Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
GT is more powerful therefore it generates higher heat and noise.
GS is lesser powerful than GT.
GE can be the same or lesser powerful to GS.
This depends on your needs.
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You're right, it's gone.
I was reading AlteredQ's guide today ( http://alteredqualia.com/texts/notebooks/) as he had updated it and he had the GS70 as having a TN panel. I thought that was weird as all announced models showed IPS/PLS panels. I thought he was just wrong. But now that you mentioned this, I checked MSI too and you're right.
Wanna hear something even weirder? The cheaper GE72 Skylake is still showing having an IPS panel.
I'm not sure what to think of this. My thinking is MSI may not be able to source enough 17" IPS/PLS panels and only has enough for one line. I'm thinking they think they'll sell more GE72s so that may be a differentiator. I'm not sure how well the GS70 sells (obviously enough to stick around for a new model), so it may just be a manner of prioritizing.
Then again, going cheap on the GS70 seems to be MSI's MO. They didn't put the SuperPort on there either like the other higher end laptops, so I can't say going cheap on the panel is a shock now either.
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How come these 2 replies are conflicting with each other?
For now I will stick to jamesoth's reply as he mentioned that he got a chance to hands on MSI's new SG70 notebook. That means MSI still uses crappy tn panel from Chi Mei in their latest Skylake GS70 notebook lineup Btw thank you very much for
Pepe2020 for sharing those information, but I think those peeps are trying to trick you out. Usually people who are working for some company will never talk about downsides of their products, are they? Also they haven't clearly mentioned that GS70 is specifically using an IPS panel. He's referring to high-end models in general which might mean bulky GT series and GE series. Laptops from both GE and GT lineup had IPS screens for years, even GS60 has an IPS options while superior GS70 has no panels or high res screen options to chose from
I had a huge interest on MSI's GS70 series because of the slim and light build and overall hardware choice, but having a TN screen in a $2k laptop is inexcusable nowadays. I've found some slim and powerful alternatives from Gigabyte which are having slightly better hardware and of course equipped with IPS screens. If you're interested, these are the models:
17 inch
⚫ Gigabyte P37X v4: i7 5700HQ|GTX980M 8GB|Up to 16GB LPDDR3| IPS Display|Optical Drive| HM97 Chipset.
⚫ Gigabyte P37W v4: Same config as above with GTX970M 6GB.
![[IMG]](images/storyImages/20150519101850_big.png)
15 inch
⚫ Gigabyte P35X v4: Same as P37X with GTX980M 8GB but in 15 inch form factor and no macro hub.
⚫ Gigabyte P35W v4: Same as above with 970M 6GB again.
![[IMG]](images/storyImages/20150518204405_big.png)
Now these are previous generation broadwell cpu based machines but soon they'll refresh their lineup with v5 systems equipped with skylake cpus as they mentioned HERE.
Even though MSI laptops has a slightly better design, I think these laptops are a big deal because of the doubled VRAM of the GPU and swappable ODD bay (Either you can keep BR drive or fix another HDD or SSD instead). Also design wise gigabyte laptops aren't looking bad although keyboard, touchpad and lid designing isn't appealing as MSI's tbh. They also packed slightly bigger battery and the best part is dat IPS screen!!!
What do you think? I dunno whether I posted something off topic in the MSI related thread but I also made a thread in official MSI forum to see whether they'll confirm what type of screen they're using for the newer GS70's. You can find it HERE.
Thank you. Please post any updates made on the GS70 because I still have the interest of that beautiful beastly machine.
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Hey.. that fact that there is an chi mei panel its not right i have test the new gs70 in a german mediamarkt store the last 2 days for 2 hours. Msi build in ips and pls displays.. thats why on the website was standing in description wide fiew and not ips screen... the man who spoke to me from msi was a designer from the hardware... he was presenting the new msi notebooks in a mediamarkt store and i have spoken to him... he tell me msi does not build in a tn panel no more.. all 6700hq notebooks comes with an ips or pls display. Ips or pls are the same.. while pls is minimum better its from samsung they called ips own pls. Thats the fact why on the original msi website standing in spec's Full Hd 17.3" Wide Fiew.. so it can be a ips or pls. No tn !!! Call msi on phone they will tell you the same. Tn does not support wide fiew.. only ips and pls does support wide fiew when you looking up the 2 review vids on youtube.. you can see it yourself that there is no tn.. the camera is standing at the right site and realy good colours.. when its where an tn ... you will see it the colours will wash out!!
so on the german msi site was standing full hd wide fiew.. thats the fact the same whats the msi designer was spoken to me on the mediamarkt store!! Tomorrow my model will deliver and than i can make pictures .. you will see thats an ips or pls!! I dont know from where he mind thats an chi mei panel.. thats stupid. The 1735 chi mei is an realy low cost panel with stupid viewing angels and colours.. no new gs70 6qe with the new 6700hq has that panel.. the last Generation yes thats right the gs70 2qe has an chi mei but thats the old model with 5700hq i think he has test an old model and was thinking that was thr new model
the new msi gs70 6qe is so new and only after the 26th september in stores. So i think he don't have tested the newest model.
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After you said, I checked both global msi site, msi gaming site and msi us site for the gs70 specs. Nowhere says it uses "wide view" or any kind of fancy display panel but a general 1080p screen.
Afaik PLS is better than IPS isn't it? Yeah it belongs to samsung and it's an improved samsung's version of ips I guess. Samsung always used to name things wired. For example, they call oled as amoled or something
Btw you've mentioned that wide-view stands for IPS or PLS, I don't think it's correct because a quality TN panel can provide quiet good viewing angles than most cheap IPS panels. IPS or PLS is all about color accuracy and even wider viewing angles.
I also watched the 2 videos that korean people made about these laptop which were linked in the previous replies but I can't see any noticable difference from last generation in terms of display and viewing angles. Anyway we can't see things exact as in real life through camera although I'll wait till actual product come out and somebody will review it
If you get a chance to hands on this new laptop, please don't forget to share a screenshot or a snap from your mobile of a device manager page and monitor hardware id and refresh rate.
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Thanks again for the quick reply mate. I can't wait till tomorrow to find out which hardware that MSI is actually using for their new Skylake notebooks. And yes, in your religion, msi site has "wide-view" text next to the display resolution.
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Sorry. This wasn't the new model. My bad
Here you go! Another new gs70 related video...
A screenshot of the device manager in new gs70 6qe that I found from the text review of the korean guy. He hasn't expanded the monitor section though.
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Yes thats the same what the msi man was talking to me.. that all msi gs70 6qe has the wide fiew panel all over the world.. thats an technical problem why that feature is not on the us site.. on the german site i posted. . Few days ago wide fiew was standing in specs.. then past 2 days .. I've looking and the wide fiew was gone and I've thinking whats that ****... then till yesterday there where standing wide fiew same as few days ago. Msi don't know what they doing on there site.. msi gs70 6qe are the same version all over the world.. only the keyboard is another from region to region.
But one thing i wouldn't know...
Is there a small bag as gift like the small bag what comes with the last gs70 versions? Or does there only the notebook in package. i know the bag does only cost minimal dollars but it were nice to have it.
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man I know there are only 8gb modules thought there will be 4x slots
shame they didnt add one more pcie x4 imagone put two SSD in RAID 0
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Hmm but did you realize that even last generation gs70 has "wide-view" option in other religions? But they were actually TN panels Anyway let's see your luck tomorrow.
Yep I saw that new addition as well but I didn't checked the detailed specs as it looks like ge series at first glance. Btw you're talking about the red dragon thing right? I'm not sure it comes with the GS70s but I saw that it is available when you get the limited edition dominator laptop with desktop 980 graphics. Note that if you know the famous tech reviewer linus tech, he reviewed a gs70 unit long while ago and he says that buyers will get that pack with the dragon toy. -
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as long as the screen gonna have perfect viewing angles am not bothered if it's ips or pls or gps (only joking with gps)
If the screen is from samsung it is gonna be very good and it will be similar to AMOLED with rich colors.. like in their smartphones..
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Hehehe my thoughts exactly Samsung makes excellent displays, even the one that comes with gs60 is super awesome!!! If your priority is gaming, I suggest you to stick to TN panels as they offer much lower response times. But if your main priority is color intensive work or entertainment, then only you will need a color accurate IPS display with wide viewing angles. When you're gaming you're not supposed to look at the display in various angles.. lol
As far as I know, 17" quality IPS panels are very rare. May be that's why MSI keeps using those TN panels for years now. Also almost every laptop display is LCD or LED based rarely you'll find a OLED screen in a laptop unless it's a super thin and expensive ultrabook.Last edited: Oct 8, 2015 -
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Thats right.. samsung panels calling pls are very good. Is it right that msi build in various displays in various regions? So in us tn and in germany and uk and also in Europe ips or pls? Perhaps in last generation of gs70? Stupid thing. But the same what samsung doing with theyr smartphones. . In europe there comes an exynos and in us and Thailand. . China and other will be a snapdragon... but this year all msi gs70 have an wide fiew all over the world. Right when you're a gamer.. you'll better go with an tn you don't need andy good perfect colours and viewing angels because they looking right from the same position at the screen... 10 to 20ms at a pls wide fiew screen are not bad at all... people who render picture etc and work with adobe programms.. a pls or ips is so important for me and for those people because the colours are nearby the right point from s rgb and adobe rgb .. thats what people looking for. I hope that the panel i have in my model that will deliver tomorrow... is nearby 100% srgb thats what msi say on the webpage... truecollour.. and i hope also that the panel can put out more than 60% of adobe rgb.. but only a site looking like notebookcheck can test the right display colours with they technical equipment.. i am so nervous till the post man bring me the package.. man man man ill be waiting
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Can't wait for tomorrow you will up pictures.. which color did u order ? silver or black ? I love silver it is gorgeous
Nice on friday you will get it .. BEST time
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In germany is only one version of colour. . The black version.... but i think black is beautiful..
I have my parcel tracking number that say it comes today.. but german deliverer are not so good.. they say oh it comes today.. but than it come tomorrow so today I'll be waiting ohoh ... today i get my Christmas present
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I can get this 6QE from ebay now and one site save on laptops and overclockers site.
http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-177515-010-MSI-GS70-6QE(Stealth-Pro)-010UK_1837470.html
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...d=google/pla&gclid=CPS0u7-8tMgCFQcIwwodG_cMiQ
Here is silver but mega expensive dunno why
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-GS70-...TB-Notebook-/272003844796?hash=item3f54b14abc
EDIT : actually guys if u check on overclockers site they stating that the screen is IPS
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Thats because the silver model is only designed now for usa and chinese / japan. Later next year this version comes to europe. The price is expensive because theyr import and fright costs! I think he import this gs70 in silver from japan or china.. but its not a technical delicious thing that there is an silver version its only an design factor. So from prices. . You'll better go with the blacked version.. there you can see lower finger prints on the bottom and top etc.. lower crutches when you put in in your bag or anywhere.. at the silver version you can see everything not so finger prints.. but you can see more crutches
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Of cause silver edition is firstly designed for all who lived in china .. taiwan.. japan usa.. etc. When msi sell theyr first packages to the customer who sell these .. europe are the last msi was send out the silver model's.. thats a normal procedure from msi. First you can buy the normal black edition than later the comes the silver edition to europe the same whats going on with the gs70 2qe black silver red. First there was the blacked.. than two month later the silver and red version. My last model was an silver gs70 at the end of 2013. I think the first gs70? I never would by no more a silver edition... I've put it into my bag and go every day to work with it.. after 3 month many many stupid scratches on the silver model ive worry about that.. i mean ok.. thats a normal thing the same scratches ive seen on my surface pro 3 at the backside. My msi gs30 in black never have these problems.. i go out.. put in in bag where my home keys are also in.. many lower scratches as my silver model because the black is more resistant to scratches thats the same thing with every silver metal product on marked. The same what you can look up to the silver sony vaio notebooks.. or hp notebooks in silver.. they also have many scratches after 3 or 4 month daily usage. I know thats only a optical thing.. many people would say.. man its no matter that there are scratches but i am a designer too and when there comes an consumer to me.. he looked up at my notebook full of scratches? ! Not a good way for me
thats why ive choosing the black. Does the silver version worst the higher price? More than 600 or more? No. I dont pay 600 bugs more only that i have the silver version in my hands. When i would another colour i wold buy some sticker foil in my favourite colour thats always a protection layer too
and a blacked one look so much more an gamer than an silver.. much darker.. much like an power machine
the most gamer notebooks are black.. and the producer know why
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Hmm true that. That's a decent display btw. I hope you're playing not very demanding titles because those ultrabooks are mostly equipped with intel HD and nvidia GT (non "x") graphics.
Actually I got to know about MSI laptops through my friends. One bought a GE62 and I was impressed about the specs and the price, then other guy bought a gs60 ghost I was totally shocked when I realize how thin and light it is. Later I did my own research finding out what are the other offerings from MSI and I ended up being a diehard fan of gs70 stealth. Since then I loved asus and their rog series products because of the brand image, very positive customer feedbacks and reviews. But eventually their laptops got bigger and uglier with more powerful hardware to cool 'em down but I think they're still doing well in performance laptop market than any other company.
Nowadays all notebook manufacturers are missing the point of the use of notebook. They want to pack highest end hardware inside such as desktop grade cpus and gpus in laptops and end up having a thick and bulky notebook which isn't possible to carry around. Of course higher end hardware requires better cooling therefore you can't have both high end hardware and slim body at once, instead we have mobile quad core cpus and 960m/970m laptops in a reasonable size and weight such as gs70
It doesn't matter you're getting your christmas present today or tomorrow but we're eagerly waiting till you reveal the mystery behind screen. If possible, please make an unboxing video and a short review and first impressions of the product in a new thread here and don't forget to link it here Also black is a decent choice! I think fingerprints are less visible in darker colors and looks a lot better than colored versions. This is entirely your personal preference mate.
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Woah!!! This is a very good sign that they've officially listed that laptop is using an IPS screen Btw don't you like gold color red color? I personally like black color though. Colorful body distracts you when you're gaming. One thing I don't like about MSI is that the led light around the power button. I think it cannot be disabled and it's very annoying when you're gaming. However MSIs are a lot better than ones with colored accents and led lighting all around the laptop
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Yes i will do an quick review of the gs70 6qe i have an realy good cam a sony alpha 6000 so i make a vid of unboxing
i cant wait till its here..
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You had 2qe silver ?? .. so is the finish not good quality when it get scratched easily ??
But I won't carry laptop out I will leave it on the desk all the time... I was thinking to buy 30'' 4k monitor (maybe)
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Well when I was buying this V7 back in 2013 I was looking for highest GPU and I could only find it in germany on ebay just for £700 and I have Intel HD 4400 + Nvidia GT 750M and you not gonna believe I can play any new games on full hd some of them with lower detail (high nor ultra still same visuality)
or 1366x768 and sometimes 720p
For example I played mad max on Full hd no problem
new horror soma 1366x768 very good
YOu won't believe but this laptop still manages plenty games
and look how nice and thin it is
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When you put in only in desktop.. its no problem with scratches on the silver model's it can look like new after one year.. but i use it every day. And there is an silver version not the right I've chosen. But when it all ways stand on top of your table no matter
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But looking right at the description of overclockers.. in specs of gs70 6qe when you scroll down there was listet 15" ips wide fiew .. so you can see that overclockers has a fail in the description they don't know what they sell
New MSi GS70 6QE ! IPS Screen WOOW NICE !
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