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    MSI GX660-053US (Aug 14) - Looks SOOO Good!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Voodooi, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. damole

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    The difference seems to be, X = ATI and T= nVidia which also seems to distinguish the 640/740 series. According to the pics both versions have exactly the same connections which I'm sure is the case. I'm waiting for the GX660 with a full HD screen as seen here although not the R (raid) version.
     
  2. ice2642

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    Agree.

    I believe this screen size is perfect for games on a HD 5870 mobile that have a HD 5750 desktop power.

    New games will demanding more power and you will mantain a goody quality in native resolution with HD 720p screen for a long time.

    Plus the TDE that can improve a litte more the FPS.


    BR
     
  3. Bytales

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    If all 3 dimm slots are occupied, will the laptop memory run in single channell mode ?
    If yes, will the impact in performance be felt ?
     
  4. NotEnoughMinerals

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    you won't be able to tell the difference between single channel and dual channel. If you're lucky they could run in triple channel but I'm not too sure about that one
     
  5. Molius

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    I believe only i7 can manage RAM in tripple channel mode. However, with i5 idk if it's single, dual, or tripple channel mode when 3 DIMMs are in.
     
  6. Bytales

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    I'm hooked on this laptop. The audio system is awsome. SO, is this 15" or 16" ?

    Does the non R version have 2 hdd bays, like the R version ?? Are you sure the non R version doesn't have a 1080p screen ?

    Any idea when the 1080p 3dimm version is gonna be available. I noticed now on exotic pc, that the version they have doesnt have 1080p screen, ad further more it has 2 dimms.
     
  7. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    The GX660 is 15.6", the non "R" version has two hard drive bays also. The only model currently listed is the GX660-053 which is HD resolution as per the manufactures specs. All versions of the GX660 are listed as supporting 3 so-dimm slots for a max of 12GB.
     
  8. ice2642

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    if 3 slots are occupied you will run it on 3rd channel, 128bit per channel.

    My doubt is if just 2 slots is occupied, if it will made a dual channel or not. becouse has 3 memory banks in the mother board.

    Other, is the CPU now that control the memory. the i5 450M can just control 8gb ram. how it will work in a i5 system ? maximum 2gb x 3 ?

    some stores have the option to 1080p screen
    Logical Blue One - MSI GX660-053US NEW

    look the last option.

    and I believe the both have 2 HDD bays but the GX660 come with just one HDD.

    If the RAID is locked in the GX660, the best cheap option will be a little SSD for the system and swap (32gb is ok 64GB is perfect) and use the GX660's HDD for data.

    BR
     
  9. NotEnoughMinerals

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    hmmm that looks like a reseller upgrade though, not the version that comes stock with the 1080p screen, interesting find though. That's the first time I've seen a reseller offer a screen upgrade on an MSI laptop
     
  10. Bytales

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    The chipset for the core i3/i5/i7 mobile supports , i think, maximum 16gb of ram. There are quad dimm notebooks, and they can be fitted with 16gb of ram. I am pretty sure the only tripple chanell memory support is the i7 for desktop in th lga 1366. Everything else is dual chanell. So it either works in dual chanell, (and thus requires 2 or 4 populated dimms) or in single chanell mode (1 or 3 populated dimms)
    That's why the clevo core i7 dekstop laptops have triple dimms, because the cpu supports triple chanell memory.
    Core i7 desktop, support triple chanell memory on maximum 2 "lanes", that's why you see 2(lanes)x3(triple chanell)=6 dimm desktop lga 1366 motheboards.

    On the other hand, sandy bridge is said to be quad chanell, but only 1 lane, so the max we will have will be 4 dimms, not 8, which would be 2 lanes.
    So, if desktop sandy bridge is gonna appear in a clevo laptop, it will have, for the first time ever, the same number of dimms as the desktop motherboards.
    That means all desktop sandy bridge laptops will have 4 dimms.

    If you add to this the fact that by then we will have 8gb dimms, you will easily see we could have a 32gb desktop sandy bridge, 8 core cpu laptop.

    That would be something.
    So i plan on getting something cheap and save for that monster.

    32gb of ram, 8 core 32nm cpu, dual 480m nvidia cards, or god knows what will be available then, intel 3rd gen ssd, and maybe 1.5tb hard disk, and probably 120hz 1080p display.
    That my friends will be the mother and father of all laptops and desktops alike :)

    But until then, i will drool at the gx660.
    Because it's the only triple dimm dual bay and ODD 15 incher laptop.
    Add to that a more than decent gpu, 1080p display and never before heard, not seen, audio speakers.
    And i think i will part very hard with this laptop. Unless MSI decides to bring something better to the table.
     
  11. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    The GX660R should be available in a week or two. The specs are up on our site now.
     
  12. ice2642

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    What do you guys think about the best option,

    a gt660 with a 3 x 2gb, i7 740m, nVidia gtx285M or the GX 660 2 x 2bg, i5 450M ATI HD5870M ?

    some places O found about the possibility of the GT660 are 3D, is it true ? has it a 120Hz LCD ?

    BR
     
  13. itcomic

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    GX660 come with 6 gb ram . Check Gentech.
    I like ATI more so I go for GX.
    GT660 doesn't have 3D screen as far as I know
     
  14. ice2642

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    Robm, does your store ship to romania? It's in europe.
     
  16. IKAS V

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    3D laptops will give you a headache and blurry vision after prolonged use ;)
     
  17. damole

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    I saw one today in Micro Anvika (London) today. The full HD, Raid0 version, great machine although wish the styling was a little more minimalist, too many textures and colours for my liking. I'm waiting to see the price of the non R version.
     
  18. Rizza-Nj

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    WOW-just looked at your site. I'm in the market for a new laptop, and this thing is right up my alley. I cant wait till it is released. Do you guys do "pre-orders".

    Do you have a release date, or is just a week or two.

    Brian
     
  19. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    They are supposed to arrive in a week or two. It is up as a pre-order now.
     
  20. Rizza-Nj

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    Yeah i just read your site more closely. Sorry about that. I'm am going to start moving the funds around, so perhaps i can pre-order by this weekend. I'm pysched!
     
  21. anexanhume

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    xoticpc just added the -060
     
  22. stingbandel

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    can someone confirm me if this GX series have express card slot and line in?


    thanks... I look at MSI site and compare both GX and GT, GT has express card slot as well as line in but on GX it says no.


    thanks
     
  23. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    Line in the specs say yes.
    For the express slot it is unsure until the notebook actually arrives. It should have the express slot.
     
  24. stingbandel

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    ok will wait til the product actually arrives


    thanks
     
  25. robm@rkcomputer.net

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    Both the GX660-060US and the GX660-053US arrived today. We should have them in a few days to confirm the specs.
     
  26. kingfrog

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    The 3D performance of the Mobility HD 5850 depends heavily on the used graphics RAM. As long as fast GDDR5 is used, the performance should be between a GeForce GTX 260M - 280M in the high end segment. Therefore, all current games (2009) should be playable in high details with high resolutions.


    You are correct not to get hung up in synthetic "benchmarks. They are only a guide and not very useful except for "bragging rights" The 5850 will run anything you throw at. After 25- 30FPS its all moot anyway, People are "happily" running games at very good levels on far lesser cards like GT330s and Radeon 4850s. In two years the 5870 will look on paper like a turtle but still run games well.

    It really depends on the SW as well. Some games would run better on a 285 then 5870. But with either card no one will be disappointed with frame rates . I believe processor speed is more important then the difference between the 5870 and GT285. $1400 for an i5 seems awful expensive for this notebook even with the 5870.

    I too wish they would dispense with the light shows and hide the toyish nature of gaming notebooks.
     
  27. kingfrog

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    Go for processor speed first....The GTX285 is not a shabby card and is well supported. Most games except for Crysis can be played at 30+ frame rates at high settings and on the lesser resolution screen should even be better.

    The GT660 has the advantage for me in bang for the buck

    # Box Contents: MSI GT660-003US Notebook, 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (up to 3 hours), AC power adapter; Software Bundle: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, 2-Year Limited Warranty (include 1 Year Global Warranty)
    # Intel Core i7-740M 1.73GHz Processor with Turbo Boost up to 2.93GHz
    # 6MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB
    # 6GB DDR3 SDRAM
    # 500GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
    # 16" HD LED Backlight LCD Display (1366x768), 16:9 aspect ratio NVIDIA GTX285M Graphics Card with 1GB DDR3 Dedicated memory
    # SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Drive
    # 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN
    # Bluetooth
    # 10/100/1000 Gigabit LAN (RJ-45 Port)
    # ExpressCard Slot
    # 4-in-1 Card Reader SD, MMC, MS, xD
    # Dynaudio Speaker
    # Integrated 720p HD Webcam
    # Ports: 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0, eSATA/USB combo, IEEE 1394, Headphone-out Jack, Microphone-in Jack, VGA, HDMI, RJ-45
    # Approximate Unit Dimensions: 14.97 (W) x 10.24 (D) x 1.77 (H) inches
    # Approximate Unit Weight: 7.7 pounds

    $1449-$1499 Shipped with a 30 - 45 day return policy (depending on the vendor of choice).....How can that be beat?
    THe 660 with the i7 740 processor, Blu Ray, 1900x1080, and the twin drives for A tad under $1600 seem like a great deal as well if you want the hi rez screen BR, another drive and the 5870


    My major issue right now with MSI is support......Who has the best support? Asus is out from what I have read, Dell is out from what I have experienced. ..Sager seems to be ok. (and their notebooks are easy to open and fix yourself)


    MSI does not seem so good....... http://www.laptopmag.com/mobile-life/tech-support-showdown-2009.aspx?page=13

    http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042610-tech-vendors-admit-service.html
     
  28. anexanhume

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    285M is GDDR3. Not sure where you're getting those specs.
     
  29. kingfrog

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    Corrected...Thanks. Still a slamming deal......But MSI support is the question mark. Support is very important to me and worth paying more for with another vendor. I would have had this Lappy already if it were not for the MSI support question.
     
  30. ice2642

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    I choose the GT660R-004US.

    I believe it is GDDR3, if it really is a GDDR5 it will be a gift :)

    I do not like sager.

    BR
     
  31. kingfrog

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    It is DD3 But what really matters is How does it run what you want it to run?

    I like Sager. I especially like how easy it is to open up and work on. Double fans easily cleaned or replaced. Sager has a phenomenal reputation for a boutique Laptop maker. No nonsensical light shows. Just a well made and reputable notebook. I have not discounted the Sager yet.

    But at $1449 with a long time to decide if you like it the MSI GT660-003US is tough to pass on. But the XOticPC GX660 looks like a deal as well if you want two drives, Blu Ray, high resolution screen and the 5780 card. wow.

    BTW I listened to your music...NIce. Do you use your notebook for recording?

    I do the same but in this environment.

    http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n138/Luvtrax/Home/IMG_0444.jpg
     
  32. ice2642

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    cool your studio.

    I made the music in a macbook with garageband ehhehehehe

    I get the GT because I am making a game and need use the phisics from nvidia to test it working, ageia. I have other notebook with ATI to test the Havok, a gateway NV 73A10u with a ATI HD5650 1gb GDDR3.

    But I agree that the HD 5870 is better than gtx285M (G92b)

    KR
     
  33. kingfrog

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    HA Macbook ..all price.... no hardware.. But Garage Band is fast and easy to learn. I use Sonar 8.5. Not so easy LOL. But I have used them since version one in the 80's on a 10Mhz 8086 LOL The 386DX at 33Mhz running "Leisure Suit Larry" and Flight Sim was a screamer......I learned back then not to buy the bleeding edge as your cash would still be bleeding out when your PC became a relic.
     
  34. ice2642

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    in the 80's I use Fast Track and OctaMed on Commodore Amiga 500, after go to an A3000 and A1200 heheheheh

    This is real Cool machine. but PC and Mac kill it.

    KR
     
  35. kingfrog

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    Damm I remember those and how great the Amiga was for sequencing. I have always been an IBM PC intel user. to a fault....When everyone was going MAc for music I was typing in DOS commands. However I could build and fix my PCs. My Mac cohorts were stuck with high priced repairs and downtime. Especially since the Screen was part of the package. But hey they had a nice carrying handle and they were point and shoot.
     
  36. ice2642

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    Is very simple the PC architeture. In my country 90% of the ppl build it own PC. not is like US that the pple buy it done in the store heheheh.

    The first time I've gone to US I bought a tandy PC hehehehhe 8088, I was wandering about can buy it done in the stores. not like here that you need buy in this time the pices to make one your self.

    MSI here is very popular becose this motherboards and perifericals. to buy one done like this GT you need importation from other countries.

    but the talk is very off topic for the forum ehhehehe

    KR
     
  37. nicksti

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    MSI GX660R-060US

    15.6" Gaming Notebook
    Screen: 1920x1080 Widescreen 15.6"
    CPU: Core i7 740QM 1.73GHz
    MEM: 6GB DDR3
    HDD: 640GB HD
    GPU: ATI HD5870 1GB DDR5
    ODD: BD Combo

    $1600+
     
  38. kingfrog

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    Drop the Blu RAy $94 and second Drive $84 and I am all over it although I would prefer the lower Rez screen
     
  39. itcomic

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    If you don't want the blueray and 2nd harddrive, the reseller (which vendor) will deduct $94 and $84 off the $1550+ original price ?

    I prefer the lower resolution as well as i know in a year or so we have to turn down resolution for performance increase .
     
  40. kingfrog

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    This is the very reason to use a custom vendor like XoticPC, RK and GenTech
    They will build the configuration you prefer otherwise why not buy on ,Buy, J&R or B&H for les and get up to a 45 day return window if you are going to buy a stock unit. For instance J&R sells the stock GT660-003 for $1499 Shipped with a 30 day return policy, If I can get a GX660 without the BR and extra drive I will order from a custom vendor. Otherwise I may as well just get the GT660 if I decide on MSI
     
  41. tenorx

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    Do you guys have any info on the europe release date? :( I need a laptop badly soon, and I still can't decide between this one and the GX740 one. However if I have to wait like 2-3 months for this I'll just get the gx740.
     
  42. Molius

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    I read some prognoses about the first two weeks of September (at least in Czech Rep). Lots of stores have this model announced, but just haven't got in stock yet.
     
  43. tenorx

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    Well I couldn't find any store with announced, and I'm really hoping in the first 2 weeks then. I might just buy the GX740 one (not like it's easier to find, all the stores are out of it)
     
  44. SHolmes

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    Hello,

    I just joined up. I'll be getting this model soon (tonight, hopefully), and once I get it set up I thought I put some pics up to go along with my comments. I just wanted to check to see if uploading pictures directly from my computer is okay, or if I should host the elsewhere first and link to them.
     
  45. IKAS V

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    That's fine.
     
  46. SHolmes

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    Okay, so the delivery guy got it to me tonight (woo!). I haven't had much time to play around with it, but I decided to put up my initial thoughts. Here's the run down on the specs:

    15.6" Full HD 1920x1080
    Intel Core i5-460M (2.4 GHz, Turbo feature ups it to 2.66)
    ATI Radeon HD5870 1GB DDR5
    500 GB HDD 7200 rpm
    4 GB DDRIII Ram
    9 cell lithium ion battery

    You can see more details here (waaay down):
    Gmarket - Buy and Sell Apparel, Cosmetics, Jewelry, Electronics & more at low price

    As I said, I just got it not four hours ago, so I haven't had much time to mess around with it. I just managed to download Dragon Age from Steam (it's the most graphically intense game I own) and give it a try. The audio sounds great, but I didn't notice much difference between the audio on the GX660 and my older laptop. Maybe it was a little clearer, but I'm not very good at picking up those kind of details.

    The thing I really cared about was checking out the performance. I got DA all the way up to 1920x1080 with full details and anti-aliasing off. I ran around the Dwarven city and I never noticed a moment of stuttering or slowdown. It looked perfect. However, I didn't get into any fights or large scale encounters, so I can't be 100% sure. I'll let you know.

    Any questions? Any tests you guys want me to put it through?
     
  47. PTRob

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    There are several people curious about FFXIV benchmark results with different GX660 and GT660s. If you wouldn't mind running this bench that would be great.

    FINAL FANTASY XIV Official Benchmark
     
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    Low Res (1280x720) Score = 2852, Loading Time = 24599ms
    High Res (1920x1080) Score = 1942, Loading Time = 41367ms
     
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    Thank you so much!
     
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    Hi guys, I've registered on the forums just to ask you about the GX660 (not R)

    I'm considering buying the GX660 (not R) and the GX720 (E7405) (and maybe the GX740 with a corei7). I love the build quality and design of the GX660.


    The processor speed isn't very important because the main use of the laptop will be games and the graphic card will get outdated before the processor, so I think a core i-5 is enough.

    For gaming the best resolution is the lowest (GX660) but i think 1333x768 is a little too low (my girlfriend's 13.3" imac has a very similar res), I'd like the resolution of the GX720-E7405 and GX740 (1680 x 1050), something balanced between screen quality and performance. But something that will let me play games in the future at native res without having to set down resolution (thats why i dont want a full hd 1080p).

    So my question is: Is good the quality screen of the GX660 (1333x768)? How is it compared to the other models? Has anyone compared them?

    The GX660

    The GX720 (E7045)

    And the GX720

    Btw has anyone bought at Frostycomputers? I think they have free shipping worldwide but I'm sure about that.

    Greetings!
     
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