Official MSI GE60 & GE70 2012 Owners' Lounge

so this is my first laptop which has 2 gpus (660m and igpu). how do i control which the program should use and how can I check to make sure the wanted one is being used?

 

Does anyone know if you can remove the ssd from a 2.5" casing and use it in the msata slot or is it too big? Probably a dumb question but I am not too familiar with mSATA.

I am still not getting SATA III speeds with my ssd, grrr.

Where would you actually put these?? http://www.amazon.com/Enzotech-MOS-...053473&sr=8-10&keywords=small+copper+heatsink

 

Only gonna switch to the 660m if needed... like gaming...

 

Same, but i don't know how to "switch" or is there some way to check a certain gpu is being used so i can see if it was automatically switched?

 

Yes, it sees the Intel 4000 but not the 660M. I didn't try the driver from the disk but I did download the latest beta driver from the NVIDIA site and it could not detect the 660M card when trying to install.

 

Well... the turbo light turn on when it switch from the IGP to the 660m... temps get hotter... and games are playable

 

well it seems liek the turbo light turns on once the computer turns on. I see the laptop temp getting very hot when i'm playing a game like d3, but i'm not sure if it's because it's using the 660m or using the IGP.

 

Anyone have a GE60 with high gamut?

How do you like it? Any issues maintaining profiles when gaming?

 

I may have a go, I'm getting in the mid 90's on load even after applying new thermal paste

 

Yes the turbo light goes on during startup and shutdown. Probably something to do with the increased load of doing those things. During normal use however, the turbo light being on indicates that the nvidia graphics are being used. When I play d3 the turbo light is on and it's definitely using the 660m.

 

as far as i know, in order to do this you need a special connector... i believe the interface for msata and the regular ssd are different...
i dont have a regular ssd to compare to, but i can tell you that the msata connector is very small... i think forge has a picture on his thread about modding the case

thanks for this... i'll give it a go and let you know if it works... im assuming you have to delete the volume and i'll lose anything on the drive... am i correct?

[EDIT] thanks! the delete override did the trick... i had to delete the volume and recreate it to absorb the 10gb, but thats ok... thanks again

is the search function broken on this thread?
I'm trying to find the posts about nvidia beta drivers, but it keeps saying "invalid search query"

anywho... when i try to install the latest beta drivers, it says device not found... i remember reading something about it and how ppl got around it by editing an ini file... can someone please refresh my memory?

just curious but why doesn't this work without this hack?

 

Read the stickied post at the top of the forum on how to search. Need to use google.

 

I tried to write a short guide a while back on how to mod an inf so that the drivers will install but coolguy informed me that though it worked for me with the early 304.48 beta drivers, it was not the proper way to do it.

I recommend laptopvideo2go.com instead. Go here
LaptopVideo2Go: Drivers
enter your settings, download the modded inf and copy and replace it in the extracted driver files.

 

sweet thanks. I'll give it a go later tonight

Question, i only see XP and win8... i have win7... im assuming that falls under win8, but just wanted to double check...

 

Having issues trying to browse files on my phone via bluetooth. Checkout out the device manager, and I'm sure this is the culprit. Anyone have an idea of which driver I need to be using?

 

Has anyone bought the stock GE70 and upgraded the wireless card themselves? I'm worried the Intel 135 that comes with it will not be good enough and I am considering purchasing a Intel 6236 and upgrading it myself. Any thoughts from those that may have tried it?

Edit: Also, does the stock laptop come with two antenna's or would I need to purchase an additional antenna for a dual antenna card?

 

it come with 2, you can add a third. Is very easy to put in the new card. It has 2 antenna, putting in 3rd one is a little more annoying but not horrible. You can get it dirt cheap on ebay.

The stock antenna is good enough if you're always at one place.

If you move around and need more range, any 3rd antenna solution will help give far better signal and more range. According to test I have seen as much as 50% more range for 3rd antenna cards like the intel or killer. Of course you're not going to get any benefit if you're connecting to a crap-tastic router.

I order the generic version of the killer from ebay for $28 Atheros AR5BHB112

 

There's 2 antenna wires from the 2 antennas that are behind the LCD bezel.

The wires travel through the hinges.

The black wire is the primary and connects to #1 on the wireless card.The grey wire is the aux and connects to #2.

The Killer 1103 and Intel 6300 have 3 antenna connections on them.They work with 2 or 3 antennas but connection strength may be less when using 2.

The Killer 1102 is a good replacement for the stock card but lacks bluetooth.

A BT USB dongle can be used for the times you need BT.

Cards with BT need BT drivers installed for the BT to work.

The new Killer 1202 has bluetooth 4.0 but it may be hard to find.

Bluetooth signals cause interference to the 2.4ghz WiFi band.

Any wireless card upgrade needs a pairing with a router that can make use of it's features.

No router is best on both the 2.4ghz band and the 5ghz band.Choose one that's good on both.

If you use mostly the 2.4ghz band the Linksys E4200v2 is a good choice.

If you use both equally then the Netgear WNDR3800 300Mbps simultantios dual-band will be good.

For Killer 1103 and Intel 6300 with a 3rd antenna look at the Netgear WNDR4500 or new R6300.

 

I have the same issue, it won't sync. It finds the phone but they won't actually connect to each other.

 

If you have an Intel Wireless card w/bluetooth installed then try installing/reinstalling the BT driver

intel drivers pour chipsets Reseaux (Lan) & Wifi (Wireless)

Killer Wireless-N 1202
Killer Gaming :: Support :: Driver Downloads

Atheros:
Atheros & Zidas drivers

Realtek:
Realtek drivers Wireless

 

Hy all, good news I successfully installed windows 8 on my ge70 and everything is working fine, installed the drivers from the dvd and only the sbar.

Diablo 3 is working and it engages the switch between hd4000 and the 660m (i think so as the turbo button is blue when the game starts).

BF3 well IE 10 is not compatible with the webplugin, so use firefox or chrome (i do), but when the game start it does not switch between the gpu's so I checking how to force that, any idea ?

 

Try nvidia control panel, manage 3d settings, select the preferred graphics controller for this program (browse to program in question)

 

Has anyone used 3m Wrap on a GE60? I am thinking bout buying some 3M Brushed Steel Wrap or maybe a 3M Matte Black.... Just wondering which you would think is better and if the wrap affects the heat at all on the laptop?

 

There is a post somewhere on here that had a laptop with 3m wrap and it looks pretty good. It was a carbon fiber wrap. I don't think it would really effect heat generation as long as you don't cover the vents.

 

Hi guys, I just got the GE70 0NC and I'm also having a little bit a problem with the bluetooth. I've paired my Samsung Galaxy S3 to the laptop ok and can transfer files but my new Plantronics M20 headset doesn't seem to have driver support for Windows 7.

Anybody know what driver or software I might need to get this headset to work?


EDIT: Solved it.Turns out it just need a new driver straight from MSI. The download link is below for anybody else who comes across this problem with their Bluetooth device.

http://www.msi.com/service/download/nbdriver-18516.html

There might be newer drivers out for this later on so please check with the actual MSI website. Also, this is the driver for GE70 0NC.

 

guess you missed my post and lh6kean's response

LaptopVideo2Go: Drivers

so i noticed that mine is not switching... it stays on turbo the whole time... i'm wondering if i forgot to install a driver somewhere... i thought it was because i was running gpu-z in the background, but i killed it and it was still using the 660m... about 1.5hrs of watching videos, i was down to 12%

my old laptop with the gt650 would switch just fine, but that one was not formatted and everything was an out of box experience... the diff with my current laptop is that i reformatted, so I'm wondering if I forgot a driver somewhere...

one other thing i noticed is that the turbo fan on this unit is much quieter than my old one... the old one sounded like a small jet plane was taking off in my room... running gpu-z and playing some d3, the max i got was 79 (fan on)

 

Have you checked that your video player is not set to use the nvidia gpu in the nvidia control panel? Or does your gpu never turn off?

 

So i tried to latest nvidia driver beta... on a fresh install of win7... the turbo light come on once in a while... even when the system is idling... i tried running a 3dmark11 with my usual overclock (+138 +500) and the score was about the same, about P29XX... guess ill wait for the official release.

 

its always on... even while just browsing or typing this post... gonna check my settings

 

I bought some small heat sinks and thermal tape, going to do a little modding and I will report back with temperatures. I am also going to try and game with a laptop cooler below and the bottom panel off to see how much of a difference it really makes and how much I can overclock.

I am incredibly disappointed with the Nvidia drivers but I do love the laptop.

 

I'm wondering the same thing. I also did a clean install, and it seems my Turbo button stays on all the time. It downclocks correctly (I'll get to like 30C while it idles) but only like 100 minutes of estimated battery.

What drivers are you using, shnig? I'm using the stock drivers from the drivers DVD.

Also can't seem to get Bluetooth to work, but I think that's because I upgraded the WLAN card to a 6235 (I wanted dual-band support) but BT refuses to connect to anything.

If you want any advice, throw a post on the optimization thread. I'm always happy to see Moar Holez™ and Moar Coppah™.

 

yea thats happening to me , going back to the default drivers for now.

 

Got mine today. Aside for a few things that I knew would bother me a little (keyboard layout, placement of all ports and vents on sides with none on the rear), I like it. Screen's bright and sharp with decent colors. Sound's good for a laptop. Relatively speedy.

I've spent most of the day paring down the active processes while at idle startup from 72 to about 58 (a few of which I added myself). That, and just getting Windows to behave the way I like it do. I'm decidedly archaic in my OS GUI tastes, so a lot of that was reverting to older style elements and behaviors.

I am also having issues with the graphics switching, though. The Turbo light is always on, and the only way to get the nVidia GPU to clock down is to run MSI Afterburner in the background. Otherwise, the 650M idles at full speed (40-45C). When it clocks down, it gets as low as 34C. The idle clocks don't hold though, as it'll push itself up to full speed again for about a minute, raising the temperature and fan speed, and then go back to low clocks. From what I can tell, the Intel IGP isn't switching on. It's set as the preferred graphics adapter, but that doesn't seem to have done anything.

I've been keeping track of this thread since the first few pages, but now that it's over 80 it's getting hard to sort it all out. Maybe I've missed a solution. It's kind of blurring together at this point.

 

I'm having a similar issue. Once I get a solution that works reliably, I'll make sure to put it in the optimization guide.

 

I do not have any problem with the turbo light coming on when idle, and I'm using the latest nvidia driver. The switching works fine.

I did not have to modify the driver to get it to work.

Are you guys using the wrong nvidia driver, the desktop one instead of the laptop one? How exactly are you getting your driver?

Try this one:
NVIDIA DRIVERS 304.79BETA

 

That's the exact one I'm using. I used the HD4000 driver from Intel's site, if that makes any difference.

 

When I run this
Intel® Driver Update Utility

it says

Product Detected Intel® HD Graphics 4000
Current Driver Installed 8.15.10.2696

Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility (Chipset INF)
Product Detected
Current Version Installed 9.3.0.1020

 

i reinstalled the vga drivers off the dvd and now the light goes off and on as i expect it to... how it performs is another story... its been on ac the whole time, so i'm not sure...but i'll test it out tomorrow

 

I did that, too, reinstalling the "older" drivers off the DVD. Turbo light goes on and off as expected.

The Windows battery estimation thing is telling me I have 3 hours of battery at 95%. That kind of blows my mind. Of course, I've never owned a Optimus laptop before. Well I do have an old school Dellienware M11x R1 with manual GPU switching, but there's really no comparison between their horsepower.

 

What i love the most about the Optimus hardware is... the laptop is dead silent while i browse the internet... and that worth gold!

Sure the 3hours on battery with max screen brightness is good too...

For the MSI junk... just do a fresh install... grab the driver on the MSI website... skip the "tool" except if you need the "keyboard shortcut"

 

yours is dead silent?I have the ge60 and it is far from dead silent while browsing the internet. while not particularly loud, I can always hear the fan going. is this normal or should I RMA it?

 

At the moment, I'm using the stock driver that the machine came with. I'll try uninstalling the current, and installing the one that came on the disc. Perhaps the switching will behave properly then.


EDIT: So, a little experimentation later has revealed a few things. One, the 304 beta drivers won't recognize the system. So I had to reinstall the ones that came with it, which did. Two, MSI Afterburner and/or the GPUObserver gadget were triggering the GPU to remain "stuck" on after the reinstallation of the drivers. With the drivers reinstalled and the gadget/AB not loaded, the GPU switches to the Intel and the Turbo light shuts off.

On the other hand, this means that when the GPU is on, the only way to get it to downclock while idle will be to run Afterburner...which will keep the GPU "stuck" on until AB is closed. Two steps forward, one step back.

 

Are you trying the desktop drivers or the laptop ones?

They recognize my GE60 fine, but I have the 660M if it matters.

I guess either it doesn't recognize the 650m, or you're using the wrong driver.

I still don't understand why forge has a problem with turbo light coming on with the newest nvidia & intel drivers, when I have the same drivers installed and don't have the problem.

 

I was using the Notebook drivers, not the Desktop drivers. The 650M was even listed on the compatibility list. They don't seem to pick up on my 650M, for whatever reason. For now, the stock drivers are behaving mostly normal now that they've been uninstalled and reinstalled. The Turbo light turns off and the 650M goes dormant unless otherwise activated.

Without AB running, though, the active 650M idles at full clocks. With AB running, it idles at the proper lowered clocks but will not return to dormancy.

Hardly a dealbreaker, thankfully, as I'm plugged more often than not.

 

i'm following this thread and i like to know all about optimus

GrammaBreaker, why do you want the 650m to be at low clocks? in that case it's better that it switches to de hd4000, isn't it?

 

Largely because I tab out of games fairly often -- sometimes for a good while. As far as I know, the GPU won't/can't switch back to the Intel even if the game is minimized. The 650M going into idle clocks keeps the heat, power, and noise down in those situations until I get back to my game.

It doesn't bother me immensely, but it'd be nice if it would behave the way it's supposed to. Minor problems with Optimus were expected before I ordered the laptop, though. It's pretty well known to have various minor issues, after all.

 

For some reason I had an average of like 15 FPS on Killing floor. I was playing on High settings. Anyone know why my fps is so low? I have the stock driver for the Geforce GTX 660m. I did a Unigine Heavens Benchmark gave me a score of like 790 and fps of 30 something. Should the scores be like that or they too low? I'm so confused why my fraps are like this lol.

 

Killing Floor isn't a very intense game, so your drivers might think it would be best to use the HD4000 on it. Try setting affinity for KF to your GPU. I noticed a similar performance (or lack of) until I set it to use the 660M.

 

Okay thanks. I was thinking the intel driver might have been running so ill give that a try. Also I have a problem with the audio on the laptop. When I plug in my headphones sound only plays on 1 side. I checked the drivers they are up to date i tried to play around with the settings but nothing i change seems to do anything unless i am completely doing it wrong.

my laptop speakers play fine. But when i plug something in like an aux cord to my stereo or my headphones it only places on the right side. Could this be an audio jack problem? Should i send the laptop back in to Newegg or MSi or can i fix this by myself.

 

So i reloaded Killing Floor and the turbo light wasn't on does that mean the Intel HD Graphics were running? And how do I set affinity for KF to the 660m?