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    MSI Laptops Drivers

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Falkentyne

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    Nvidia's stock should be downgraded too.
     
  2. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Why is it when I am installing an nVIDIA Driver, it takes ages at the checking compatibility screen at first and even the driver install takes longer. but with the nVIDIA Drivers downloaded from MSI, the checking compatibility finishes instantly and the driver installs much faster?
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    How long time you talk about. For both processes. Not total time.
     
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    Didn't measure it....but with the nVIDIA Drivers, and this applies to ALL nVIDIA Drivers, when i says Checking compatibility when you first launch setup.exe, it takes like 30-60 seconds checking for compatibility. With the MSI Variant of the nVIDIA Drivers, it finishes the compatibility check instantly and even the driver install itself is faster.
     
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    Maybe NV drivers check for every card from 700 series with every possible SKU available up to RTX,
    MSI only checks for SKU's for their own laptops (and who knows if its Pascal only, or Kepler?)
     
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    I've noticed that too!
     
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    Intel Chipset Drivers updated to 10.1.17861.8101
    Intel Rapid Storage Technology updated to 16.8.0.1000
    RAID Driver updated to 16.8.0.1000
    Intel Management Engine Driver updated to 1847.12.0.1183
     
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    nVIDIA GeForce Experience updated to 3.16.0.140
     
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    I installed the nvidia driver here. Why doesn't the OpenGL tab appear on the CPU-Z screen? Is this a problem? Everything is OK.
     

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    Nice catch. I didn't notice that until you told me. In that case you can just forget MSI's version of the nVIDIA Driver and install the latest one from nVIDIA although people that have Optimus on their laptop are reporting performance issues with it but if you don't have Optimus then you should be fine: nVIDIA GeForce Driver 417.22

    How to properly update your nVIDIA graphics card driver
     
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    MSI True Color re-released for the 3rd time with the same version number 2.1.2.0, same file size, same hashtag...

    2018-12-12_115727.jpg

    It seems like the clowns in the MSI Drivers team have a really tough time adding a different version number they re-release the same driver with the same version number for the 3rd time in the last 8 months.

    Maybe they should collaborate with Mozilla's team to teach them how to come out with a new version number every 24 hours...

    Firefox 64 Beta 1, Beta 2-----Beta 9,,,Firefox 64 RC, Firefox 64 Final, Firefox 64.0.1 final...Firefox 65 Beta 1...
     
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    Files aren't the same?
     
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    the file size is exactly the same, what makes you think that the files are not the same? and why not just give it a .1 addition instead of .0?

    Like 2.1.2.1 instead of 2.1.2.0

    They've been pulling this crap off for the past year. It's not the first time.

    I even contacted them about this and they gave me a not very convincing answer that they update the drivers site-wide for all the laptops. That still doesn't explain why we are having the same driver or utility re-released with the same size, version number, yet with a different date.
     
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    What was their response? lol.
     
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    We update our drivers sitewide, as in, all in one shot multiple uploads across all models. Sometimes, a new laptop is released, so we re-release the same utility to support that new laptop thus give it a new date.

    My take on this is riiiiiiiiiiiiight, that's why the file hashes and size is the same? If they added a new screen for example for a new laptop in MSI True Color, then the file size should change at least by 1KB. And again, it still doesn't make any sense, why not just give it a small bump in the version number as to not confuse other people. like 2.1.2.1. It's not that difficult.
     
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    Dragon Center updated to 2.4.1811.0201
     
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    nVIDIA Graphics Driver updated to 417.35
     
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    Realtek Audio Driver updated to 6.0.1.8573
     
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    SteelSeries Engine updated to 3.13.4
     
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    Realtek S5250 Card Reader Driver updated to 10.0.17763.21311
     
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    Aquantia LAN Driver downgraded back to the official version from MSI 2.1.005.0 due to random disconnects with the latest version from Aquantia.

    Ultra Male = [​IMG]
     
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    !@#$ING been doing this to me...
     
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    I checked your LAN Driver. you have the official MSI one. Are you saying that even with that you're getting these random disconnects?
     
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    Yeah I have 2.1.5.0. I think by telling windows to not put it to sleep it fixed it. Hasn't dropped it since.
     
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    The Silent Option is 2 years old, which one am I supposed to use for the GT75?
     
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    This is the only one I know of:

    MSI Silent Option

    I don't even use that. I just let the fans do their thing automatically and never had any issues.
     
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  27. Beemo

    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    I just noticed you said not to install Dragon Center, does that mean you overclock directly from the BIOS? I'm interested to see your BIOS settings.
     
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    When I had a GT73VR Titan Pro, I used to overclock it to 4.4 GHz and that was done through the BIOS you're right.

    With the GT75 and its 8950HK CPU, I don't need to overclock it and even if I could, the thermals would shoot up so I don't want to be constantly worried about that.

    The 8950HK is a very powerful CPU even at stock speeds which are 4.8 GHz on 1 core and goes all the way down to 4.3 GHz on all 6 cores.

    Now, I do change the VR Current Limit as the default VR Current limit will throttle the CPU so I set that to 800 in the BIOS which means 200A in XTU because that value is divided by 4 in the BIOS.

    The problem with the Dragon Center is upon rebooting, it will reset the VR Current Limit back to stock which makes the CPU Throttle. But yes I do everything in the BIOS. I don't like XTU or ThrottleStop either. (the latter I won't use even if you paid me)
     
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    With my GT75VR no issues with the latest driver. Did you find some messages in the windows logs?
     
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    Also seeing alot of "Aquantia AQtion 10Gbit Network Adapter : Network link is lost." in event viewer
     
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    Yeah that's the error message I was getting with the new driver
     
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    Any Windows Update installed?
    Since i use the latest driver from aquantia i never had any lost connection messages only with the driver before a lot.
     
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    All Windows updates installed, I'm getting the error even with older MSI Official Driver:

    2019-01-01_013102.jpg
     
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    Yeah same here, don't know if it is related but it seems my NIC stalls too, everything crawls to a halt.

    Also @Ultra Male Will the BIOS in the first post be the same as the ones you gave me? With all the "default settings" as it would come, or am I better off trying to tweak from scratch?
     
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    Checking my Logs again and since 12/14/2018 i have the same entrys but i never lost connection over lan.
    What i can say is that the warning logs for the Aquantia starts after installation of KB4470788 which was done 12/14/2018.
     
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    - Fix spontaneous disconnects and data path stuck on AQC111 :bigrolleyes:
    Let the games starting ;)
     
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    Ultra Male = [​IMG]
     
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    @JeanLegi

    Just did a speedtest, I got my best speed with these drivers and my lowest ping rate. Previously used to have a 4 to 5 ms ping rate

    2019-01-03_051003.jpg
     
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    Alrighty then, lets see what this does! It throws an error on every restart.

    Also have this popping up now too,
    The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load for the device ACPI\ENE0110\5&3993433c&0.
     
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    0 issues here, nothing in Event log even like before.

    did you make sure to unblock the ZIP file before extracting it by right clicking on it > Properties > Unblock from the bottom right since you now don't have the Ultra Male tweaked OS? If you don't unblock a file then it might not install properly.
     
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    Ill try reinstalling he wifi, that seems to be what that error is linked to.
     
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    Ignore that error. I have no idea what that is. I get it also. It's something to do with some embedded controller option. From what little I could find, it's something related to some "Radio switch" thing.
     
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    Aquantia AQtion 10Gbit Network Adapter : Network link is lost.

    On every reboot, hell there is not even a Cat6 connected. I am using WiFi...
     
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    I already "fixed" that through Group Policy.
     
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    I have no before test. i still have warnings of the connection lost after booting and i think that is not a driver related issue i have several other failure and warnings but i'm to lazy to spent my time for more troubleshooting for things which making no trouble.
    my taptop is running fine and all games are playable :cool:

    I have 100Mbps download and 40 Mbps upload..

    Speedtest.jpg
     
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    Speedtest.jpg Yeah, I have wiped this laptop 3 times and the WLAN error is there on a FRESH 1809 install...lol

    !@#$
     
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    Damn it i get even more failure reports :D WTF i have done? Nothing so far.
     
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    Intel Thunderbolt Driver 1.0.2.26 added to the OP with instructions on how to update the driver
     
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