MSI Skylake Laptop predictions

Intel seems not to be gimping the mobile K versions like they do on the desktop. I think the CM236 is more for the Xeons anyway but MSI saw a reason to put those in the GT72S.

 

It's probably for the reason that they felt a need to make a product to stand out, such as ASUS is releasing a water-cooled GX700 (MSI had used this PN in the past).
http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GX700.html#hero-overview

 

Yeah. Asus's liquid cooling seems gimmicky to me. The only reason I can see for it us if there's heavy overclocking going on with it. It's not like the GS30 dock that holds a a beefier video card or something.

 

Yup, that's the reason everyone is probably going to ask, "what's the extra cooling going to do for me?", "will I be able to overclock with this cooling system?", etc.

 

I would have been impressed if they squeezed an effective liquid cooling system in the chassis.

 

superguy25, can you please post link(s) where you saw that? VT extensions are important... thanks

 

Sure thing. I'm on my phone so they be mobile. Ark.intel.com is a great place to check out specs on chips and chipsets.

HM170: http://ark.intel.com/m/products/90584#@product/specifications

CM236: http://ark.intel.com/m/products/90593#@product/specifications

I believe all mainstream chipsets support most VT extensions. It's the VT-d (direct I/O) Intel seems to be stingy with.

 

superguy, thanks for catching that, VT-d is important to me at times, so I guess I will need to pursue the Mobile Intel® CM236 Chipset (Intel® GL82CM236 PCH) for this generation.

I am using the HM87 now with VM's and VT-d support:
http://ark.intel.com/m/products/75528#@product/specifications

What high end models are using the CM236, either HQ or Desktop CPU?

 

Wrong thread.

 

Internal look of GT72 with 6820hk+970m

Its ssd module


Boring boring Chelsea

 

Is there a US price for that? And is that a GT72 or 72S?

 

Hi!

I found here a review of the new keyboard MSI: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2978...d-thunderbolt-3-0-for-new-gaming-laptops.html.

Here you can see a comparison of the old and new keyboard: http://imgur.com/a/syD58. Surely in the new laptops with Skylake will be used so cheap keycaps with stickers instead of a full keys?

 

Oh I'm not liking the preliminary report on that keyboard.

 

I do look forward to getting these new keyboards in hand so we can check them out. Wondering mostly about the "sticker" comment and if it really is just a sticker put on top of a clear key. The reason for the change was to get a brighter backlit keyboard, so its is with good intentions in mind.

 

Depending on the reception, could the "original" keyboard from earlier series be a customizable option at shops like yours?

 

We can definitely see if MSI will source us just the keyboards. But they may be hard to get if they stopped production on those to move to these new ones.

 

The report on the keyboard doesn't mean much, because no matter what design MSI uses, it's usually intended for the better, but some will always like/dislike the changes.
According to MSI, this keyboard is printed directly on to the top but not sticker type, additionally, this is to provide more light (or bleeding per some).

 

Yeah, I read about it on the news sites that MSI was planning on making the backlight brighter for their new keyboards. I think they did mention a while ago that they would loose the sides of the keys, so no wonder it is clear type plastic on the sides now.

As long as it feels good when using, it is for the better. But as always, some will find it bothersome.

 

I personally liked the change to the keyboard on what I've seen so far. They didn't look like a sticker at all, or seem cheapened compared to the current one, from my short time checking it out. I suppose if someone doesn't like the amount of light, you could always dim the brightness as well.

 

It's not sticker as reported by some websites, this is the same type of keys as they were before except with the clear sides. But the light bleeding can be an issue for sure so yeah dim the brightness is a good idea to reduce it.

 

Great info guys. Thank you all!

 

Right. Let me rephrase. I wasn't thinking that it may be a sticker, but doesn't look like one. But I was meaning that it didn't look like the top of the keys had changed to a sticker.

 

No worries, if MSI is doing things right we all support them, otherwise we stand with consumers if they don't.

 

The base plastic in the original keys has to be clear with a coating not covering some areas as much to allow light through, I would imagine production units simply not covering the edge to make the light brighter (which is something they were advertising for the new models IIRC).

 

Gt80 lets go MSI COME ONNNNN

 

Agreed - pls release the new gt80. Can't wait much longer

 

Better they release it properly rather than rush it though

 

u gotta get one of these meaker, or are you still waiting for broadwell-E in 3mo?

 

refer to previous MSI model, I guess GT72 & GT72S will share the same modules

 

When are we going to be able to order the skylake versions in the US??

 

Sept 27th is the latest release date I have seen.

 

Found this on MSI India Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...709692666:tl_objid.1069847586359345&__tn__=*s

 

They're on sale at GenTech PC right now.

Interested in this one myself

 

They are down again I can only get to it through the link you provided

 

Hmm... Perhaps by the time my money sorts itself out all the laptops will be released. That said don't really want to wait that long either xD

 

Various MSI Skylake models have been appearing and disappearing on XoticPC's site for the past week or two. Had a GT72 Pro. model in my cart earlier, then when I checked it again a little while after adding it to my cart, it was gone.

 

LOL

 

Do you know what the price might be for the new GT80 Skylake? How did the Skylake GT72's price compare to the non skylake model?

 

More than likely they were loading up web pages with specs, and wasn't intended to go live obviously.

 

Well in that case you guys might be able to tell me if the price is going to increase or not

 

Honestly not sure on that. I don't see much of the pricing until it actually changes.

 

Actually, it is still in my cart. Price as configured is $2192 (disappointed that they aren't offering 16GB SO-DIMMS as an option to maximize RAM, only option was 3x 8GB SO-DIMMS or 1x 8GB SO-DIMM):

MSI GT72 Dominator Pro G-034
- No XOTIC PC Gear
- Yes, I would like XOTIC PC’s White Glove Premium Packaging (XPC Service)
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- No Certificate & Binder
- None
- 2 Year MSI US/Canada Parts & Labor 1 Year Global Warranty w/ Lifetime Tech Support
+ 1 Year Accidental Damage Warranty (Requires Registration within 30 Days from Ship Date) (SKU - WTY007)
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- No Back Up Software
- Windows 10 - 64-Bit (Pre-Installed)
- Keep factory installed operating system
- No thanks, do not create backup recovery DVD's
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system
- No Notebook Cooler
- No External Keyboard
- Stock MSI SteelSeries™ Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Headset
- No Fingerprint Reader
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Standard US Power Cord
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Car Adapter
- No Carrying Case
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/SDHC/SDXC)
- Integrated FHD Digital Video Camera (30fps@1080p)
- No TV Tuner
- No Network Accessory
- Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Dual Band Wireless-AC N1535 - 802.11 AC/A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth 4.0 [M.2 Chip] (SKU - WIFI635)
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- Slim - 8x Super Multi DVDRW/CDRW Combo Drive (Dual Layer w/ Software) (SKU - ODD046)
- Remove Hard Drive
- No M.2 SSD Drive
- No M.2 SSD Drive
- No M.2 SSD Drive
- 256GB Solid State Drive [M.2] SSD - Stock
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- MSI Logo [White] - Stock
- M.2 Option: Operating System Installed [Default] w/ M.2(s) selected below
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- Standard Laptop Finish
- 24GB DDR4 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (3x8GB SODIMMS)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (4.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell)
- Stock OEM Thermal Compound ( IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU Provided FREE with Processor Upgrade!)
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 IPS Matte Type Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080)
- 6th Generation Intel® Skylake™ i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz - 3.5GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache)
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- 1 Year "No Dead Pixel" Guarantee (XPC Service)
- FREE! – FEDEX Ground SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- No Back-to-School Special
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- Special Upgrade Package – “the Cooling Package” – IC Diamond Thermal Compound + Copper Cooling Upgrade (XPC Service) [$104.00 Value!]
- No Back-to-School Special
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- No XOTIC PC / GEEK FUEL
- FREE! - Mystery Gift
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The fan is almost completely silent during benchmarking on GT72:

 

MSI hasn't release new price list for their GT80 yet, only the GT72, GE72, GS70, GE62 and GS60 Ghost. So we don't know yet.

 

Wow. Is that from the new Skylake GT72? Impressive stuff. looks as though it's going to be an very quiet machine, even during gaming.

I was saving up for an Broadwell one with an 980m inside of it, but just recently switched my attention to the new upcoming Skylake model as I've learned from the past that it's best to go for the latest model of any product, as long as you can afford it.

 

Based on the GT72 skylake stock versus the old stock gt72, can you predict if the price will increase?

 

No, it's a different class of product so a change in one does not imply the other has to change.

 

If you have the GT72 6820hk version is the CPU bins locked to a max of 4ghz as MSI mentioned in their press release? Is this lock at 1 core or all 4 cores at 4ghz because I expect the GT80 to possibly be treated in the same way.

 

Looks like MSI is blaming Intel for the later release when they're shipping Skylake laptops in other countries. So, I'll blame them too.

That said, most of the models I've seen are the "lite" versions of the Nvidia cards, 3 or 4 GB instead of 6 or 8 GB cards. It wasn't too hard to find the beefier cards before, but that seems to have changed. Is there a shortage of the the memory heavy cards, or is MSI trying to keep prices down, or what's the deal?

Also, anyone see if there's a premium on the 6820HK over the 6700HQ? Intel lists the chips as the same price, but that doesn't mean MSI and others won't charge more.

Lastly, how much of a price difference is there between the GT72 and GT72S?

 

I hope the 8gb gpus dont become 4gb gpus!