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    Official MSI GE60 & GE70 2012 Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by asurania, May 9, 2012.

  1. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Yes. Just buy 2nd HDD caddy from eBay, put HDD in it and put it instead of DVD bay. You will need to unscrew 1 metal thing and screw it to the caddy.
    Buy caddy which looks promised. It should be with metal case, not plastic.
     
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    Thanks so much for the reply. There are so many caddy offers on Ebay. Can you please point me to one that would fit inside my GE70?

    Thanks,
    J
     
  3. James D

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    Many thanks! Will post some photos with the outcome.
     
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    Hi, I was looking for a new notebook a few months ago and decided to buy the GE60 partly due to the discussion in this thread and the experience has been quite good so far.

    I am currently looking for a smaller power adapter so that the portability of the notebook is increased. I found that my friend's ASUS adapter works with this notebook but is there any problem with using an adapter of another brand? I'm not sure about the risk of using a power adapter that may give less power (2A instead of 6A output) but if anybody knows which smaller adapters are compatible with this machine it would be greatly appreciated.

    On another note, the buttons above my keyboard aren't working. I've reinstalled SCM but it doesn't seem to work. Has anyone else had this problem and know how to solve it? Thanks
     
  6. James D

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    Yes, send notebook back and ask for new one.

    I know that DELL, Alienware AC are fine. You just need to resolder a half of cord which you probably will not do. You need to check the output characteristics of AC brick. They must be almost identical. +-5% for V. Our is 19V and 6.32A. What voltage is in Asus one?
     
  7. MSCCG

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    The asus charger is 19v and 3.42A. I really like it because it is around the size of a MacBook charger, maybe even smaller but I hope I can find something like that on the market without having to buy a new asus notebook!
     
  8. James D

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    Sorry but it is only 60W AC adapter (19*3.42=60). You need at least 90W for this laptop. Even if you have I5, use just 1 SSD instead of HDD and you will somehow disable Nvidia GPU it is still risky to use it.
     
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    Hi everyone,

    I am new to this page. I would really appreciate if you guys could help me.. maybe this is a stupid question I don't know!

    I just bought a MSI GE70 0ND-213US RT, and I also own an Intel 510 Series Solid-State Drive 120GB from my previous desktop computer.

    Can I plug the SSD into my new laptop? Is it easy to do? How can I do it? Is there any tutorial? Would it void the warranty?

    Thank you so much in advance!
     
  10. James D

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    @lamberth It will NOT void your warranty though you need to break the waranty sticker. If you woll not sign your laptop on SI site then warranty will count from the date of manufacture in this case.

    Also You can put SSD but you will have to do a lean Windows install on it. If you have Windows 8 then I am not aware of further actions of OS install.

    You can also buy 2nd HDD caddy on eBay to put there your HDD instead of optical drive.
     
  11. lamberth

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    Thank you so much for your answer.

    Are you saying that, in order to install the SSD, it will take the physical place of the HDD that comes with the laptop?
    If so, I should then buy a 2nd HDD caddy for the HDD and put it instead of the optical drive?

    What does "sign your laptop on SI site" mean? Should I do this?

    Thank you!!
     
  12. James D

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    Sign laptop on MSI site. register your laptop if you want to have warranty since the time you bought the laptop even if you broke your sticker.

    It is your choice to buy caddy or not to buy. You can buy SSD which will you separate slot and leave HDD where it stays now. This kind of SSD is called mSATA one. Choose yourself. I do not use optical drive at all.
     
  13. MSCCG

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    Thanks, I'll go look for a 90W charger then.
     
  14. James D

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    If you are going to buy it then buy 120W or bigger, When I wrote "you need at least" I meant "you could try to use the one you already have if it was 90W one with high (some?) chance of success but it is still a risk". But if you are going t buy the one then it would be stupid to buy the one which has a chance to fail or bring instability while working.

    I overclock GPU and overclock CPU up to 3.8GHz on all cores. It is stable until I try 3Dmark. If I overclock more then my system hangs because of lack of power. So I need 180W or 200 with smth for overcocked CPU.
     
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    Have you upgraded your CPU? 3.8ghz on a 3610qm would be quite impressive.

    180W should see you fine, a larger one would require custom modding.
     
  16. James D

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    Custom modding of firmware or AC adapter? I was looking at slim Alienware AC 240W. Will need to resolder wires thought.

    I have unlocked Ivy bridge CPU. No analog. QBC1 and CPU-z misunderstands it as 3720QM. More like 3920XM.
     
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    Thank you James, I appreciate your help. Please see post below.
     
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    Is there a guide to replace the ODD and install a caddy for a HDD?

    Thanks
     
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    Ah, and yes you need to rewire the PSU (like I have) otherwise it works great.

    3740QM or 3840QM is more than enough for these machines really. With some multi + base clock love you can get the same speeds as the XM due to no voltage control.
     
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    Hi! I'm new to the forums and I was wondering if you guys could help me out,

    So I'm interested in buying an MSI GE60 0NC-i3185+ 3rd generation Intel® Core i3 - 3110M 2.40 GHZ, here in our country, the Philippines, I as wondering if I can upgrade it's cpu to an i7?

    Thank You for your help and sorry for my bad English.
     
  21. bekux

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    Hello,

    I'm a new owner of a GE60. Unfortunately I'm disapointed about the touchpad. I worked during many years with Synaptics models. In the GE60 its an Elantech. There quite no features compared to Synaptics (side scroll, chiralscroll, scrybe, ...). I have tried to install the Synaptics driver but there is no options available except left and right click, I have also try to install the driver from the gT60 adding the ID of the touchpad in the inf file, same issue.
    Do you know if there is a way to force all features to be available or if new drivers from Elan are planned?

    Thanks and sorry for my poor english
     
  22. Neo777

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    I don't have those features either. This may not be helpful but I just wanted to mention that there is two-finger scroll (which I think is superior).
     
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    I have registered for the sole purpose of warning people before they buy GE70.

    I bought mine around August 2012. After 2 months of 'normal' usage the fan's bearing started becoming increasingly loose which resulted in the fan blades hitting the fan's casing. This, in effect, resulted in the fan being more and more loud. When it became unbearably loud, I bought a new fan and installed it. Thought that maybe just that one was faulty --- it happens. BUT to my surprise, the seconds one started to exhibit the exact same phenomenon: its bearing becoming increasingly loose and that resulting the fan being increasingly loud. I sent the fan (the second one) back to the shop to have them replace it with yet another one and -- well, you guessed it-- the third one (a brand new one) suffered the exact same problem.

    I'm done wasting my time anymore. I use my notebook for work. I can't afford to have it off for a week while my fan is being replaced.

    Before you ask: I'm an IT professional and really know my way around when it comes to computer hardware. I've been using, assembling, disassembling, and even resoldering (I'm an enthusiast of electronics, as well) computers for more than 20 years now. So, my described problem isn't really something I could do wrong. I have 2 desktop computers and 3 other notebooks (one being a 7-year old acer) and I had absolutely NO problems at all with any of them.

    I'm going to sell this incomplete piece of junk and buy a new notebook. Can someone suggest something DURABLE --- something that won't break on its own because it's badly designed?
     
  24. MegaBUD

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    Well i dont know about ur experience but here i had no problem with MSI techsupport... they even ship "purolator next day".

    I use the laptop 10hours a night 4 nights a week since june and except the hard drive that was clicking (quietHD fixed that) i never had problem with it

    Sure the plastic feel very cheap but... thats the cost for being very light.

    Maybe its because i deal with MSI canada but... I just had to complain a little and they were ready to swap my current laptop with a brand new one 2 months ago (because of the HD clicking which quietHD fixed).

    And yes I do play games at work for 10 hours.
     
  25. James D

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    You must be using Turbofan function oftenly. It kills bearing.
     
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    Julianinho Notebook Geek

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    I've had my GE60 since July as well, I've been using it quite a lot and I haven't had any problems like that with the fan (I've had it bug after cleaning the laptop out, but that was a different issue). As others said build quality is definitely bad, but not to an extent that the laptop is falling apart from normal usage, so it's an acceptable tradeoff for the lightness and thinness.
     
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    My first time posting here I hope you can help me.

    I have a uk GE70 that has a gt 650m 2gb gddr5. core clock 745mhz memory 2001mhz standard.

    My temps have been good, normally around 60 degrees full load so I thought I would try overclocking it.

    I can overclock the memory and it shows the increase in afterburner however when I increase the core clock it stays the same at 745mhz.

    I have heard you can clock the 650m up to a 660m? Is the core clock locked or something?

    My power lead is plugged in and my power preferences are high performance.

    Has anybody had similar issues?

    Thanks
     
  29. James D

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    You can either flash unlocked BIOS or use bat file but latest will work on 306 drivers or earlier.
    Also you may try this How To Overclock GeForce GTX660M - YouTube
     
  30. Neo777

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    Before the flashing the official BIOS I also had the same problem you are describing. Actually, you may not need to flash unlocked BIOS. MSI released an updated BIOS for GE70 and GE60 that fixed my 660M's broken GPUBoost.

    What's happening is that the GPU is not actually overclocking. But I was able to overclock after the update - without the need for unlocked BIOS.
    So make sure you have the latest BIOS version first.
     
  31. James D

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    Oh, yeah. If we are talking about Win8 laptop then latest 514 version I guess got fixed Boost.
     
  32. Jsayers88

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    Thank you for the responses.

    I updated bios to version 514 and it worked a treat.
    I am now boosting to 969mhz core clock and 2600mhz memory stable after testing.

    Temperature has upped a little to around 65-67 degrees? Still a safe temperature?

    I would like to try and push it further but I am unable to increase the boost any further than +135 on the core clock, memory I am allowed +1000.

    From what I've read it is the same for everybody but is there a way around it so I can achieve a higher speed? Or am I been greedy?

    Thanks again.
     
  33. ChronixPsyc

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    Hey all, does anyone have a guide on how to install Windows 7 on the GE60? Mine came with Windows 8 preinstalled and I noticed that people have said that I have to change something in the BIOS for it to work?

    It's been running like a dog since I got the laptop so I reinstalled Windows 8 using my own version and still not exactly how I planned it would run so only thing I can think is going back to Windows 7 as I know everything on my old laptop worked on 7.

    Thanks
     
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    You can install windows 7 in the new boot mode IIRC, it just does not have the same security features as WIN8 but no less than a normal install of 7.
     
  35. James D

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    I have already wrote about unlocked BIOS. Read here. Read VERY CAREFULLY! There gonna be readme inside. 1 guy bricked his laptop (though many people use unlocked BIOS without a problem boosting to 1111 Mhz or so.)
     
  36. James D

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    PLEASE! Can someone make a screenshot of Nvidia Control Panel??

    I don't see how can I change monitor settings like frame rate etc.

    EDIT: Please look at the INTEL control Panel, advanced settings, display. Try to check if you can set refresh rate anyhow biiger than 60 and create a screenshot please.
     
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    You won't be able to go above 60hz on the built in since it's a 60hz display, so the option won't display. Are you trying to do this on an external monitor?
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    Intel graphics don't support refresh rate overclocking.
     
  39. James D

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    Thanks people.
    @Derek@XoticPC you can overclock 60Hz monitors. Just read about announced Nvidia Titan and Google refresh rate overclock. People new it ages ago though.
    @Meaker Looks that you are right in my exact case. But overall it is possible. Check this video How to Overclock Your Monitor with the Intel Graphics Control Pannel - YouTube
    In properties of my monitor unsupported modes checkbox is greyed out.
     
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    That panel does not work in notebooks afaik.
     
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    Hi guys, I'm at my wit's end hoping for some smart experts to help me.

    I was not happy with Windows 8 on my GE70 and decided to wipe the SSD clean and install windows 7. Because the SSD is GPT, I cannot just install W7 from the install DVD apparently, so I created a UEFI bootable USB stick, which gives me an error when trying to boot it on the GE70. Now I am stuck because:

    - I cannot install WIndows 7 on the SSD because I would have to boot into the Windows setup in UEFI mode, which it is not letting me do
    - Windows will not let me convert the SSD from GPT to MBR (I tried doing the Shift+F10 thing in WIndows setup and it said that SSD cannot be converted)
    - The MSI recovery sector is on another HD in the system, which I cannot access

    Any smart ideas? Thanks in advance for your help. :)
     
  42. jpsm

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    Hey guys ive been experiencing banding on my monitor when playing dota2, everything maxed out and on with a resolution or 1366x768 . Is this normal?
     
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    No, visual artifacts are not normal, but could be down to software issues, does it happen in other titles?
     
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    It does not happen when i get 40-50fps in my other games like bf3 and bioshock it only happens when i play games like dota2 where i get 60-70fps.
     
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    What games are those?
     
  46. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    So it only happens on MOBA's and with high fps? Can you test other software using lower settings to attain high fps and see if it's the fps themselves or perhaps a particular in game setting of DotA 2?
     
  47. viilutaja

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    Can GE60/GE70 laptops GPU (GTX660M) be upgraded for more powerfull HD7970M or GTX680M?
     
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    Unfortunately not, those machines don't have upgradeable GPUs
     
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    :( too bad, would add so much more value to laptop. Is it soldered? I tought that only soldered GPUs are those that start with GT (like GT630-650M)?
     
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    I think it happens in all games but it becomes noticeable when i play games with high fps. Do you know aquaboard for iphone/android devices? its something like that. it usually is visible because its in the middle of the screen. On a side note should i turn on v sync or not? what does it do?

    btw i updated my drivers now i can get 45-70fps in dota2 everything maxed out and turned on, on 1080p. It is still happening btw.
     
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