MSI GX740 with 5870 1gb ddr5

Truth, more memory is always welcome... But it is possible in any of this nottys...
Actually I've been a long time no-playing games... (An I getting too old?? )
But as Revit works hard on 3D, I think the VGA-card will not be useless...
That's the only thing (except design) that differ an powerfull workstation of an good gaming notty.. (Am I wrong?)

Anyone would recommend Toshiba?

 

@femesq It is an internal SSD u just put of the dvd player and put inside an hdd caddy with ssd inside not external e-sata..
http://newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=page&id=7&chapter=0

 

Wow.. I really liked it!

I was just planning to use and External BD-Burner.. That would really fit my need in MSI.
Is it possible to boot via e-SATA (external optical drive), in case of re-installing the system?

Anyway.. Using an external HDD is not that bad...

Thanks!

 

Well I could get the BB machine for 1300, which includes everything but the harddrive. And I probably would not upgrade it for some time, but would appreciate that I could open the machine without voiding the warranty. However that MSI warranty does look appealing.

 

The Gx's does not come with a sticker at the bottom , which means you can open and clean whenever you want

 

Are you sure? Because my GT725 has the warranty sticker, and the thing is a total piece and is coming of on its own.

 

100% sure. I'm a GT725 owner too

 

@ Femesq: I was just pointing out that the extra RAM comes standard, so you don't have to pay extra for it, or rather, you don't have to pay as much for the extra RAM as you would for the RAM upgrade to the other systems, and you get an extra HDD slot alongside a higher res screen in the bargain. Since you're going to pay for the SSDs either way, the Asus would likely work out to be the least expensive option once all things are equal.

EDIT: For example, @ Xoticpc, the Asus A2 is $1778 with the 80GB SSD with a 500GB HDD and a 17.3" FHD screen, compared to $2077 for the GX740 with the extra RAM and 80 GB SSD with no other HDD and a lower res 17" screen or $1979 for the extra RAM, i7-720, and 80 GB SSD with no additional HDD, a smaller FHD screen, and no OS (add $90 for that). From a strictly gamer perspective, the MSI is the money winner, but if you're doing anything RAM intensive, the Asus is the cheaper choice.

I was under the impression that the workstation graphics cards (Quadro FX, etc.) are better for the kind of work you'll be doing than the gaming GPUs that you're looking at. Of course, I could be the one who's wrong here. On the other hand, I know that workstations are definitely pricier, but if price isn't an issue...

Can anyone with more knowledge of these things answer this?

 

Thuth,
Thanks for that! You've been very precise!
The fews reviews I've read was taking me to Asus because of lower temperatures, and this other things you well pointed.
In terms of motherboards, in the times I mounted my own computers, I used to like MSI more than Asus...
The only think that messed my mind is the fact os Asus using PM55 chipset, against HM55 of MSI. ( http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mobile-core-i7,2443-3.html)
And the goal of the barebones, is the possibility of using 1333Mhz memory ("from factory")..

Any opinion will be very welcome...

 

...
The Quatro FX seens equivalent to the ATI 5870, but the review says its optimized for CAD, like you said...
...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-FX-3800M.23058.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5870.23073.0.html

 

From what I can tell, they both have the HM55 Express Chipset. These are the product pages at Gentechpc.com. The specs are at the bottom of the page.

GX740: http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchan...740-079US&Category_Code=MSINB&Product_Count=0

G73JH-A2: http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=G73JH-A2&Category_Code=

 

Of the systems you're looking at, the Sager is the only one that can come with the Quadro, but both Gentechpc and Xoticpc only list the Quadro 2800M, not the faster 3800M. I don't know how those two compare, and Notebookcheck seems to have no benchmark info for the 2800M. You would probably have to go to a workstation class laptop to get the 3800M. Dell's cheapest workstation with a 3800M is CA$3300.

 

Well... let's forget about QuatroFX...
ATI 5870 rules!

I've liked the Sarge...
Where the best place (cost/benefit) to buy it in CA (I'm brazilian, and I'm going to LAX, SFO and LAS in late May..)

 

That's good. Kills me that I cant open the 725 without voiding it. But they are covering my cracked hinge under warranty. Are you planning on getting the GX740 when its available?

 

Be sure to get the 12.7mm HD caddy, not the 9.5mm.

The MSI, at least for the 17" models, uses 12.7mm optical drives,

so the 9.5mm caddy will not work... ( Waste of money for buying one 9.5mm.. )

 

Yeah, thanks i read about that XD

 

How did you cracked up the hinge in the 1st place ? Glad it's covered by warranty though

Well not yet , there's still plenty of life in the 4850 .. But , for my next notebook i'm going Clevo !

I don't want another "Gt725" as that's what the Gx740 is only with a better GPU and an i5/7

 

I think the hinges are too tight, because I have to use what seems like too much force to open the lid. But It is only the plastic part of the monitor casing around the hinge area, not the hinge itself, so I am assuming they will just replace the entire plastic cover.

Why wouldn't you want a GT725++? The GT725 is one of the best machines ive owned (minus the ddr2 ram) So I am assuming the GX740 will live up to that same standard. What model clevo where you thinking?

 

Dead2th3world aren't clevo's laps too massive ? i mean not "mobile" notebook at all. what do you think.

 

I think it's too tight as sometimes mine makes some screeching noise when opening .. If it's covered by warranty then no worries (if i have any left )

NP8760 or NP8120. I'm hoping by the time i hit the market there would be crossfires of those 5870 .. well hopefully ! That would be sweeet !

How about you ? Gx740 ?

EDIT: @ Stereo , My Gt725 haven't left my room , let alone my desk in over 8 months+ , so portability and battery life are the least of my worries. I want as much power and functionality as i can get

They are big , but fully geared up ! 3 HDD's , Raid0 capabilities , Great cooling .. My kind of thing

 

Idle temps update.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

CPU cooling is amazing. Hmm....

GPU is a bit on the warm side.

 

Did more modding to it ?

 

No, actually.

CPU is rock solid.

maybe the QS 920xm sensor is reporting the wrong temps?????

 

I doubt it , is hardware monitor showing the same temps ?

 

I am pretty sure I am getting the GX740. I can sell my GT725 and then pay 200$ and get the new one, Id say thats worth it. Still tempted to get the BB thought

 

-> few more pictures
http://www.msimobile.com/level3_productpage.aspx?cid=6&id=215

 

thats my baby

 

I hate you so much

 

I still dont like the low fps in gta4
i have found nothing to fix it, even when i lower setting dramatticly. Its about 15fps-20.

 

GTA4 is a CPU-Hog, from what I've heard.

I don't play GTA4, so.. I can't run benchies for you either.... sry.

 

ah, and overclocking a i5 wont do much?

 

@borgqueenx yeah.. for now

 

quad core =D

 

Congratulations

@borgqueenx did you fixed CTRL-FN ?

 

Pushing the i5 should do loads, although i think someone said that patch 6? adds more shader levels in nights and that patch 4 was an optimum choice.

 

Tell me how and whats a good configuration - for the i5.
@stereosound: those are the plans for tommorow.

Oh, and is my cpu also the cause of a low fpssed prototype(the game)?

 

Hmm, i didn't really think prototype was too demanding personally? I thought it sat quite heavily on the GPU :S,

 

This is the "can i run it?" section http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=423444&page=151 All gaming related questions should be asked there , Enjoy!

I doubt an "i" can be oc'd in notebook and like i said last time around , go back to patch #4. Your GPU is the bottleneck when it comes to GTA4

It was me

 

Temps Update,

Idle temps.

 

Nice man, i see GPU utilisation there, are you finding your GPU is being used (Just wondering, i do have the solution to it.)

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6178146#post6178146

DX11 Program/Benchmark, good to see the tesselation and everything, people who dont know much about dx11, you should try it

 

Oohh... downloading

btw, What is this solution?

 

wow man great temps :thumbsup:

 

Seems HDMI Audio pegs the GPU usage to 25% pretty much constantly for me,

So go to device manager and go to audio devices and disable it, if it still persists disable it from system devices (If i recall.)

 

Hmm, can't find it.

My Idle GPU is 0% indeed, so no worries.

It is just an occasional spike

 

Ahh thats fine then (Remember aero uses some GPU too i think.)

Did you try it merak? (The tooly thing.)

 

Not yet,

I was too lazy to install it after downloading it...

Will install today and test it out.

I will post the results(?) if there are one on this thread!

 

Hehe yeah, i want to make a 5850 v 5870 performance comparison.

 

The 920XM might skew the results, though I'd guess that the benchmark you're linking would be heavily GPU bound.

 

Yeah it will cheese, hmm its possible that we can assign only single (OC'd) or dual core towards the running of the benchmark, that could make it fair.

Whats the overclocked 920 when only 1 core is being overclocked (intel boost blah)

And then we need the i5 clocks.