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    MSI Laptops Drivers

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. heliada

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    My laptop installed it before I noticed it was there and tbh I have not noticed any issues so far.
     
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    Did you have the killer suite installed before that? glad no issues with this update.
     
  3. heliada

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    I don't have the suite and neither do I have the killer drivers. I am on the intel drivers just as Phoenix. ^^
     
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    Same here. as long as the internet's working fine thats all that matters.
     
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    Bios E17A1IMS.325 available for GT73VR 7RF
     
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    Cool. more magic smoke for me?
     
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    Killer 1550/Intel WLAN Driver updated to v20.60.0.7

    [​IMG]
     
  9. itaylor57

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    New dragon center 1.2.1804.1201
     
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    Ooo! Speaking of ooo.. let me know when suits for my free retweak session :p
     
  11. DRevan

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    Hi !
    Does anyone have the 8850H model here?
    If yes, can someone confirm if this chip is really "unlocked"?
    By " unlocked" I mean that there were rumors that this chip allows the user to set the multiplier for each core to x40 so that the cpu frequency would not jump around depending on the number of used cores.
    Is this true?
    Does Dragon Center really allow the user to set x40 even for 1 core?
    Is the 4.0 ghz super stable even during Fire Strike (like with 7820hk and 8950hk) or its jumping around occasionally?

    Thank you!
     
  12. heliada

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    I thought the 8850H ran at x40 by default? It should be overclockable to like 4.4GHz on all cores I believe (so not totally unlocked but partially)... And I am pretty sure it will be stable, my 8750H will not move from 3.9GHz on all cores no matter what I do with it on high performance mode - it just refuses to go any lower. But I guess waiting for info from someone who actually has that cpu at home will be better.
     
  13. DRevan

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    Yes I saw that mentioned, but has anyone ever co firmed it yet?
    Hopefully someone with this cpu will read this and confirm if it is really overclockable in Drqgon Center or not.
    If it was trully overclockable all [email protected] in DC than for me 8850h would be enough.
     
  14. Falkentyne

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    Why bother using Dragon Center? Just unlock your own Bios and force constant clock speed with your unlocked Bios.
    It isn't hard to do.

    Get the "Cannon lake" version of FPTW64 from win-raid.com
    dump your bios with fptw64 -d mybiosbackup.rom -bios
    Follow the instructions I wrote in Paloesco's MSI bios unlock thread to get the Hex offset key for "Bios Lock", using UEFItool and then using Universal IFR extractor, then looking for Bios Lock in the text file you made.
    Change Bios Lock to disabled by booting to an EFI prompt with RU.EFI by using the proper hexadecimal offset
    Boot to windows, change all of the menus in "Advanced" and submenus to "Supervisor" (will probably take a few hours of your time) using AMIBCP 5.0.2 (5.0.1 WILL cause corruption!!!!)
    Flash your modified menus back with fptw64 -f mybiosbackup.rom -bios

    and enjoy.
     
  15. DRevan

    DRevan Notebook Virtuoso

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    True, but easier to try different settings with DC to find the perfect one which I can set in the bios.

    I will answer one of the questions I have asked with the information I have found on the Aorus website:
    https://www.aorus.com/blog-detail.php?i=303

    It seems that both the 8850h and 8950hk are unlocked and the user can set core ratio. The difference is that the 8950hk with higher tdp and the extra power adapter can handle higher overclock.
    But honestly 6 cores @ 4.4 ghz would be enough for me for gaming, not to mention that I would not have to carry around 2 power adapters, only one. Also it is $500 cheaper.

    Now the only things I want to know, does MSI/DC also support overclocking of the 8850h and what is the max oc MSI DC allows?
     
  16. wilpang

    wilpang Notebook Consultant

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    Hi DRevan

    I have the 8850H version of the MSI GT75 8RG, what is the best way to check if it's unlocked without messing with the BIOS as I'm no expert and don't want to make newbie errors?
     
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    Do you have Dragon Center installed? With older DC and 7820hk if I selected Turbo mode and clicked on the cog next to it a new window popped with sliders where I was able to increase gpu clocks and cpu clock.

    There should be something similar in the new DC too.
     
  18. wilpang

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    I have uninstalled DC but can reinstall, in the meantime anything else to use? Throttlestop maybe?
     
  19. wilpang

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    Please see attached pic, is this what you wanted to see?
     

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    Yes! Thank you!
    This means MSI GT75 with 8850H officially supports OC to 4.4 ghz!
    This settles it.
    I am passing on the 8950HK.
    Yes it can OC higher however extra $500 and 1 more power brick to carry around just does not worth it for me. In my opinion 4.4 ghz is enough for games.
    Thank you for the confirmation.

    If it is not much to ask, could you please run a FireStrike test with this settings where I can see the cpu score and the cpu frequency and temps (displayed at thr bottom)?
     
  21. wilpang

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    It's going to run hot with all 6 cores...

    So you want everything at stock with 4.4 ghz on all cores and auto fans or cooler boost? How do I display the cpu freq and temps?
     
  22. DRevan

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    4.4on all cores with coolerboost.
    FireStrike will monitor cpu frequency and temps, you can display them at the bottom of the result page.
     
  23. wilpang

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    This is what I got so far...

    I don't have the full version of 3D Mark so used HW Monitor, ambient temp around 22c
     

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    How are you going to push 6 cores 12 threads at 4.4 ghz and remain in 45W power limit?

    let me know. Let brother @Papusan know too.
    These chips can exceed their TDP, unlike the HQ Processors?
     
  25. DRevan

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    I believe this question has been answered in the above post.
    If I am not mistaken the 8850H went up to 100W @ 4.4 Ghz ... and thus almost burns with stock paste (at least I hope its stock paste and thats why its so hot) ;)
    8850H is the unlocked i7 Coffe Lake, Intel just forgot to add K to its name.

    Btw, @wilpang thanks for the benchmarks!
     
  26. Falkentyne

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    Going up to 100W and SUSTAINING 100W is BIG difference.

    Try running Cinebench R15 @ 4.4 ghz 5 times in a row, without pausing between tests, and tell me if your score remains the same or not, with absolutely NO throttle flags set in Throttlestop or HWinfo64.
    If it does, I'll personally eat a frog.

    @Papusan
     
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    Aida64 is an ok test. Not as the P95 Power virus. Many use Aida64 software (ODM - MB manufacturers - resellers). Great to find correct clock speed you can use for Avx load (if you use software with this instructions). Just follow the guide.

    Or just run Cinebench in loop as already mentioned. It’s a own thread in NBR with explanations how to put it up. Or just click new/next rounds once the first one is finished.
     
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  28. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Let's keep discussions here about drivers only.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Ups, my bad, just realized this is the driver thread -_-
     
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    Is not there a change log of the E17A1IMS.325 bios?
    I am stationary at E17A1IMS.31B (GT73VR 7RE) to avoid problems with patches for spectre and meltdown.
    I would like to know if there are any major updates that would be worth updating from E17A1IMS.31B to E17A1IMS.325.
    Thanks.
     
  31. Djadit

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    Implement indicator

    Sent from my CPH1723 using Tapatalk
     
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    @Phoenix nshittia released new drivers 397.93 today, gave it a shot yet on your msi? I will be trying now.
     
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    I don't see an nvidia update available

    must be a regional thing that update does not show up for me.
     
  34. heliada

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    Well it's up on the website
     
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    Nah don't bother my card still downclocks with that driver. Sigh.
     
  36. itaylor57

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    This driver degrades my edge benchmarks timespy and firestrike, so I am staying with the earlier driver version.
     
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    what do you mean by "implement indicator"?
     
  38. itaylor57

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    all the notes say is:
    1.Implement progress indicator.
     
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    The last driver, well, the hotfix BEFORE the last driver, made every 'GPU recovery' always fail and lock up my laptop. Seeing how the driver after the hotfix killed 3 laptop's VRM's, I never used it. And I'm not using this one either. No magic smoke for me.
     
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    Be happy you did not install after all.. I did encounter some very brief disconnects in the end (enough to dc in games but did not notice just browsing and watching youtube). I figured: so I can just remove it, no big deal... How wrong I was! Uninstall updates? Not listed. Uninstall from apps? Not listed. Uninstall from device manager? Not listed. No matter what trick I tried that google could find: not listed, unable to be removed etc... it seems to have butted itself somewhere into a folder where windows10 apps install and where drivers install and some other place but it also did not show in windows store or anywhere at all. Uninstalling network drivers did not remove it either. So I concluded I could either find all files associated and just force delete them in safe mode (would have probably caused some problems) or pray that I have a suitable restore point (thank god I did). After restoring a whole week back I hid the update asap so it would not reinstall again and all seems good so far. >.> What a drama.
     
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    wow what a pain just to get rid of it, I'm surprised it wasn't listed in 'uninstall updates'. so you had no disconnects before that update? good that you hide it than, shame you had to go through all of this just to have it gone.
     
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    Yeah it seems to have added a killer network service or sth to run in the background and with that I had some disconnects in games. I could either kill the task, disable it in services or get rid of it. And I prefer to get rid of stuff. Guess it was my choice to go through all of that.
     
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    And probablyy the better choice. I agree.
     
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    @Falkentyne

    MSI updated the nVIDIA Driver from 390.94 to 391.48. Check the OP for the link
     
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    Where are you getting these things? There is nothing about this driver in gt75 sections :eek: Did you get it from the ge63 site or so? Does it recognize our gpu's too?
     
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    I need to test it but I am tweaking @asm1 laptop now so you test it for me if you want.

    Where do I get them? I am a Phoenix... [​IMG]
     
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    Oh. My. God. I could seriously give you a hug now. ALL my problems are solved on this driver, no crashing so far and no downclocks. I will test some more (let it idle a lot) but I am pretty positive about this. Thank youuuuuuuu
     
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    Be smart....be like Phoenix... [​IMG]
     
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    the new nVIDIA Driver from MSI installed just fine on my GT75 Titan as well.
     
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    well that runs not so good on my lappy
     
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