most stable and cooler version.
and one question more, where can i found the back plate if the card doesn't have?

 

You want the HP card.

If you aren't willing to do cooling mods its a good idea to undervolt and underclock the card. The .03v adds a lot of heat and the card can run stable at 1v with only slightly lower clocks of 530/1300.

For the backplate, you can replace the screws with smaller ones like LCD screws but longer, and use springs or washers.
But it is kind of a pain to get the screws off and do this.

I have the correct type of backplate. I will sell you one if you're interested.

 

Thanks for your response niffcreature and i'll be in contact with you if i need a backplate.
I've one question more... will the 3700m 0.10 of hp with the bios of gtx 280m be fine?

I've spoken to the sat of msi and they can send me the heatsink of gt627 with my gx620 serial number. I've deleted the previous message. sorry for the inconvenience.

 

280m AND 260m vBIOS will work fine, but no real performance gain. Easier to keep the .10 vbios for HDMI issues.

 

Hey guys - I just got an fx3700m pulled from a lenovo w700.

I popped it into my ms1722 with a gt725 heatsink and I got windows up but am having issues and need some advice. So far I have not made any changes to clocks or voltage settings.

I got drivers from laptopvideo2go.com (ver. 275.50 with modded inf file) - They installed and card is reading as a 3700m. It is bluescreening on me before I can try and lower/raise voltage or other troubleshooting.

I was able to have the card run a bit longer with another version of driver but bluescreened once I launched a game to test. I checked temps with gpu-z at that time and they were stable at 48 celcius.

Do I need to flash a different bios perhaps? Will try and get a screen of the current bios version before it blues again.

Windows runs fine in safe mode and is fine if standard generic vga driver is installed vs. nvidia. (also my 1722 has the latest bios flashed)

Thanks for your help!

edit: @Moral Hazard I grabbed the vbios from your main post - do you think my symptoms warrant flashing it? Maybe this is my problem?

edit: got a pic of the bios version in standard vga driver mode:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JSsMbXMPzxv0wcm9xWQgxw?feat=directlink