MSI GX 60 mit 7970

Well increasing CPU speed and memory means it has the ability to overclock the base clock, I wonder if a program could access the same registers and overclock it at will.

 

Here's an interesting read...

AMD Trinity A10-5800K vs Intel Ivy Bridge i5-3470 - Discrete GPU Gaming Performance by VR-Zone.com

Keep in mind those are desktop processors and gpus.

The part where they compared the A10+7870 vs i5+7870 is very interesting though.
The intel chip has an advantage, but it doesn't seem as large as we were expecting.

There are a few black eyes... especially the performance with the desktop 7970 in Lost Planet 2.

 

The review doesn't specifically find title that are CPU bonded though.

 

True enough, but I don't think anyone here is claiming the A10 is going to compete with the i7 3610m. The idea is that the results don't look anywhere near as bad as originally expected for the architecture.

Given his sample, assuming you bought the GX60, and like FPS games, you might have a fairly decent combo.

If the price is right, and they can work out the kinks in drivers (enduro and odd fps drops) this might be an excellent value choice.

 

I'm really confused as to why combine the 7970m with the A10, is it going to be enduro? switchable? anything? I did not read the entire thread I apologize for that, I saw the NBR email about the GX60 announcement but it seems light on important details. Like a price, battery life, switchable/discrete only?

Edit: Found out it seems to be switchable graphics, I guess now the big question is trinity's performance..

 

It is all about cutting the price, 300 off from i7, sure.
200 off ? Maybe
100 off? hm....

 

Yeah if its only $100 less than a compariable i5/i7, then it is not interesting to me at all.

If this is around $1000-1200, it could be amazing. If it's much more, it isn't really an interesting option IMHO.

 

Well that euro price is around £860 for the lowest model. That's in europe so it's looking around £200-250 cheaper atm. Probably a similar amount in dollars in america.

 

Interesting read: here it says that the GX60 is not going to have backlit keyboard at first, but it may be avaibale in the future. It also says something about the Dynaudio system but i'm not able to figure out the bad translation. I think it says that the chassis is an old one and therefore the audio doesn't play as well as the new iteration does, but I'm not sure.

It also seems that they're going to post a review in a couple of days.

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Maybe the software MSI is using to overclock the A10 in the GX60 can be used with other Trinity laptops to overclock in the same fashion? Unless of course there's some special hardware being used to enable overclocking.

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It will depend on the clock generators and the MSI software is notorious for requiring a hardware switch and not even working on the barebone units, let alone another brand.

 

The price is what I'm worried about, because this unique cheapness is what they're screwing up by adding the RAID SSDs and the Killer wifi, etc. I think MSI's best choice would be to make a bare, but very cheap (relatively of course) laptop which has seriuos power. If they could get down to the $1000-1100 range this would be a very unique and viable choice for a gaming laptop.

 

There are different varients, some with ssds and some without.

 

Want some ig benchmarks ?

Go check this :
Review MSI GX60 (in BAHASA) - AMD Trinity A10 4600M Quad Core and AMD Radeon HD7970M 2GB - YouTube

This is scary

 

For those of you not interested in wading through the video:

12492 3dmark06
12323 Vantage (16703 GPU, 6897 cpu)
P4354 3dmark11 (5515 graphics, 2724 physics, 2592 combined)
41.4FPS Heaven 2.5 basic

Those scores are not impressive for a 7970m, but as we all know that is mostly due to the cpu bottleneck.

Oddly enough, it looks like the laptop can indeed game quite well most of the time, it just has weird framerate drops.

I wonder if the drops are due to drivers or bugs, or just bottlenecks...

 

Now available in the UK:

MSI GX60 Gaming Laptop 15.6" LED Full HD AMD A10-4600M 2.30GHz CPU, 8GB DDR3, 750GB HDD, DVD-RW, AMD Radeon HD 7970 2GB GDDR5 Graphics, Win7 Home Premium 64-Bit - Black [GX60 1AC-008UK]

and

MSI GX60 Gaming Laptop 15.6" LED Full HD AMD A10-4600M 2.30GHz CPU, 8GB DDR3, 2x 64GB SSD SuperRAID + 750GB HDD, BluRay, AMD Radeon HD 7970 2GB GDDR5 Graphics, Windows 8 64-Bit - Black [GX60 1AC-025UK]

Yeah the prices are a bit high, but considering they charge £1500 for the base GT60, this is a good sign for other areas of the world.

 

Ah, I didn't know that. I've read an Engadget article about the machine a few days ago and they mentioned that it comes with all this stuff.

I'm very interested in real life gaming performance as well and if the CPU proves to be a bottleneck (which is quite possible in my opinion). If it's not a significant problem, those UK prices are very nice though. It's roughly the same price as the GE60's but obviously that comes with a much weaker GPU.

 

Unfortunately it seems none of those have a backlit keyboard.

 

Yeah the GX60 won't be supplied with the SS Backlit keyboard as standard.

 

Review in French
Portables4Gamers » GX60 - I - Présentation:

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Translated from the review

"Regarding overclocking, after two nights of testing, we have thrown in the towel: either MSi has locked its platform or tools do not yet support Trinity. It remains a hope up a little of the perfs A10-4600, but it remains unlikely."

Ouchhhh

 

Not needed, simply release a 45W version, it dynamically gives more room to the CPU anyway when the GPU is not in use.

 

Overclockers.co.uk have 3 left at £900!

 

oh man I really wanted to buy one of this but I live in Portugal and it seems MSI doesn't sells here only desktop hardware

 

MSI GX60 1AC-021US - XOTIC PC - 15.6" MSI Gaming Notebook

 

Hmmmmm....intriguing. I'd wondered why there weren't any AMD CPU based notebooks with high end GPUs...and now there is.

Of course the (actually solid) integrated GPU is worthless when paired with a top of the line AMD GPU, so it would be awesome if those transistors could be used for like an extra 2 piledriver modules or something.

Any issues with kicking games over to the dedicated GPU exclusively on all AMD systems? It sounds incredibly flaky on Intel CPU systems, but since the while thing's by AMD, maybe...

Love that it includes Blu Ray and a matte screen too!

Hmm...wonder where you get spare PSUs from...