New MSi GS70 6QE ! IPS Screen WOOW NICE !

Yeah even they've few mistakes in the specs though. They stated that it uses HM87 chipset which is impossible. For Skylake and DDR4 it must come with HM170. I dunnp what's wrong with these people. Even MSI is not good at promoting their own product with proper specs so what else can we talk about shopping sites?

Hmm that was a good deal on that time. Of course those GPUs can handle most modern titles under 1080p around 30 fps but the actual problem is VRAM and the bandwidth isn't enough.

 

That's a great camera! Can't wait to see the shiny new gs70 and definitely the viewing angles and color accuracy. Don't forget to snap some stills in various angles before you power the beast up! Build material is the same as previous generation isn't it? Brushed aluminium design right?

 

I give you right... msi is not good in promotion theyr own notebooks.. msi would be the number one.. but they cant promote. . There are more than 20 online shops they sell the new gs70 and every has another description .. i dont know why? The us site of msi look not similar to the german site. Ive asking msi on theyr facebook site.. but no response.. thats realy bad. Info service and question reply are not msi theyr best things what they can do. Other manufacturers can it better than msi.

 

Something off the screen: are you okay with the MSI's weired keyboard layout? Specially they've repositioned some keys. For example, windows key and delete key. Moving the windows key to the right is a big deal for mmo and fps gamers but for a person like me, who plays racing/driving titles most of the time, I don't want the windows key near the arrow keys. Also the numeric keypad is also bit weired isn't it? The worst I found is the position of the delete key. So deficult to get used to it because other 99.9% laptops have delete key right above backspace but MSI have moved that right further

 

Yeah the same last gen. With the 5700hq. The buildis quality is very good so thats why msi don't change the design language .. only that the display is a lillte bit flexible but thats owing the slim design. Its stable but more flexible than other manufacturers displays in metal with a thicker display..

 

Other than that, do you have any bad experience about MSI's customer support? I've never owned a single MSI product before but this year I'm really looking forward to buy new gs70. I've made few questions in their official english forum but rarely a staff member will reply for those, instead a community member will suggest some opinions and that's all. I never tried the voice support though.

 

Do you think flexible displays are good? I prefer more solid screen for that price. Apart from that, they've also upgraded internal audio components to more premium options isn't it? I will wait till your pics and classification and thereafter gigabyte's new skylake lineup. So I can compare side by side and find which one suites me the best. I personally don't like MSI's keyboard layout, that's a big deal for me

 

Yeah thats a problem thats owing to the steelseries keyboard.. the enter key are also smaller than other keyboards like asus g751 or other manufacturers. You must like it or no an look up to another manufacturer. But this year steel series get an update in theyr new model's have you seen that? Now its silver printed keys.. more response.. more flexible.

But do you know you that msi has a programm to manage the keys in games? So you can manage in programm when you're gaming that the windows key is of.. or you can move the windows key digital in the programm to another key. Thats a good feature what other notebooks not have.

 

Thats right.. msi dont give response when you have questions.. only when you call the technical info Hotline.

 

Mhh.. thats an technikal Problem.. slim displays always more flexible than thicker displays.. msi displays are good.. but when you would buy the slimmest gamer notebook you should go with more flexible display cover than on thicker notebooks like asus g751 or the msi gt series. But i can life with that issue owing by the slimness.. better than a half tonne machine like gt series or asus or whatever more than 3kg

 

Yeah their silver lining looks sick from angles, also the multi-color kb is awesome!! Only thing I don't like is the key positioning. Even though keys are slightly smaller, we can eventually get used to it, but when the layout is different that's a serious pain

I know that the windows key can be disabled through software but it's handy to have it enabled in case if I want to jump quick to desktop, I've to use key combo like alt+tab instead of one win key press. I'll think about this further. MSIs choice cannot be wrong but they mainly target fps/mmo gamers and professionals. I personally interested in driving/racing/open world games so I use arrow keys more than WASD keys.

Hmm that's bad to here Anyway thanks for everything mate. That really means a lot!

 

But msi are very good in technical support when anything is broken on zhe notebook.. there was a problem on my usb port.. I've called msi.. 2 days later the post man pick up the parcel.. and a week later i have it back with a new housing all around the msi notebook.. have looking like new on an old asus notebook .. the service was so bad. Sony too..

What do you think about the new acer predator g9? Also good with gsync ips full hd display also an option to 4k

 

Well, that's good actually.

Btw I have no interest about acer notebooks. I've owned many cheap 768p ones for years and their build quality and keyboard is the worst. Also they won't give immediate driver updates for systems when new operating systems are released and they keep doping support for recent models when new model came out. All laptops I used are from "aspire" series so I have no idea about "predator" series. They must be better but I can't expect highest build quality and powerful internals from acer Their online support sucks too.

4k on a laptop is pointless nowadays as most people are suffering from scaling issues with windows. I think 1080p is more than enough and gsync would be a great deal for gamers as long as they use quality IPS panels without locked refresh rates under 60hz.

*Edit*
The only brand that I'm interested now is the gigabyte and their p series notebooks. They simply offer everything I want without any fancy multi-color kb, colorful accents or shiny look. Kb is lit up in white just like macbook and key positioning looks nearly perfect. Keys are also in standard size, win key is located in the lefs side and display panels are excellent. For p 35 and p37 they've doubled the GPU VRAM which will be useful in a long run. 17 inch model has 5 macro keys with 5 modes resulting total of 25 customizable keys and even though optical drivers are outdated, as a student we still use those in our college. Also it has a vga out port therefore we can directly connect the machine to the projector when presenting. If i get the msi one, I've to carry an external odd and hdmi 2 vga adapter as well.

 

Gigabyte are a small player at gamer notebooks.. thats an fact.. yes its right. The msi keyboard does light up in many colours but you can use only one.. the msi keyboard can lit in white too have read that? You can chose also only one colour when you need it. So all in white.. all in red.. green or so what you want.. thats so good!! asus has only red backlit.. acer too.. only msi can lit up in various colours or in only one you've chosen!

 

Hey. Guys .. my msi 70 is now arrived.. but it have a realy realy bad panel! Creepy manman.. i have called msi whats **** is it.. why i have no ips.. or pls.. they tell me that there is an production problem.. not only me.. there are more then 10 people they called msi why does the website say wide fiew and on the parcel to in description.. but wen ich run hwinfo64 .. its a chimei. He tell me thats a problem because msi only build in ips btw wide fiew panels.. in notebooks with the new 6700hq. He has the same model testet in the.factory office.. and there it was an ips.. pls wide fiew.. on mediamarkt store where i have test the new msi.. there was also an ips. The technical support does mean .. that there is a charge of more than 10.000 units... with this tn panel.. thats the first units whats send out to the customers.. my notebook i have buyed from a german seller.. its not a german branded notebook. When i look at the adress from where it comes.. its Netherlands.. and in netherland there are no wide fiew words in description.. the customer support does mean now only german gs70 does have an ips oder wide fiew now.. because the false production. Now i have an msi ticket. And on monday i will hear from.him because they recognised to me thats an technical problem. No msi gs70 6qe does have an tn. He give me two options.. on Monday they will call me back and will tell me more about that issue. . Then i can get a new msi 70 6qe with am ips or wide fiew display or i get the half money back what i have payed for these gs70 and beware the msi by me.. so i only have payed 1000 euros when i get option two.. .. ill be waiting on monday... stupid msi ..

 

Vaya con dios...
Ask for half money back and b uy some external IPS 30"4k monitor
E.g. this one

 

In my living room i have the newest samsung js9590.. i don't need an external ips too so i think i will have the money and have payed the half of price... realy good deal.. **** of the chimei but for the half of price no matter

 

If they really gonna give you half money back then that is very good deal .. Stick with it ..don't let them to fool you they said half money back !
But I can see now how MSI are bunch of liars..
Then NEVER had an IPS in their laptops not even in one!

 

HEY PEPE2020,
I'm also from Germany and bought a GS70 6QE with 256GB SDD for 1999€ from Amazon. It will delivered directly by Amazon next week and I hope that I'll get the version with the IPS panel.

Where do you bought your GS70?

 

Hey ich habe es bei otto bestellt.. die haben heute zugegeben dass sie auch eu waren verkaufen.. leider. Amazon verschickt ebenfalls eu ware also tn panel.. ich muss aber dazu sagen.. das Display ist nicht so schlecht wie mein erster eindruck war. Blickwinkel sind recht gut einzig von unten nach oben schauend ist es schlecht. Man klappt es ja eh nie ganz nach hinten.. die version mit 256gb ist das standard gerät in uk usw wird glaub ich meist für den selben preis nur die 128gb version angeboten.. fail einfach nur. Ich habe auch mit otto telefoniert.. und mir eine Gutschrift über die Hälfte des preises geben lassen. 1999 bezahlt.. 1000 euro gutschrift auf meinen samsung js9590 den ich derzeit noch abbezahle.. sehr guter deal im großen und ganzen. Amazon ist auch immer sehr kullant im handeln wenn es Probleme gibt.. Weiß ich aus Erfahrung. Leb einfach mit dem gs70 und dem tn panel oder wechsel auf das gs60 6qe welches bei otto derzeit im angebot ist mit 4k ips Display! ! 2199 sehr gut!!

 

Ich habe deinen Beitrag über das IPS Panel nur durch Zufall gefunden und hätte mir das GS70 höchstwahrscheinlich auch so gekauft. Von daher ist es nicht ganz so tragisch.

Das GS60 habe ich mir vorher auch angeschaut, aber da das GS70 nur ca.1cm länger und breiter ist, dafür aber das größere Display hat, habe ich mich am Ende für das GS70 entschieden (das GS60 hat schon einen sehr fetten Rand und wirkt dadurch ziemlich altbacken). Auch die 4k reizen mich nicht, da diese Auflösung auch nur sinnlos Akku frisst und ich ich beim Arbeiten nicht davon profitiere (dafür mache ich zu wenig im Grafik- bzw. Videobereich). Jedenfalls war mir das keine 200€ mehr wert. Kann mir auch vorstellen dass das GS60 durch das kleinere Case etwas wärmer und lauter wird als das GS70.

Du hast doch oben in deinem Beitrag geschrieben dass du von MSI die Auskunft wegen dem Preisnachlass bekommen hast?!? Hat sich MSI also mit Otto in Verbindung gesetzt und du hast daraufhin den Gutschein bekommen oder wie lief das genau ab???

 

Genau so lief es ab. Amazon macht da aber eigene sache.. wenn du Glück hast würde ich so lange bohren und ganz tragisch die sache darstellen bis 200 oder 300 euro rum kommen bei der summe bei amazon ziemlich leicht. Der service ist sehr kullant

 

Yea it's true that gigabyte is not doing well in laptop market but look at those specs!!! They offer much better options for a reasonable price tag! At least they offer gpus with doubled vram (even msi has that, but those machine are very rare or region specific) the biggest deal is even their last gen machines are equiped with IPS panels and even on that time they used newest hardware possible. For example their broadwell systems are using HM97 chips while MSI broadwell is based on same chipset used in haswell models. (HM87)

Also I'm not a fan of MSI's multi-colored kb mostly because of the weired layout and nobody needs the kb to lit up in every possible color. One color is more than enough and I know those all layers can be set to one color to have a single colored effect. Their lighting effects are nice though.

Btw I just read your post regarding ur new laptop. I feel sad for you because it isn't what you expected but at least they gave you the word "GS70 IPS models do EXIST!!!" yey!!! I'm quite happy about that news but I think I'm done with MSI for now. As you said their might be few models in the market with various panel configurations. Just like new iPhone comes with 2 different chips. It's totally your luck whether you're getting a TN or IPS version. Btw I hope you'll get a replacement or half the price offer. Also you got a nice TV there I think you better ask for a replacement laptop because no point using a notebook plugged-in to external monitor. Specially you can't carry that giant 65" tv with you lol

 

Don't ever recommend anybody a MSI's laptops with 4k panels. They're locked at 48hz which will be really bad for a gamer and those are not color accurate panels that isn't friendly with professionals. Also you know how windows's poor dpi scaling is working with 3rd party software, it just don't work correctly. I think their 3k gs60 is great and deal with any other 1080p machines..

 

If you don't mind, will you please make a small review of other internals such as newer nvme ssd, ddr4 rams battery life, boot times etc? Sorry if I put yourself in more trouble by asking these extra info You already provided a lot of valuable details regarding new gs70. Thank you very much mate.

 

Not true with the current generation. Ken from GenTechPC confirmed that they run at 60Hz now.

 

Great then! Do you have more info about the panels used? But still you'll face the scaling issues.

 

Here's the page where he shows the screenshots. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-skylake-laptop-predictions.780535/page-24

He or one of the other vendors here could probably shed more light on the panel specifics. I'm still trying to raise money to get a new laptop.

They've been talking about scaling issues still. 4K on a 15" or 17" is insanely small.

 

Hey thanks a lot. I just saw the screenshot. Are those aftermarket modified panels or the ones that come from factory? I believe that is a PLS panel from Samsung is it?

Btw what is your personal opinion about having a 2160p screen and scale it down to 200% or even 250% instead of running a 1080p without any scaling? does the scaling offer more area in the screen? or it just act as 1080p when scaled?

 

I think those are just stock. I haven't really seen any of those guys offering different panels on MSI models.

I haven't messed around with 3K or 4K panels, so my opinion is more general. With LCDs, they generally look best at their native resolutions. Going to other resolutions can make things look fuzzier. Since 4K is 4x the resolution of your standard 1080p panel, it may scale relatively well. Or maybe just increase the font size and the icon sizes to a more comfortable level.

I think 15" and 17" panels are too small to really appreciate the resolution. I think once you start getting into the mid-20s and bigger panels it'll make more of a difference. I have yet to see anything look bad at 1080p with some good AA and other settings cranked up - on the size of panel at least.

Current graphics solutions - especially on laptops - really can't push 4K resolutions at a good, consistent frame rate yet. Get a GT80 with desktop 980s and SLI, and I think you're in business. I think 4K is overkill for laptops at this point. I think a 3K system is much more viable, as you can actually come closer to pushing that kind of resolution on current hardware.

Of course, everyone's needs and wants vary. If you do a lot of photoshop and video editing like one of my friends, 4K can be a great thing. For my needs, I think it's overkill and I'm perfectly fine with 1080p right now. If I had a need for 4K, I'd probably buy an external monitor and plug it when needed. MSI has a $300 premium on their GS60 4K versions. Granted, you get a bigger PCI-E SSD and more VRAM, but I'm not sure that it's worth that much more to me. Best thing I can suggest is take a look at what your needs are and look at everything you get for the premium. If it meets your needs and you're ok with the price, I'd say go for it. If it's more for just like "I want 4K", I'd be more hesitant.

Good luck!

 

Certainly for a gamer going for the 1080p panel still makes more sense, I am still holding out hope for 1440p panels to become an option.

 

Thats right because even if you have a 4k display (GS60) you're just able to play modern games in FHD (becaus the specs are still too weak to get an acceptable framerate in a higher resolution than 1080p). For gaming there is no difference with the GS60.

A 4k display also needs more batterie! So I would take the GS60 with FHD or GS70 with FHD (weight is the same and the size of the GS70 is just a little bit bigger because the GS60 has larger frame around the display)

Maybe the widows interface and texts in your browser looks more clear but I think the size of 15" is too small to see a big difference.

Only people who are working with photoshop, cad, premiere etc. will notice an advantage of UHD.

 

The image quality is nice, but packing 4K in 17.3" or smaller screens seems a bit redundant. 1080p(ish) still looks good in 15.6" - 17.3" panels.

 

1440p panels would be nice. It looks good on my phone.

 

On my too same here...

 

really aren't text on websites too grainy ? too much oversharpened ? I've seen it and it looks ugly horrible reading..
in FHD it looks rather smooth and nice rounded

 

where are promised pictures ? what are the angles etc.. same as on 2QE ? how's colors on panel ?
did u check device manager ? check which two usb are 3.1

 

I have pictures.. i will post it later .. 3.1 are on the left site. Have test it with an 3.1 usb drive.
It's not the same 1735 which was on the last model... viewing angels are not so bad as other tn panel on market.. when i look from right site its good.. left site also.. from top.. ahh it get better btw it can better.. from bottom look up.. not so bad.. i can see everything but colours not accurate! My vision of the panel is.. i habe put the panel on 100% and was thinking. . Man i am at 50% but there was the end 100% brightness. . So the brightness is not so high.. i think it was anywhere from 250 till 280 candela. Contrasts are not bad.. colours also but you must calibrate the panel yourself but not on the true color app you must go calibration in the display settings from windows. The last gs70 has a more blue colored display panel.. now its not blue.. its gree. So you must go and calibrate the green level from the display and all is good. Only the brightness is a disappointing point.. that can other panels much better.. i hope you understand what i mean. The same with ferrari.. you know you have an ferrari will pull the pedal full to 100 % ( same as brightness ) but you only have to go with 5km/h with the Ferrari and you've thinking man.. go higher.. higher but you're at the end. When i am sitting in my living room.. so today at the evening all is ok.. perhaps the windows are dark.. but today on 14pm i am sitting on my verandah in the sun.. the brightness is to low. And there is another problem with the spacebar key on the steelseries.. at factorY i would write an text and pull the spacebar.. but no command. . Hey? No commands? I pull the key down on right site and left site.. no command. Only when you pull exactly in the middle you will get an command. I am glad the keyboard looks so good but when i am writing and get no response no command when i pull the spacebar.. and klick 10x for 1 space ? Stupid. You dont pull the key every touch exactly in the mittle. Mostly left or right. So i habe repair it myself.. i have layer some foil to get 1mm foil then i disassemble the spacebar put a minimal foil directly under the point whos the spacebar mechanic direct in the middle.. and klick it back to the keyboard. . All is good with my fix. Good writing on the keyboard much better as on the old version gs70 2qe. The fans.. i dont know.. are the fans louder than other thin models? Or my last model.. it often get on.. the off then on than of that can be go on nerves. But its not too loud you can life with that loudness. The speakers are not much loud.. for the slimness its ok.. not bad sound as on other notebooks or ultrabooks. But other brands can make it better like bang&olufsen on hp. Dynaudio was not the best I've heard on a notebook.. but for the loudnes it was clear. You can wach a film or play games ok.. but for listening music its not the best. You don't speak with other people when you playback musik because the max loudnes is not so high. The killer wireless ac is ok.. but when i look some youtube vids in 4k over an displayport on my samsung js9590.. the vid was loading and loading and loading.. i have an 100.000 megabits line.. and my old acer v3 from my wife.. or my samsung s6 smartphones does it load without loadings..

I would taken in settings screen mirroring on my samsung tv.. but the gs70 can't that.. it find my tv as beamer.. right.. but when it will transfer .. it say error on msi. So the msi cant widi.. or screen mirroring! So today i have spoken with msi and my seller.. and get an half price of the msi because the panel issue. Its not so bad for me while the panel is still ok.. but thr half of price i don't say no..
So i think you better buy the gs60 as full hd version ips or you buy these gs70 with an i think.. good tn panel. It can better but its not bad. And fix the spacebar yourself. And all is good. But for the same price you can get all ways the newest gt72 6qe too. With an ips and the 980m .. much heavier but more beast. But all the way the gs70 is good.. you can buy it but not for 1999 euro.. i would pay more like 1799 or 1899

 

Danke für das Review. Ein Bild von deinem Spacebar Fix wäre nett, wenn du später ein paar Pics machst.

Achso: Habe auf der MSI Facebook Seite von einem User gelesen, dass das GS70 unter Vollauslastung den Akku beansprucht (obwohl es am Stromnetz hängt, weil das Netzteil wohl zu schwach sein soll). Ein kurzer Test wäre nice, weil das ein absolutes No Go wäre.

Maybe interesting:
MSI announced the GS40 6QE. It has 14" and exactly the same specs like the GS60 and GS70 with 1080p and IPS Panel. Maybe this is an option for someone. But I guess it's very loud.

 

|Please no other language than english .. please edit your post .. and if you can even those previous ones..
Thank you

 

It was nothing important. I just asked where he bought his GS70 in Germany etc. Nothing interesting for people outside of Germany. Btw: I'll get my GS70 on Monday. Then I'll post my opinion.

 

Do you think you will get IPS version ?

 

No he doesn't. . Amazon germany will sell too europe versions. So its an tn panel.. today.. i have test the battery life in eco mode.. man the battery life is stupid. 45 minutes... in eco mode 50% brightness. . Realy bad.

 

Really? The 2QE has a battery life of 3 - 3,5 hours (50% brightness) and 45 minutes in games.

Could you please test if the battery of the GS70 is used while you're using the power cord? (Because I read this in another thread where a user said that the power supply would be too weak)

 

The power supply has 150 watts it's enough for the msi.. my battery does not be touched when i use a stresstest benchmark. When i look down to the battery icon.. it say always 96% no loading.. while using the power cord.. so i think its not a porblem by all msi gs70 or any gs.. its an technical problem what he have. And yes of cause.. i have test the battery life.. so first starting at 96% . I only used wifi and msi eco mode! I have downloaded an update for my tomtom navigation and install it over usb. So .. brightness only at 50% . 50% at this panel who does not shine so high at 100% .. 50% is very low brightness. . But enough to see what I'm doing on the desktop. Not so good.. Im a little bit angry about the panel brightness.. maybe the colours are not bat.. i think when you look from the right position the colours are ok.. so.. i only updated my tomtom .. download some stuff for that .. 60mb only.. and after ~ 45 minutes . There was the end. My old notebook from 2002 does have more lifetime as this.. thats a realy bad point realy realy bad. I mean ok.. my msi does anytime hanging at the power supply. . But when i go out like today. The battery time was so bad.. i would not test if i use the msi without power cord and high setting high grafics... i think the end of power is after ~ 25 minutes.. not enough for nothing. Your msi killed your gamer session faster than you kill anybody on a game.. oh f u c k you're game over

 

@ Pepe2020
Your laptop is new so battery is never used .. u need to flat battery and charge it to 100% without interruption !
About 3-5 charging cycles your battery will be in normal state
This laptop is designed as desktop replacement .. not designed to carry around ..
Only if u take adapter with you then is ok..

 

I have charged it 6x full before i have started the lifetime test.. i hope when i charged it up more than 10x the lifetime would be longer than now

 

When it's in the high 90% region it wont charge the battery to extend the life span over time as constantly topping off that final battery percentage wears the battery.

 

I guess no one here speaks russian). I do, so it was very interesting for me to see the video posted here some pages ago. On that video the representative from MSI's russian office describes the features of updated gs60/gs70 models. And of course he mentions the screens. Accordings to his words only gs60 model has ips screen (MSI calls it 'wide viewing angles') while gs70 still uses tn-f panel (he does not mention if it's the same as in predecessor or different one). He also said that gs70 will be equipped with ips panels in future but did not mention how soon.
I'm not sure if it's true for models for russian market only or wordwide (I couldn't understand) but this fact says that gs70 with tn-f screens exists and that's not a technical issue.

 

@Aquarius_ru

But Pepe2020 has already seen an GS70 with IPS panel in a local store (Mediamarkt) in Germany. On the German website there is also listed the info that it comes with an IPS panel. Additionally he talked with the MSI support and they confirmed that the GS70 models for Germany have an IPS panel.

The only problem is: Pepe2020 ordered his GS70 from a German reseller but they sold him a version from the Netherlands (with TN panel) and not from the German charge.

So it will definitely come in the future at least in Germany.

Ask the MSI support for more details for your country