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    Official MSI GE60 & GE70 2012 Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by asurania, May 9, 2012.

  1. naoeneko

    naoeneko Newbie

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    Oh. I'm pretty new to this so what do you suggest I do and does changing the thermal compound void the warranty? Thanks.
     
    naoeneko, Jul 4, 2012
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    If you read through some of the thread you will see we talked about this for about 10 pages not so far back. Yes it is normal and I also answered the question about the laptop cooler, it didn't do anything, maybe decreased it by a degree. But the Furmark 1080 test gets me to 93-94 C as well after a the entire thing completes. I also posted temps and pictures of various 3d mark tests that I ran with both stock and new drivers and Vantage and 11.
     
    PharmD, Jul 4, 2012
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  3. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    First, get a GPU monitoring tool (GPU-Z, MSI Afterburner, etcetera) and run it while your system is idle. Check what clocks your 660m is at.

    Concerning paste, no, it doesn't void your warranty, unless your repasting directly breaks something.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 4, 2012
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    So the GE60 definitely has mSATA? I'm trying to decide whether to ditch the HDD for a 256GB faster SSD or install a smaller mSATA and keep the HDD. Newegg doesn't have much options for SSD, and the better Mushkin drives are out of stock.
     
    ballsacks, Jul 4, 2012
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  5. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Yes, it definitely supports mSATA.

    Try browsing around MyDigitalDiscount and check their mSATA SSD section. I got a MyDigitalSSD Bulletproof 3 256GB.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 4, 2012
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    And it is SATA 3?

    The GE60 was so cheap that I guess I don't mind dropping $300 on an mSATA drive. Keeping the 750GB HDD that it comes with would be nice as I wouldn't need to use an external as much.
     
    ballsacks, Jul 4, 2012
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  7. bayareafox

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    I am considering buying the GE 60 from xoticpc after considering Asus N56vz and Vizio GN15. Wanted to get your views on the following hacks,

    I plan to use it primarily for work (browsers, MS Office and VMs) and some play (Photoshop, Diablo 3). I want to use this rig for at least 5+ years.

    - Is the MSI GE60 an overkill or should I consider a different option?
    - Should I go with the mSata or replace the primary HD with SSD as my primary boot + progams drive? If so, why?
    - Should I replace the CD drive with HD or SSD?

    Answers to general questions:
    What is your budget?
    $2000

    What country will you be buying this in?
    US

    What size notebook do you prefer?
    Mainstream (15 - 16-inch screen)

    What brands do you like or dislike?
    Like: MSI, Vizio, Asus
    Would you consider a refurbished laptop?
    No

    What are the primary tasks you need this notebook for?
    Web Surfing, Office and Productivity Software, Listening to Music, Movie Streaming and Viewing, PhotoShop, Casual Gaming

    What games will you be playing?
    Diablo 3 and Battlefield

    Where will you be using this laptop?
    Will be used different places and Will stay on desk

    How many hours of battery life do you need?
    any

    Will you be buying online or in store?
    online or in store

    Which OS do you prefer?
    Windows 7

    List the screen resolutions that interest you:
    High Resolution (1600 x 900)
    Max Resolution (1920 x 1080)

    Do you prefer a glossy or matte screen?
    Glossy or Matte is fine

    Is the laptops design important to you?
    Lighter weight is key

    Approximately what date will you be buying this laptop?
    Around 07/31/2012

    How long do you want this laptop to last?
    5 years

    How much storage capacity do you need?
    500+ GB

    Are you interested in SSD for storage?
    Yes

    Do you want a built-in optical drive, what type?
    No


    --Fred
     
    bayareafox, Jul 4, 2012
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  8. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Both the BP3 and the GE60's mSATA slot are SATA3.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 4, 2012
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  9. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    Only the GE60 with the GT 650M has mSATA the model with the GTX 660M doesn't have mSATA
     
    aaawew, Jul 5, 2012
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  11. WhatsThePoint

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  12. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Jesus God, for the last time any model of the GE60 and GE70 does come with mSATA capability. WTP already said it, but this is for emphasis.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 5, 2012
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  13. MJBarnes

    MJBarnes Notebook Geek

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    Anyone tried playing Spec Ops: The Line with the GE60? What do you have your video settings at? I am guessing that the game is defaulting to the Onboard 4000 graphics. I can not go above 1366x768 with medium settings with frame rates being acceptable.

    Crysis, Battlefield, COD, etc... All of those run at 1080, however, Spec Ops is either a huge resource hog or it is not switching over to the nVidia card.

    Anyone else tried it?
     
    MJBarnes, Jul 5, 2012
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  14. slaxys

    slaxys Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey Forge,

    please post your temps and results (and your mods). I got an ge60 coming as well and might want to use some of your highly anticipated mods.
     
    slaxys, Jul 5, 2012
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  15. naoeneko

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    Ah, It seemed that it didn't downclock properly. Optimus ain't switching over to IGP. The strange thing for me is when I have MSI AB running, Optimus does what I want properly. When I close my MSI AB, it just stick to being on full-3D mode.

    I played it and I had it in 1080 and if I remember it's either medium or maxed setting. Quite smooth and yes, the stupid Optimus didn't switched to GTX660M for me and I had to get it to work by using the Program Settings.
     
    naoeneko, Jul 5, 2012
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  16. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Count on it. I promised to make optimization guides for my old Asus G51vx and my current GX660R, but I never got around to them.

    I'll be sure to make a optimization, modding, and support thread.

    Ah, great, so that was indeed the problem.

    The thing is I don't know how to go about fixing it. Everything I'm hearing is that the drivers are FUBAR.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 5, 2012
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  17. xenon2050

    xenon2050 Notebook Geek

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    Thinking about picking up the MSI GE60 0ND-042US from Xotic and paying for the IC Diamond paste upgrade. My experience with stock paste is that it normally sucks, though it sounds like MSI allows you to replace place and not void warranty?

    Anyway, to people who have bought from Xotic or put the IC Diamond paste on the laptop, what are you temps compared to stock? (I've seen this question in here a few times but haven't seen a answer in the last 10 pages or so)
     
    xenon2050, Jul 5, 2012
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  18. WhatsThePoint

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    MSI uses MX-2 thermal compound in it's gaming notebooks that's a high quality paste.

    Most factory applications of TC is not done with the best of care and they tend to apply too much.

    IC Diamond is a high quality TC and very good when properly applied after the original paste has been thoroughly removed but a bit over hyped with magical cooling power.

    Thermal Compound Roundup - February 2012 | Hardware Secrets
     
    WhatsThePoint, Jul 5, 2012
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  19. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    As an addendum to what WTP said, it's more in the application than in the paste itself.

    I'd much rather have crap stock paste that's well applied rather than some alleged über-paste that's slopped on.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 5, 2012
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    Sequencer1, Jul 6, 2012
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    Hrm...

    I see what everyone meant when this thing doesn't downclock. When tricked into downclocking by activating AfterBurner, the 660m idles in the mid 40s. However, when AfterBurner is not on, the core goes to 835.

    This is gonna take a lot of work, folks.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 6, 2012
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  22. imanol

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    As I've also mentioned a few pages back, running GPU-z will do the same thing. That is, "trick" the gpu into downclocking. For now, I just keep it running in the background when doing mundane tasks such as browsing the internet.
     
    imanol, Jul 6, 2012
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  23. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Strangely, when I have GPU-Z running it does not downclock. It stays at 3D clock. I'm going to poke around the LTV2G drivers.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 6, 2012
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  24. Skellig86

    Skellig86 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all. Apologies, I tried using the search but it keeps throwing me a invalid search query error. I just want to ask about installing a SSD and my own Windows 7.

    I bought the GE70 from here and I was wondering if anybody knows how easy it is to do a full clean install by replacing the HDD with an SSD. And if there's a noob guide out there somewhere? I installed a SSD into my friends MSI GT780 (it was RAID'ed originally) and that turned to be a bit of a pain with the BIOS. Don't want too much hassle with this one!

    Should I clone the HDD onto the SSD first? Are the drivers easy to find? How much bloatware is on the laptop?

    Thanks!
     
    Skellig86, Jul 6, 2012
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  25. imanol

    imanol Notebook Consultant

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    That's strange... You have to have the nvidia gpu selected at the dropdown. Choosing IntelHD in the dropdown, reverts the nvidia gpu to 3d clocks.
     
    imanol, Jul 6, 2012
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  26. naoeneko

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    Yeah, for me both GPU-Z and AB works. But decided to use AB since minimizing AB in OSD is more than enough to trick the GPU.
     
    naoeneko, Jul 6, 2012
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  27. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Yup, I have the 660m selected, yet it's holding steady at 835MHz on the core.


    Also, anyone having success with extracting the 660m vBIOS?
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 6, 2012
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  28. redgoblin83

    redgoblin83 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just received my GE70 with the 660m. Does this version has optimus from nvidia? And if yes how can I control it?
     
    redgoblin83, Jul 6, 2012
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  29. lh6kean

    lh6kean Notebook Geek

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    svl7 know somethings about modifying the GPU vBIOS in the BIOS for kepler equipped notebooks without the need to extract anything.
     
    lh6kean, Jul 6, 2012
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  30. redgoblin83

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    Did anyone bought a hard drive bay to replace the dvd drive if yes what's the reference?
     
    redgoblin83, Jul 6, 2012
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  31. MJBarnes

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    Can you tell me exactly what you did in program settings in order to get the Optimus to switch over to the GTX660?

    Thanks.
     
    MJBarnes, Jul 6, 2012
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    I installed an SSD in my GE60 and it was pretty seamless. I burned the Windows 7 iso (link provided by a member somewhere on this thread) on to a USB. Plugged in the USB to my laptop and just did a fresh install. After that, I popped in the MSI recovery CD and installed the drivers.
     
    winx14, Jul 6, 2012
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  33. ComradeNF

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    Just wanted to add that MX-2 is one of the best TIM's on the market. I use it for all my desktop builds and it gives me lower temps than any of the 10+ TIM's I have tried. The only other TIM which even comes close is AS5 but it is probably best to not use it in a laptop.

    Sent from my GT-I9100
     
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  35. naoeneko

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    I just had the High Performance NVIDIA Processor as my SOTL(.exe) preferred processor.
     
    naoeneko, Jul 6, 2012
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    http://i45.tinypic.com/2ch80fm.jpg

    Am i suppose to be getting this whenever i press the turbo button? From what i heard in the reviews the turbo button is supposed to be automatically turned on or something. Is there anything i need to install?
     
    AznBoyScar, Jul 6, 2012
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  37. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    The "Turbo" on the turbo button is just (allegedly) an indicator of whether or not you're using the GPU. The button itself is a hotkey, as you can see. Hit it and you can quick launch a program.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 6, 2012
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  38. AznBoyScar

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    Oh. Thank you sir.
     
    AznBoyScar, Jul 6, 2012
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  39. Sequencer1

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    My 660m downclocks when running GPU-Z on AC. (From 835 to 405 MHz).
    When running only HWiNFO64 or HWMonitor ( and not running GPU-Z), the 660m isn't listed.
    How do I check the 660m clocks without turning on the 660m? :confused:
    Running the stock drivers (296.31); ambient temp is 88 F (31 C).

    [​IMG]
     
    Sequencer1, Jul 6, 2012
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  40. lh6kean

    lh6kean Notebook Geek

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    Some programs can't find the NVIDIA optimus GPU when it is turned off, so for those programs you need to run some other program to turn it on first.

    Why do you need to check the clocks of the turned off GPU? :)
     
    lh6kean, Jul 6, 2012
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  41. Sequencer1

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    Thanks lh6kean. :p

    Muxless switchable graphics have never worked 100%. Common issue with Optimus. Enduro is worse, performance takes a hit when running dedicated GPU. Manual switching (via mux) is inconvenient and more expensive to manufacture, but better IMO. :rolleyes:
     
    Sequencer1, Jul 6, 2012
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    I use this widget to monitor the GPU clocks. It can read the clocks of the 660m even when not being used. It's how I first noticed the clocks weren't going down unless I had GPUz running.

    GPU Observer
     
    imanol, Jul 6, 2012
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  43. Sequencer1

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    Thanks imanol. Is there a standalone version-I've uninstalled Windows Sidebar.

    Are we sure that these free monitoring tools are accurately reporting the correct clocks at all times?

    Remember that earlier versions of GPU-Z reported incorrect clocks.

    Just checked-nVidia System Tools still doesn't support the 600-series. I installed it and it reports the incorrect clocks too.
     
    Sequencer1, Jul 6, 2012
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  44. imanol

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    You can always compare it to the clocks of GPUz. The only thing I noticed is that it reports the mem clocks as double of what it is. So, 1250 becomes 2499. I'm not sure why, but I've gotten used to it.
     
    imanol, Jul 7, 2012
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  45. MegaBUD

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    Well... got this puppy 2 days ago... playing Skyrim/Starcraft 2 right now... for 1200$ this thing is a beast... a little loud during gaming but... meh... nobody is perfect.

    Now if Nvidia could release better drivers...

    Also is it normal that the "Turbo" get stuck after playing minecraft?

    Any way to force it back to the IGP without having to reboot?
     
    MegaBUD, Jul 7, 2012
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  46. Sequencer1

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    Isn't Minecraft written in Java? What other Java-based apps are you running during and immediately after closing Minecraft? Include browser-based runtimes. May want to look into that.
     
    Sequencer1, Jul 7, 2012
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    Yeah, MC is Java. I didn't know consumer-grade cards even did much for OpenGL acceleration...
     
    sirmetman, Jul 7, 2012
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    What kind of CPU temps are u guys getting after gaming for a while, Im getting 80+ C without turbo fan on.
     
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    It depends on the game, but that seems about right.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Jul 7, 2012
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    Im amazed how well Skyrim plays on this laptop. Every game I trow at it works better than expected. Im very happy with this laptop.

    Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2
     
    Tlukowski, Jul 7, 2012
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