MSI GT627 (1651), works with FX 3700m (full clocks).

Update - I have flashed successfully to the msi vbios provided by Moral Hazard. So far no change in behavior. Am continuing to try different drivers.

Any thoughts?

 

You flashed it to an HP .10 vBIOS?

It sounds a little like a hardware problem. You may want to reseat the card and make sure the thermal components and vRAM are being cooled properly. If you don't know what I mean, there us a likelyhood you've done something wrong.

Actually, AFAIK you are the first to try this in the ms-1722. We will have to further investigate this if there is another problem. Please keep experimenting!

 

Thanks NC,
I have lowered voltages to 1.0v and clocks by 25 and then 50mhz across the board. Little change in timing of bluescreens. Blues whenever I launch a game, and I also noticed it blued when I plugged in a high-power WiFi usb card, instantly. Isn't the usb power isolated from other components and its use shouldn't effect critial hardware?

I will reseat everything today and check to make sure the heatsink is making good contact with the chip. I can tell its warmer than the 9600m by at idle but its not that much... Not hot air coming out.. I'm wondering if my thermal sensor is one of the bad ones.. it updates onthefly but this card was pulled from a w700. Usually reads around 52 celcius. I did save the BIOS it came with b4 I flashed it.

I force flashed it to the msi (?) BIOS from the first post of this thread. I have been using it as a base to modify.

Thanks for your help!

 

I removed the heatsink and it looks like it may not be fully making contact with the chip - there is an indentation on the paster all around, but.. please take a look at the pic and tell me what you think.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JdIx9PXir-7BCIuS8uE3xLGCJ-ScC0kJ3vjsPNIKMe8?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DFARoopbs1flHdalWiaE6rGCJ-ScC0kJ3vjsPNIKMe8?feat=directlink

 

Hmm 1.0v is pretty low, no need to mess with that unless you go closer to 500/1250mhz clocks.

The BIOS posted here is an HP vBIOS I believe.

I think, in honesty your problem seems like: the AC adapter. Check the output... You really have to get more than 4a, more like 6.3a of a 19v 120w adapter... Reason it is doing this instead of tripping the adapter, probably yes because its a Lenovo card and your BIOS may be attempting weird downclocking.

If this still doesn't resolve anything, or if you want to try something else while you wait to find an adapter... Open up the original vBIOS in Nibitor (no point in using the HP vBIOS really, might as well go back to the Lenovo version) and copy the 3D clocks and voltage to Extra then reflash and see what happens when you start a game.

 

Just saw your last post... honestly the cooling seems good, and if the temps change slightly and read 48-52c then that is probably correct.

Although, one thing worth mentioning is, you need to cool those grey VRMs. The ati 4850 doesn't get as hot as this card. You can use ramsinks on them, they are the perfect size. The smaller one is more difficult, you don't want to use plain thermal tape as it can wear through and short it.
I don't think this is the cause of your problem though.

 

edit - (the standard 19v adapter did not change anything - I am still trying different clock combinations and am still getting the bluescreen result.)

Thanks for the tips Niff, I appreciate it.

I purchased a 180w Targus 19v adapter and have been using that from the start. I believe it has 9 amps. One thing I haven't done (slaps head) is try using my original adapter. That does have 6.3 amps. Going to try that now.

I did flash back to the original bios. I also tried copying the 3d clocks to the extra clocks - it still bluescreens as soon as I launch a game. Although, it seems that bluescreen would happen given enough time passing even if I didn't launch a game, like using the internet or launching gpu-z. With the lower clocks of 3d used in extra, it seems it would only bluescreen when I tried to launch a game. I dunno... should I try increasing the voltage a hair?

Currently voltage is set to 1.0v and 0.85 for the rest. PRetty much have kept to that for all testing. 1.03v was default with 0.85 for rest of course.

Do you have a recommendation on the vram heatsinks that you like to use? Agreed I don't like the thermal tape either.

 

I'm wondering if I have a bad card, or the ms-1722 just doesnt have enough power to let the fx3700m run stable.

The behavior is always the same. I have tried different versions of drivers, all types of different clocks, played with the voltage a little, both the 180w 9 amp and the 6.3 amp power suplies... it always bluescreens when I launch a game, internet explorer, gpu-z, etc.

BTW, the bluescreen is always attributed to the nvidia driver causing the issue, in case that helps.

No artifacting is occuring.

If I uninstall the driver and allow windows to detect the card and install a standard vga driver, the computer is stable, but then I have no 3-d acceleration at all of course.

Is it possible that I have a bad card? I am thinking of abandoning this project, returning the 9600m gt to service.

 

It may be the fact that you have a Lenovo card.

Lenovo cards are "special" meaning there is pretty much nothing else like them especially in terms of the board ID, but also probably in things that Lenovo has done.

This MSI is also special, the only full size card it was made to use is the ati 4850 and they made the LCD panel output proprietary somehow.

The best thing to do would be to find someone like me except who has an ms-1722. I would try lots of cards and see if they all had the issue or not.
Where are you located?
If you are able to return that 3700m, I have a lot of cards you could test & we would either get to the base of the problem or find a decent upgrade that works.

 

On rereading my post, I don't know if you should give up on your 3700m quite yet unless the return period is about to expire.

The performance modes are a pretty huge deal in some cases.
Why don't you try copying the 500/1250 clocks or whatever and voltage to 3d, then to throttle, then to 2d if you're willing to do that.

 

Will the Clevo GTX 260m work in the GT628? Or the Alienware(?) GTX260m? Because I found some on ebay and if it works, maybe I'll buy one for my laptop.

 

NO it has to be MXM 2.1 not 3.0!!!

This is what you need
http://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29873

Now go home and be happy with your 55nm card already!

 

The card what i found is an MXM 2.1 so it can be compatible.

 

Have anyone of this post bought a backplate from niffcreature? can you tell me your opinion?

sorry for offtopic.

 

I can tell you that Niffcreature is very knowledgeable and I came very close to purchasing a modified heatsink from him - ended up going with an oem part but wish I had allowed NC to make me one. I was too impatient.. lol

BTW I still have the 3700m - its sitting on my shelf, calling to me. Long past return period of course.

The best run in the ms1722 was probably 2-3 minutes running, temps were always stable but the fan was surging from low to med-hi every 5 seconds. I'm sure there is a way to put that in the bios to run steady at a certain speed for 2d clocks and a higher speed for 3d clocks. Eve online launched, and it took a very long time to load everything, and once it seemed everything was loaded it blued. I think that was with everything volted at 1.0 and only a 50mhz drop from stock settings on extra and 3d clocks.

Even if I reduced all clocks by 50% it still runs unstable... I'm missing something - it just doesn't make sense.

Can someone please explain what the difference/purpose of extra clocks vs. 3d clocks?

Thanks

 

I bought one from niffcreature and it works great on my 3700m, only place I could find one was from him. I tried msi and others looking for one.

 

After nearly giving up on this several times, I gave it yet another go - this time focusing on flashing the 3700m as a 280m. I have a lenovo card stamped with the .05 bios.

The issue I have been seeing all along turns out is the 3d lockout issue some of you have talked about in some of the forums. Of course I can't find the particular thread right now to give proper props, but Niffcreature, you were one of those contributers. +rep if it will let me again!

By copying perf table 4 over 2 and 3, whether I am using a 3700m or 280m bios, the bluescreens stop and it no longer blues when launching 3d software. I am always setting the clocks back to factory, as copying over the perf tables also copies over perf table 4's associated clock over 2 and 3. Here are nibitor screens of the 280m bios I am running now:




When I launch 3d games, they run choppy but never bluescreen. Portal 2 seems to run pretty well but clearly there is an issue - other games- older games- run like they are rocking a 386.

GPU-Z shows clocks stuck in 2d mode, running at 200, 400, 100 no matter what I'm running, so this seems to be the issue. I checked the log after running portal 2 and eve online, and it shows the clocks never changing from the 2d clocks.



I'm running Forceware 275.50 from laptopvideo2go with the modded inf. I do see that vendor is marked unknown in nibitor, and with the 3700m bios it was reading msi, although I had the same issues running the 3700m bios too - I am primarily looking to game with this, so I prefer the 280m bios for that reason.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated everyone, I am so excited that I am finally close to solving this! If I fogot some info let me know and I'll post it asap.
Thank you!

 

Well, why don't you try copying the 550/1375/800 clocks and voltage to 2d section?

Also, you really shouldn't be using 1v if you want to be sure about the cause of these bluescreens.

I have a few other vBIOS for you to try, namely a 9800m GTX vbios. I'll have to dig it up if you try this to no avail.

 

Hi Niff,

I'll bump the voltages back to .85 for all but extra, which stock was at 1.0 - will report on what happens... I'll try the 3d clocks over 2d also.

If you have vbios' for me to try, I will try just about anything - thanks!

 

I have a problem with the temperatures ...


By mirrornight at 2011-09-18

I think that the problen is the hp backplate because the screws were smaller and I used a home remedy to make fix.

Could you send me or sell me one backplate for the MSI screws?

I'm from Spain and I will pay shipping ...

I have tried with niffcreature but when i did the payment he wont contact me again, although I've tried to talk with him.

Thank you very much and best regards.

 

You'll pay shipping?? And I didn't respond??

I responded to you in my FS thread where you asked me about it even though it wasn't related to the thread...

And when you purchased the backplate... I told you all I could do for 10$ is ship it with international letter! Maybe this is why you haven't received it!

I have nothing against you, I'm really trying to make your life easier. Turn over your heatsink and take some wire clippers, cut off the white rings on your screws. The screws will come off and you can use the correct type of screws.

Its in many cases much easier and less risky than removing the backplate!

 

I need a vBIOS for the nvidia quadro fx 3700m to flash it to the gtx 280m for gaming performance. The current vBIOS on it is a 69.92.51.00.05

This is for the alienware area-51 m15x (2009 release)

thanks

 

Download the Quadro Performance Drivers. That Lenovo card can't be flashed to a GTX.

 

and where might I find those drivers?

 

Drivers - Download NVIDIA Drivers

 

186.81? its an notebook release

or the Quadro FX release 186.03?

 

here's the driver for win7/vista 64bit: NVIDIA DRIVERS 285.62 WHQL
for 32bit: NVIDIA DRIVERS 285.62 WHQL
and for xp: NVIDIA DRIVERS 266.58 WHQL

 

hello, sorry for my english ...
and excuse me out an old topic.

I meet problems following a upgrade on my MSI GX620 with a fx3700m the site nvidia detects the card properly and provided me the latest driver to date. But during installation I get the following message "the graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware."

I then install a driver from LaptopVideo2Go, with AME file nvwi.inf. The installation is then performed and allows me to use the graphics card that runs very well when using the game, but at least use the card, enabling aero for example, or by executing the small program I get the blue screen ...

I'm on windows 7 64 bit .... the motherboard bios is up to date.

If someone can help me ... Thank you