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    MSI GT660 with Nvidia GTX285M

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by v_c, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. Phinagle

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    HD+ is 1600x900. You can't set your screen to a higher resolution than your native one, you can only switch to a lower resolution from a higher one.

    1600x900->1366x768 is possible. 1366x768->1600x900 is not possible.

    HDD/SSD upgrades are the second easiest component to upgrade after RAM, but even if you still don't want to upgrade you could pay someone to do it for you and it would be cheaper than the i7-840QM.
     
  2. Xazur

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    Does anyone know any other sites with GT660 already listed with custom configuration?
    Wow is no one even interested in getting the GT660? this thread is like dead. Also are we able to choose the color?
     
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    No Info on a barebone yet. Both models have the HD resolution only. These are the only 2 currently, nothing on a higher resolution screen.

    The GT660R-004 is available now, the GT660-003 should be late next week. There is also going to be a GX660-053 with an ATI 5870, the ETA is around 2nd week of August and is up on our site with specs now.
     
  5. Xazur

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    Are we able to select what color the notebook will come in? or is it the default black.
     
  6. IKAS V

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    Now that I seen the GX660-053 it changes everything, now those are some great specs.
    This has got my attention.
     
  7. Xazur

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    How is it great specs? It's same as GT660, with 1 hdd, and HD 5870. The weight still the same?
    Also the screen resolution is the same.
     
  8. kosti

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    :rolleyes:

    It has a better graphics card and costs about $250 less than the GT660. I'd say those are great specs. Obviously weight won't change because it's the same chassis. Anyway JR has it on pre-order for $1299. I'd jump on it but I can't get over the screen resolution.

    MSI Microstar GX660-053US 16" Notebook PC - Black in PC Notebook Computers at JR.com
     
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    No color choices, the default is as shown.
     
  10. IKAS V

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    It looks great in black anyway.
     
  11. Xazur

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    According to Notebookcheck: Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List the GTX 285M has better 3DMark score than the HD 5870 though it does have DX11 and GDRR5.

    I live in Canada, and I know your located in the US. So I am wonder if the price shown is in US dollars, and will I have to pay HST(new tax) if I am buying from RK.
     
  12. IKAS V

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    Anyway can you install a 940XM in one?
    Just asking :)
     
  13. IKAS V

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    The 5870 is a much,much better GPU for gaming.
    And who cares about 3dmark scores the ATI GPU will crush it, the only reason to go with Nvidia is if you need CUDA.
    Notebookcheck is not the best place to compare benchmark scores.
    They do great reviews but tend to compare system with different hardware skewing the numbers.
     
  14. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    Our web site? Yes it is US Dollar.

    When the notebook arrives you will be responsible for taxes/duties in Canada. You have to check locally for the cost/rate.
     
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    As this model is not released yet I cannot say. We have to wait until MSI releases the QVL for validated components. I have not seen the cooling system on the new chassis yet. MSI just received the GT660 today (same chassis) and is shipping tomorrow. We should have one here overnight for Saturday. Once I receive it I should have a chance over the weekend to post some pics of the internals and cooling system.
     
  16. IKAS V

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    Sounds great and looking forward to it.
    Thanks :)
    This looks to be a very big player in the 15" gaming laptop category.
     
  17. Xazur

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    WOW dam. That GX660 is expensive. Just upgrading the CPU to the one in the GT660 will put the GX660 over the GT660. So the GX660 lacks 1 hdd, 2GB ram, and a Blue-Ray drive, but costs as much as GT660. So people are going to pay more for less? I really hope having the ATI HD5870 is worth $500 more
     
  18. IKAS V

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    BLURAY at 1366x768 is a waste.
    6Gb of RAM is not really needed, 4GB is more than enough.
    Don't care much about 2 HDD
    And yes the 5870 is worth it,but your really not paying more for just the GPU, traditionally Nvidia GPU's are more expensive than ATI.
     
  19. Xazur

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    I see where your coming from with that IKAS V, and I agree that blue-ray is a waste, and 4gb is enough, I also personally don't even use more than 250GB, so 1 hdd is enough for me. But I am leaning to the GTX 285m, simply because it has better driver support, and I personally find Nvidia, better for loading games. Hahaha i am a bit biased since most of my families comps are nvidia, but my sister has a ATI and its slow, maybe its just a weaker graphics card. If anyone can post any links to stats/charts/video proving that HD 5870 is the way to go then I will be satisfied. I am also really tired of waiting to get a new laptop lol.


    If your thinking of getting GX660, might as well wait for Asus G53 and see what gpu they pull out on it.
     
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    yeah msi rock!!! very affordable n hardcore gaming!!! i love my msi gx640!!!
     
  21. IKAS V

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    G53 is getting a 460M GTX.
     
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    If I do go with HD 5870 it's because of the tessellation, but compared to plain dx10-dx11 there isn't much difference besides lighting. Also whats so great about lighting? when I play BC2 I keep on seeing white a lot, can't spot things due to that.

    AGGGHHHH damit, I really can't stand waiting. I really wish some online stores would offer GPU upgrade so I can buy the GT660 already. Gonna hate waiting 4 weeks more for GX660, and I still think the specs is inferior to the GT660R-004 for the price.
     
  24. IKAS V

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    The only major thing that is not as good is the CPU.
    And in my opinion the 5870 is well the money.
     
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    Mobility HD5870 only uses GDDR5. I wouldn't be surprised if that's not the only spec that site got wrong either.
     
  27. NotEnoughMinerals

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    A lot of those specs seem a bit out of place compared to what we've seen from MSI. I'd need to see a few more places post those specs before I believe it
     
  28. Xazur

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    Yeh, I don't believe the specs on the GX660 UK.
     
  29. IKAS V

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    I'm not to disappointed about the 1366x768 screen res as long as it's a good quality screen.
    I think I just might pre order the GX660 :)
    With the 5870 it looks like a good combo.
     
  30. IKAS V

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    Thanks to RK Computers first picture with bottom panel off and just by looking at it the heatsink looks huge and the fan too.
    Early reports tell me keyboard is very good with no flex at all.
    This is very good
    :) Enjoy
     
  31. Xazur

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    Hmmmm that image is for GT660 though. I assume since RK Computers does not offer a 2nd hdd option for the GX660 that it will only have 1 hdd max. Which leads me to believe that the GX660 is redesigned. Also the fact that it says 15.6" for the screen since, the GT660 is 16" says its designed differently.
     
  32. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    2nd HDD is available as an add-on for the GX660 but not in a raid configuration because of the HM55 chipset. GX660 is the same chassis and dimensions, just a different screen size.
     
  33. Xazur

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    I am looking at the GX660 page, and if that is true, why do you not offer the 2nd hdd slot to be configured? The GT660R-003 has it. If the GX660 is the same as GT660 besides the chipset and screen, why does the GX660 only allow 8GB ram max compared to the GT660's 12GB.

    Does that also mean that the GT660, could be configured with a HD 5780 as well?

    Speaking of which, I noticed the GT660 has PM55, and the GX660 has the newer HM55. I looked at the difference, and saw that the PM55 is the old chipset(fail on MSI's part), its the most basic of the chipsets. The HM55 offers, switchable graphics, and HDMI and dual screen display, and also has anti-theft. Does the benifit of the HM55 really concern anyone getting the GT660 with PM55? Will people using the GT660 still be able to use HDMI and a external screen? I am a bit vague of the details, can anyone explain it clearly. I really don't see how the GT660 would have the PM55, when the GX640/740 has the HM55.
     
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    We have not had a chance to update the product page for that model yet. It will be available in a few days.

    No the GT660 model is not available from MSI with a 5870, only the GX660.
     
  35. Xazur

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    I am really starting to feel bummed out about buying the GT/GX660. There is so much to take into consideration, and the fact that Fermi cards are coming out later, just makes me want to put off buying it as long as possible. Maybe I should just buy a cheap $400 laptop for now.
     
  36. Dakins

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    There's always going to be something new around the corner. Sandy Bridge CPUs are coming out at the end of this year. The new Radeons HD 6xxx are coming out early next year. If you hold off everytime a new product is announced, you're gonna pull a dookie and never buy anything.
     
  37. Xazur

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    Hahaha well I dont mean wait for the next new thing, I just want to get the best thing that will last me the longest. Like, why get the GT660 with GTX 285m, when it could possibly come out with GTX470m in 2 months, which will last longer than the GTX 285m. Also Sandy Bridge won't be fully utilized until late into 2011, so no point in waiting for it. Still my biggest concern is that I get the best components for the amount I will be paying. Though I am still ashamed at MSI, for releasing the GT660 with a PM55, when their GX640 that was released first, already has a HM55. If anyone can tell me what the major difference would be it will help me decide. Hahaha, I was set on the GT660R-003, but now I am thinking I should get the GX660 since it has the newer components.
     
  38. NotEnoughMinerals

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    Well you're not going to get switchable graphics on either if that's what you're thinking
     
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    Can anyone still explain to me the big difference between the PM55 and HM55, besides the fact that it supports switchable graphics.
     
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    The cooling system in that looks godly *Drool*
     
  42. IKAS V

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    One supports raid the other does not.
     
  43. IKAS V

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    It does!
    Heatsink looks twice as big as the older models.
    MSI is finally learning from there mistakes :)
     
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    Well it seams to me that HM55 is lower class chipset ...
    - 2 PCI lines less
    - as I know the integrated sound card is lower class
    + switchable graphics
    - 2 less SATA channels
    - 2 less USBs
    Details here.
     
  45. Xazur

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    Yeh, thanks Genna, I also looked up on the Intel site overview for each chipset. The PM55 is older, but supports raid which allows access to data faster, it doesn't have all the options as the newer chipsets, like anti-theft, and switch-able graphics, but I wonder if I even need it........

    Also regarding purchasing from RK Computers, in Canada. Will I need to pay for taxes in USA, pay for customs fee, and then pay for taxes again in Canada? I don't know what to do since, I am looking at all the sites offering GT660 in Canada, but it says 'out of stock' or 'back order'. Btw, is it better to buy the GT660R-004 since it has raid by default, or get the GT660R-003 then install another hdd.
     
  46. IKAS V

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    Contact them and ask everything you need to know, they are very accommodating.
     
  47. Xazur

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    Noticed a change in RK computer configuration for GT660/GX660. The wireless option seems to have been replaced, or renamed not sure. The Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 seems to have been removed. Why this change?
     
  48. IKAS V

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    It does not support the N 6300 which uses 3 antennas, best it can do is the N 6200 which uses 2, but honestly there is virtually no performance difference from the two.
    In other words no big deal.
     
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    IKAS you finally gonna pull the trigger?
     
  50. Xazur

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    Lmao I am trying to get it, but I don't know from where. I don't want the hassle of customs check if I order internationally. All the Canadian sites don't even have it in stock, let alone custom configurations. I was really hoping Xotic PC would have it, but they don't even have info page for GT660. I am set on the Gt660 having GTX285m simply because of the driver support. So if anyone knows a Canadian site, that is 'selling' it please tell me.

    IKAS V said in his previous post hes more interested in the GX660, so thats another 3 weeks wait still.
     
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