MSI GX740 with 5870 1gb ddr5

Barebones is the way to go!

 

Didn't someone say that Ken said that Gentech was supposed to get some yesterday (Friday)?

 

don't remember that, could always email and ask?

 

I believe I read that as well...
That their shipment was delayed due to 5870 shortage, etc..etc..

 

I just want some noise, heat, and screen reviews, so I can choose between this and the Asus G73. I've been stalking (my wife's word) these two computers for almost 3 months now and I want some answers! I assume the benchmarks will be pretty even, perhaps even giving the GX740 the edge at native resolution.

 

Patience

 

Check this out guys.
Medion AKOYA x7811 is basically a rebranded MSI GX740...

Review:

Notebookcheck: Review Medion Akoya X7811 Gaming-Notebook

 

There is a retailer here in DK, which has around 20+ in stock. Nonetheless I'm still hesitating to buy, cause i want some reviews out first !

 

I wrote to XoticPC:

they said:

Hello, Thank you for your email.

Right now MSI has not given us any information to go on as far as a legitimate release date in the US. Supposedly it is going to be soon. I will tell you that once it does it will sell very fast. The price for performance on that model is outstanding!


that was useful u__u''

 

At least they were honest and didn't blow smoke up yer keister.

 

Yeah cause that would be two bad smells.........

 

Hope they're spending the delay time revamping the cooling because, but who knows.

 

They wouldn't make it in time.

 

Ofcourse they would, from what i see they only need to modify the GPU heat plate,

 

Hey guys!
I'm planning on buying a GX740 in the next 1-2 weeks and I'd like a few hints about it.
As i can see in the last 4-5 pages it's not out in the US? How come? Does it have some problems, meaning i shouldn't buy it in Hungary?

 

You're more likely to see a flying saucer than the GX740.

 

Atleast here in Sweden (And Scandinavia) the shipments that come by plane from Asia (Guessing China) got massive delays due to the ashcloud from that Icelandic volcano that's been on the news. And the fact that MSI got way more orders on this model than they expected didn't help and made them fall behind on production. They seem to have caught up now, or atleast in Sweden though you might have to wait for 1-2 weeks for your laptop. I can't really answer for the rest of EU or the US.

 

try contacting some retailer shops in the netherlands and ask if they ship to you. it will be a high shipping price thats for sure, but there are like 15 shops that sell the GX740 here. I got the notebook and it has problems yes.
suspend mode not working every time, sleep mode not waking every time, and
the notebook does not like torrent downloads. download torrent and you will have random BSOD's all with different error messages. i tried different clients but they all do desame.
and you cant close the lid and re-open, the screen stays black.

These are the problems with the notebook so far...but im having a good time with all the smooth games

 

Hungarian shops actually sell it, i just never read a review about it ( due to no release in the US ) and i'm a bit worried of what i'll buy But i saw a few vids about it, those look good, also the components are pro, so i might just give a shot.

 

What exactly is the difference between the GX740 and the barebone "GX740" on frosty computers???? The temps that somebody posted seemed to be very reasonable. CPU i7 idled in 30's, GPU maxed at 60. I'm not sure whats going on

 

The barebones is $200 more i think.

 

Actually, there is a review, and it's not exciting. It gets 60% out of 100%.

 

Hmm where did you read that?

 

That's the average scores the MSI Gseries gets anyway .. My Gt725 got like 66/100 at nexus.

Mostly coz of the crappy screen , the cramped keyboard with a little bit of flex , the black and red chassis (soo many years using the same crap) ...

But the cheapest when it comes to hardware , worth it.

 

okay guys, really need some help here, the thing is every time i try to boot the MSI GX740 ( the european version with the i5 cpu) when a usb unit is plugged in, it simply wont boot. Tried making some changes to the bios boot order, but it did not solve the problem. Anyone out there with a fix?

 

My Dell XPS m1530 will never boot with my iPod plugged in.

My solution was:

• Boot without USB unit plugged in.
• Getting used to plugging the iPod at the windows startup logo.
• Peace of mind.

The REAL solution being:
Remove "Boot from USB device" from BIOS

 

Tests - MSI GX740-i5448LW7P - MSIs High-End-Antwort ? auf notebookjournal.de

Better translate it.

 

Its beautiful :')

And i'm putting all my money on replacing the thermal pads with paste and you'l come off 100C temperatures in the burn test, garanteed.

 

u_u'' I asked Ken from Gentech about the release date:

 

After that, I'm having second thoughts about this unit. I have the GT735 which I like except the heat. The GX740 review reveals less cooling capability than some comparable models. Also, the screen brightness appears to be worse than what I currently have. Only thing better is the cpu/gpu. And I am really, really disappointed that my next laptop might not be a MSI. Been following this thread for several weeks in anticipation of the 740 release in the US.

 

eek max temp 100+ on gpu? Wow even worse than the gx640 and that is just an i5.

 

The scariest part is how easily and quickly the gpu reaches those temps.

 

Duplicate review link....I deleted.

 

I chose the G73 over this and have no regrets. Max temp during 15 min of furmark was 98 deg. During normal gaming it stays in the low 80s. Check out my review.

 

Wow, much closer to temps as the GX740 as i thought, well i guess most laptops are strugling to keep 5870 at bay with furmark, awesome . (Except sager)

 

Well I'm not too worried about the temps in the test as the guys who have the custom builds have shown, they can get lower temps with hotter cpu's in essentially the same chassis. Plus, with the GX740's warranty, I figure if it fry's I'll get a new one and they should have everything under control in 3 years. I'd go for the G73 but for the connectivity. No USB 3.0 w/0 esata to compensate is a bad idea given where I think the future is heading. Plus I'll be doing real aud/vid work on this box which means access to speedy external i/o. Guess we just have to keep waiting to see.
seer

 

You are right about the warranty. If anything is going to happen, it'll happen in three years. USB 3.0 is nice to have, but I'm debating whether I'll see much benefit in that before I buy another laptop 2-3 years from now.

 

Where are you guys getting your GX740's? Anyone from USA get one? Still says ETA mid to late March on XoticPC, lol.

 

Barebones MS1727...
the actual GX740, according to Gentech is that they've been having problems :

... but that was last week...

 

Just checked Gentech's site - base price is still the same but the stock config is the 8X DVDRW. Blu-Ray is now an extra upgrade instead of getting almost $100 off to swap it out for the then non-stock DVDRW.

 

GX740 even out yet?

 

Not yet. I have a pre-order and I'm concerned about the impact as I was able to bring the price down buy swapping out the BD drive. I have a call scheduled with Ken to get the details & options.

 

I was going to buy from them to knew I would never want to wait that long so i ordered the MS-1727 from BTO cause of the warranty, they cover the shipping costs if what happens to you happens.

 

So word from Ken is MSI has had problems with their BD drive working with ATI drivers. So now initial config is with DVDRW but no change in pricing. He also reports MSI's distributors are not happy with this so the price of the 1st units may still change. Email from MSI says they finally shipped on 5/11 but that still means it won't be until late May at best (and more likely early June) before we see them released.

Disclaimer - any factual errors on the above are on me, not Ken but I think I got it basicly right

 

Whow . . . this delay on the gx740 isn't going to be good for it, especially if it doesn't get out to people until June or so. (un)Fortunetly for me my financial situation can't accomodate a new laptop for a few months, so I'll be playing the waiting game some more.

 

Sorry everyone, but i'm not buying the problem with the blue ray. I don't recall seeing anything in the tech press about ati having problems with it, Maybe I missed it ...my own pure, personal, unadulterated and admitted speculation, is the following:
1. 5870 is the hottest thing out there and has been for some time now.
2. MSI is NOT the first choice of ATI to supply sooo, they *may* be having some trouble getting the vid chips.
3. or...the chip is sooooo hot, msi may be rethinking their pricing....looking at the gouging going on with the G73's ...
4. they *may* be looking at the premium they are getting on the cheaper to produce but more expensive bare bones version...
5. they *may* be trying to figure out how to improve the cooling and waiting for a production line change..

The problem is, deciding which of the above make sense and which don't.

As Peek intelligently observed...every day without the 740 is a sale lost to the G73 or other competitor...soooo, assuming someone at MSI knows something about business, there *should* be a reason for the delay, and it must be a good one.

Possibles? well..

1. Trouble getting the 5870 chips...Now this makes sense as MSI isn't a first tier customer for AMD/ATI. Motivation is to get the units out the door, HP and Acer, Asus, Toshiba, all of em are putting out units with this chip.

2. Trouble with cooling...well this *could* b a problem worth working out, but a simply stronger fan would go along way to alleviate this problem, or clocking down the gpu, lots of things that could be done.

3. Problem with some other part of the 740 that isn't on the 1727. The touch only buttons along the top? hmmm pretty simple tech.. seems unlikely.

4. Actual problem with the blue ray. wellll, if that's the case, we'll see if they actually ship any with the blue ray drive or continue to offer it,

5. wanting to change the effective price without losing its customer base.

Soooo, take your pick. which one do YOU think

seer

 

Well i read it all, but i've had a hard day so im not going to type much,

They're not loosing any money by waiting thats for sure,

The problem definately isn't blueray, its the shortage of 5870 chips,

MSI also make some alterations of their own sometimes,

Aslong as they're pumping the 640 with 5850s they are at no loss with sales, thats a garanteeeeee, and not everyone want g73.

Occasionally the blueray readers have firmware issues thats it,

MSI should never downclock chips or they'd be as bad as asus!
The machine is different to the barebone, and remember MSI are supplying medion computers too,
Although a price drop would be nice,

Cata

 

This the benchmarks for GX740:

- i7-720QM
- 4GB DDR3 1333
- ATI HD5870 1GB GDDR5

Stock drivers 9.12 no overclock:






Catalyst 1
10.3 no overclock:




Screen:

 

Whoah, thats a bit on the warm side O_O