MSI entire lineup from 2013 with Haswell and 700M series

Couldn't agree more. If you have legitimate trouble carrying a 5.2 pound laptop as opposed to a 4.4 then you have a problem lol. The weight difference will be almost non-existent in the real world. Only reason I would get the ge40 is no need for bigger screen and probably better battery life.

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The ge60 is certainly the better deal. However, I'd only go for the ge40 if the ge60 offers anything less than 5 hours of battery life under normal use. Hopefully there will be more reviews coming out in the next couple days.

 

New info on the GS70 Stealth

MSI GS70 Stealth ultra-portable gaming laptop launched - hands on | Expert Reviews

 

Oh my. That's a nice machine. GS60 Stealth next please MSI.

EDIT: Some better pictures http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/17104-msi-tillkannager-den-tunna-gamingdatorn-gs70-stealth

 

O man... I would be in heaven if they made a GS60. I would be throwing money at my screen for days until I got it.

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Woah that GS series will be a serious contender to the Razer.

I bet it will be cheaper, and even at the same price, MSI has msata raid 0 advantage, as well as multiple monitor output.

 

Fresh new MSI GE70 review
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I kinda wish the GT series looked like the GE series. It looks really good.

 

Yeah, the GE70 is pretty nice looking. But too thin for the high end components the GT-series use

 

Well, the main issue would be the components chosen then. Personally I prefer the GT look

 

The GE60 is the better deal if you really need something with a slightly bigger screen and to use as a desktop replacement and the addition of the backlit keyboard and numpad. However, some people are going to want a 13-14" laptop like myself because of its better portability. It's not the weight that's the problem, it's the dimensions, and a 13-14" will be dimensionally smaller than a 15-17".


I'd rather have a 5-6lb machine in a 13-14" than a 15.6"-17" dimensionally bigger and wider laptop that weighs only 4lb.

 

Same here. The GT60 is much more visually appealing to me.

I'm debating between the GE60 loaded with warranty, or going to the GT60 with 770M and doing upgrades myself and forfeiting the warranty. It's tough to justify more money and weight and only step up to the 770M (I can't justify the 780M), but I'd hazard to bet that the 770M in the GT60 will run cool and quiet in comparison to the GE60, and give good overclocking headroom.

When I look at them on paper, the GE60 is the obvious choice for my uses, but when I look at the with my eyes, I'm drawn to the GT60. I'm waiting for the reviews before making a purchase.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

 

New unboxing of GE40 codename "Dragon Eyes" in foreign Asian language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXfaEGNL-c4

 

I see that Gentechpc now has the GE40 available from mid June...

I would love to get some data on its battery life. I can live with the slightly less powerful GPU (vs the GE60), but if it cannot last at least 5 hours on an airplane, then it becomes a more shaky value proposition for me (I often get stuck on LOOOOOONG flights ).

 

Buy it then give us a review. You can always return it w/o restocking fee

 

She said steel series...now I'm scared.
I'll probably wait for reviews before making any decisions.

 

Scared from what?

 

Steel series keyboard.
I have had very bad luck with them and missed keystrokes.

 

I think this problem has been fixed in this current generation of MSI laptops. Haven't seen one complaint

 

LOL. I see what you did there.

 

I've had my share of issues with the GT60-0NE so I'll just wait to see what people have to say about the GE40.

 

Steelseries keyboard also suffers from some of the 3key combination ghosting horror issue. Hopefully the new MSI lineup and Clevo that will be using steelseries won't have this problem.

 

And here I thought the "Steelseries gaming keyboards" in laptops had any use for, like, eliminate ghosting, better response or something. You know, useful features for gamers.

What's the point of a gaming keyboard that seems to lack any differentiator? Backlight isn't for sure, as it's present in plenty of "non-gamer" laptops.

I don't like the Windows Key placement in the GE60, I don't see the point of crippling most Windows shortcuts, especially in Windows 8, to remove a key that it's unlikely to be stricken anyway. Despite that I thought that the keyboard had some merits to it (my desktop keyboard is a Steelseries Merc Stealth and I LOVE IT).

 

This hands on review of the GE40 seemed happy with the keyboard - MSI GE40 Hands-On: 14-inch Laptop Promises Lightweight Gaming

They also posted this video - MSI GE40 Hands-On - YouTube

 

I completely agree. If I could, I would install a different keyboard in the laptop because it is frustrating to correct missed keystrokes The issue is mainly if you don't press the center of the key, so if you hit the bottom right of the spacebar, it won't register.

See my GT60. Play in HD, still a bit blurry though, but you can see I had backspace issues so the "Test" text did not delete. Also the spacebar barely registered at all after pressing it a lot. I also has similar issues in the Sager NP9130
MSI GT60-403US Keyboard Issues - YouTube

I can't tell much from this vid because he doesn't even type on it. I'll wait for personal reviews because I'm waiting for the sager to be released anyways.

 

I really wish they would have changed the top of the GE60 and GE70 to look something more like the GE40, or even the GT series, the really shiny finger print magnet on the GE series is really lame, if they had changed that I would buy it no questions asked.

 

Thanks Benchmade. Unfortunately I am based in Australia - the postage is about $120 ( and 2 weeks) in each direction, which makes it a pretty expensive experiment

 

I feel your pain. I might get it next week from Xoticpc/Gentechpc but it will all depend on the Alienware announcement and if they improved and fix the annoyances on the M14x R3.

Right now M14x is my first priority followed by the GE40 then the Clevo 13".

 

I just got finished looking over all the new GE60,GE70,GT60 and GT70 models offered on the main electronics site,danawa.com,here in Seoul and I see that every one of the models has an upgraded model with Super Raid 1 or Super Raid 2.

Along with Haswell 4700MQ/NVIDIA GTX765M,Super Raid 1 is now available in some GE models.

The GE60-20E and GE70-20E have Super Raid 1 models

The GT60-20C and GT70-20C have Super Raid 2 models

The GT60-20D and GT70-20D have Super Raid 2 models

The bad news is that the mSATA SSDs in the Super Raid 1/2 are OEM SanDisk that are known for their low 4K QD1 writes.

The GT60 and GT70 Ivy Bridge models sold here had Super Raid models as do the new Haswell GT60/GT70 20C/20D but this is a 1st for GE60 and GE70 models with their Super Raid options.

The Dragon Edition 2 listing here has the Haswell 4930MX CPU.and 3 x 128GB Super Raid 2

 

Msi are using a newer sandisk model than last time.

 

The X100s are not much better than the U100s were if at all and the X100 is already replaced with the X110.

Never go by the big sequential read and write numbers when looking at synthetic benchmarks.They are important only in about 1% of daily disk access.

About 80% of daily disk access measured in microsoft's diskmon are small file reads and writes with the majority being small file writes.

How's the stock Super Raid 2 4K QD1?

Not very good for 3 SSDs in raid0.

Anyone serious about Super Raid should look at replacing the stock Sandisk mSATA SSDs.

 

I grabbed a 240GB Mushkin Direct Atlas Deluxe when Amazon had them on special for $177 a couple of weeks ago :thumbsup: - all I need now is one of these babies to install it in...

 

That's a nice SATA III mSATA SSD.

If you order something like a GT70-20D 001US from Gentech or other reseller that would replace the stock SanDisk X100 very nicely but you'll need at least 2 240GB Muskin Atlas to do the Super Raid.

The GT70-20D 001US is the one I'm seriously looking at without the hard drive and ODD.I'd like to get it with an Intel AC-7260 wireless card since Killer doesn't have a 3 antenna 802.11ac wireless card.....yet.

 

Yes, I agree that I probably should have gotten two of them , however, I plan on getting a GE40 as my aeroplane laptop, so it will accommodate the single Atlas quite nicely :hi2:

 

Here are many GS70 Stealth pictures from Computex. And some movies. Awesome notebook
BTW: The touchpad can show pictures

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Very nice, if I wasn't set on getting a laptop with a GTX 780M I would be looking at these very hard.

 

Or go for a lower model and build it up from there.

 

Hi!
I've owned the MSi GT627 since june 2009, and I'm now ready to move on (yes, it's still working, but gaming has become hard). That thing outlived my previous Dell...

I'm interested in the gt60 2OC 003US. The graphic card seems very good, 12 gb ram is plenty, the processor is fine and the screen size fits my needs. And, furthermore, what is most important, the price is in my budget (my SO is watching me over this!). However, one of my good friend (who gave me some advices and who owns a MSi) told me to buy one with a SSD. The 003US doesn't come with a SSD and the 2OC 024US is out of my budget for now. Now, I never had a SSD and I don't even know how faster it is in comparison to a normal HD, but he swears it's the best thing ever.

My question in regards to this is : is there two HD bays in the laptop so I can add an SSD later on? Or is it easy to switch to a SSD?

Thanks!
Erythro73

 

Ok to Moses and the others that are interested in the GE40 that hasn't bought it yet, I waited for the announcement of Alienware and M14x and i'm not going to buy that and instead bought the GE40 from XoticPC ( Thanks to Josh of xoticpc).

I should be getting mine by the end of next week and i'll let you guys know about the battery life etc...

 

Hmm, looks like I will get GE60. I will probably get it from Xotic with custom lid skin. That laptop looks smoking until you close the lid and see that fugly finger print magnet lid. lol.

 

I'll be ordering my GE40 early next week... I can't wait to join the club!!!

 

Ordered the new GE60 from Xotic PC just now with custom lid skin plus Rush order and skinning.

I already have a 120gb msata which I will use as OS drive. I opted to have DVD drive removed and replace it with HDD caddy. I haven't used an optical drive for past 4 years.

I can hardly wait (to see how the custom skin lid will turn out).

 

Was looking at the GE40 on overclockers yesterday - and noted that they were listing it with a a 1920x1080 FHD screen - I phoned and queried this and they have since confirmed it was an error and have updated the info to list the correct res (1600x900)

I much prefer 1600x900 on a smaller laptop over FHD, as its easier to see, but more importantly has 30% less pixels to draw, so doesnt stress the GPU as bad, meaning higher framerates.

Anyway, I went ahead and ordered one (the base model without SSD, and added my own decent 256gb plextor mSATA SSD) - it should arrive tommorrow and I'll do some benchmarking and feedback!

I flogged my last 17" clevo because it was just too big to humph around, and its 660m wasn't really doing the business on the 1920x1080 screen. I'm hoping the 1600x900 14" with 760m and 4702MQ should be a good combo for my needs!

Any specific benches people would like to see run tommorrow?

#Wonderdog

 

Thanks Wonderdog - any benchmarks you could do would be great. Personally I am most interested in finding out how long its' battery lasts when not gaming. I am hoping for at least 4 hours.

In terms of gaming, I agree that the lower pixel count should give a relative performance boost.

 

I agree.

You don't want FHD on 14inch screen. 1600 x 900 is just about the perfect for 14inch screen. Text on FHD 15 inch screen is small enough. Personally, I found 1600 x 900 to be perfect for 14 and 15 inch screens. Alas, the trend is FHD on 15 inch and up. I know some want even bigger resolution screens like 4UHD. My Gods, the text would be near dots in that resolution on 15 inch or even on 17 inch.

 

You wont get 4 hours of gaming at any serious level with any chip with dedicated graphics.

 

I am sure those will face a lot of heating issues and you will have those fans run all the time. Everyone is concerned about the GPU heat but that is not the only problem; motherboard also has a lot of parts that get warm and if you have the PCB Diode getting warm after sometime of use, it will drive you nuts in a quite room. I know thin and light is good, but technology is still around the corner to reach to that extend. I prefer light, thin and quite or thick and with a powerful CPU and GPU so that you can get ultimatum performance. Don't mind my comments

 

Thanks Meaker. I had seen that MSI were promoting 3+ hours of gaming with the GE40. I agree that 4 hours is unrealistic.

However many of us are looking at the GE40 for general use as well as for gaming. Thus if it can give 4+ hours of non-gaming use (eg word processing and web surfing for college, or playing movies on an aeroplane) then this would be a strong selling point for many.

Good luck with the rugby.

 

If only scaling was better on Windows..... Microsoft should learn from android. 5' FHD, and the text is superb! . Windows can't cant manage 15' FHD? shame....

 

I was reading on a Singapore user forum that the GE40 has optimus support, so 4 hours of general use using the Intel GPU on the 4702MQ might be entirely realistic.

To be honest, I'm not looking to game untethered from a socket - its really for LAN's and boring business trips / flights.

Drivers are still thin on the ground for the mobile 7xx GTX chips - with any luck performance and power usage should only improve as the drivers mature over the next couple of months.