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    The MSI Overclocking Thread! (Stricly For OC)

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by catacylsm, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    740/930 was ok, but anything higher than that would result in a crash (crashed on the canyon flight with the clocks you said)... Yep it is weird, it is REALLY cutting performance. I just OC for benchmarks and sometimes for heavy games but I see that with this card OCing is not really needed for any game :D .

    But just FYI, with my system fully OCed I got 10500 3dmarks @ 1280 x 1024. 9605 3dmarks without any OC, 10124 with only a CPU OC.

    Urmmm I forgot to take pictures... Just the first mild OC 725/900 :(, but here you go :p lol

    [​IMG]
     
  2. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Niiice, so even with no clock, 3870 still performs right next door to a 4850 near enough, and the asus' g50 gtx260.
     
  3. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    Yep, I couldnt be happier :) :) . It was a nice and cheap upgrade :eek: . Last time I checked the first bestbuy g51 model scores 9100 3dmarks @ 1280 x 1024 using a 2ghz core 2 duo. But like you said that gtx260m is underclocked.
     
  4. Cobra03

    Cobra03 Notebook Evangelist

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    The highest I got was 10,799 which was oc'd at 756/1018. I agree you really dont need to oc for games.
     
  5. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Dam those clocks are rediculous!! They should have released the 4850 under the same design, with clocks that are just plain stupid haha.

    Mind you a friend had the 4850 at 630/1125, that got like 12k in 3dmark06 with a stand alone p9500
     
  6. dondadah88

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    see if you can push your memory to 950. That should give you an edge on performance.
     
  7. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    I did ;), I get 10500+ 3dmarks @ 1280 x 1024 :D :D and like 11700 @ 1280 x 800 . :D :D
     
  8. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Hehe :D i', very frustrated to find such a frame drop when going from 1440x900 to 1280x1024 in these benchmarks, thats approximately 16 thousand pixels more, and it effects massively :(. (more specifically in vantage.)
     
  9. MexicanSnake

    MexicanSnake I'm back!

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    Yep, thats the sad part :( . Post your scores plz.

    Here, I just got this, but to be honest I dont want to keep pushing my system with those clocks lol :eek:...
    [​IMG]
     
  10. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Thats pretty rediculous buddy :) but they are clocks to be proud of :D, if i had a full version of 3dmark06 pro instead of basic then i would see what the 4850's like in that kinda res.
     
  11. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Going to update the first page with GPUTool usage guide in a few days, this tool allows overclocking of the 4850 without having to bios flash!
     
  12. ndung21

    ndung21 Newbie

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    i wonder if anyone in here know how to overclock MSi GX403
     
  13. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    By pressing the turbo button ?
     
  14. ndung21

    ndung21 Newbie

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    yes sure,i mean via software like setfsb,is there anyone know the PLL of GX403?

    or maybe we just overclock this laptop via the Turbo Button only
     
  15. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Whats your motherboard?

    You can find out in CPU-z :) i know msi like to use a couple of the same mobo in different models.
     
  16. ndung21

    ndung21 Newbie

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    MS-1435

    i thought the bios is locked for overclocking on the fly via software :(
     
  17. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    It may, or may not, but you can overclock via the turbo button right?
     
  18. Dead2th3world

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    Other 3rd party software won't let you go any higher than turbo allowing you anyway , that's the case for my 725(c2duo).. with quad it's a different story .. you will need stuff like setfsb which doesn't seems to work with some bios' . How high will Turbo let you OC ? 24% ?
     
  19. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    I think its 20% by default so we may be able to take it to 24% if he has the options.
     
  20. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    Is it true that one will get a higher OC when using just a single ram stick? All the great OC i've seen in most laptops/desktops use just single ram stick.
     
  21. catacylsm

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    hhmm i suppose its entirely possible, is it possible ram could desync in a sense?
     
  22. Automatikjack

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    ive heard of this problem before however it stems from the difficulty of keeping multiple sticks synced i guess, or possibly with the stability of the ram controller. though ive never heard of a one stick overclock, you would be significantly reducing your overall ram effectiveness, two sticks will always give more throughput.

    in the desktop world it was explained to me a while ago in the battle between 4 sticks and 2 sticks, 2 would win for oc ability due to less stress, and not to mention not all components are created equally. so theres less that can go wrong. ive seen it happen firsthand with my oldschool rig thats still going strong,

    DFI NF-4 SLI DR, Operon 165 @ 2.8, mushkin DDR500 4x1gb, 3-4-3-8, 6800gt 256mb DDR3.


    literally a timeshot of when amd was spanking the hell outa everything, now i cant reallly get the same amazing clocks now since i have 4 sticks, but with 2 i was approaching 3ghz stable, compared to the 1.8ghz stock!

    now that i think about it the one thing that could probably help with the valueram for advents is possibly giving the ram a little bit more juice and finding a way to once again drop the ram divider to stress it a little less and make it more stable. ill be doing some oc testing here within the next month, just waiting to get the neccesary parts to complete my gt729ish mod for my id2. really itching to see that 1gb 4850 in 1920x1200, and then get this quadcore tickled in the right spot. should be able to make some beefy marks
     
  23. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    I decided that it was cooler running the qx9300 with an undervolt of 1.05v then to OC and have to run it at much higher voltages.
     
  24. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Thats probably the best choice, but 1.05, isn't that extremely low? im sure thats what my q9000 runs at, and your talking an extreme chip with a much higher clock and memory. :D

    No instabilities?
     
  25. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    1.05v at x6
    1.062v at x9.5
     
  26. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Aha, i'm running the q9 at 1.05 at 7.5/8, i've had 1 instability so far, but then i think thats what happens when you change voltage in the middle of encode jobs haha.
     
  27. Genna

    Genna Notebook Evangelist

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    Guys, can some of you tell me where I can find heatsink from GT 725, or other models using same GPU. Also I want to know the mounting distance of the heatsink. If it is the same like one used with 9600M (41mm) it won't be of any use to me. I need heatsink where this distance is 46mm (I thing 9800M GS has that one, but as I know MSI puts it only at 15" laptops) and it is compatible with MS-1722. I'm about to do something big, but let me keep it in secret for now, because the chance to work is very little. :)
     
  28. mew1838

    mew1838 Team Teal

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    Do you guys like have a list of the top 3dmark scores?
     
  29. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    Not really man...

    Cataclysm up there has his score in his sig, and Darth Bane got nearly P8000 off the top of my head? (Running a HD4850 out of an Alienware though)

    Might be an idea though.
     
  30. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    i suppose we could get some scores pushed out :p but yeah darth got like 8k in vantage, which i think equates to around 13 to 14k 3dmark06 or something daft
     
  31. mew1838

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    Cause I just read an entire OC thread without any "I wanna push my machine hard" theme haha. We have a thread on the Gateway section listing the 3dmark scores of the P series. Some people are able to push 12,000 with T9900 and 1280 X 800. That resolution typically gives 500 more points so you guys would need 11,500 at 1280 X 1024 to match the record of the FX.
     
  32. catacylsm

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    Hehe, i think thats easy enough, all we'd need to do is blast the CPU clocks a bit, or i could try a multi lock to see if i could get there.

    At 2.2 ghz, i can get 11k 06 out the box, if i pushed that to 2.3 and then pushed my memory past clock limit i might just be able to 11,500. (Or of course dead/darth (one with uber uber scores) could go ahead and run the test.)

    But yeah haha, the i wanna push my machine hard theme ended a while back, but occasionally we get up to some nice evil oc tenderness. :)

    Curious mew, i dont suppose you could drop the link to the other thread in here?

    Also have many people ran vantage with the Gateway? The p series is a nice machine set which often don't get talked about, but they have a nice price, good hardware and a very low failure rate if i recall. :)
     
  33. mew1838

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=374381

    Here you go :)

    I love this machine. Great cooling system, no problems whatsoever since day one. The reason vantage isn't run my most of us is because our res doesn't support 1280 x 1024. Try getting 11,500 with cpu at 3.06 :) Should be easy with the 4850.
     
  34. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Haha, your joking aren't you ;P im not pushing the q9 to 3.06 on cheap consumer ram!

    I can also vouch, i have the same res as you fellas, and it just wont work!
     
  35. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Do the MSI notebooks let you change the ram timings or frequency in the BIOS?

    Could I tell my 800mhz ram to run at 667mhz with 6-6-6-18 timings?
     
  36. Dead2th3world

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    Yes you can. pic on the way
     

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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Wow, thanks for the quick reply :)
     
  38. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Welcome :D

    EDIT : Time to put some holes in my machine , I'm out getting a Drill :D

    2 : Done ! I went medieval on its butt :D Might have exaggerated a bit (or a lot) :eek:

    3 : GPU at idle is 31 degrees :D
     

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  39. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Ehh, Dead, YOU JUST NINJAD THE BOTTOM OF YOUR MACHINE ROFL.!

    What the frak haha.
     
  40. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Yeah ! :D it's working , temps are down by 9 degrees :p need to buy a spare lid bottom thingy just in case :p
     
  41. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Agreed, but wow, How did you drill it?

    Did you place it flat on say a block of wood or just somehow secure it and drill,

    Also what drill piece? I'm very tempted, and please run a furmark.

    When the fan works at high rev, its unbelievably efficient.
     
  42. Dead2th3world

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    Got someone to hold it coz the drill might get stuck in the wood :p

    The 1st & 2nd hole i did with precision , the rest is just mental ! :D patience ain't my thing ...

    Okie i'll run furmark tomorrow , with or without cooler ?

    EDIT : I'll let you know about the drill piece
     
  43. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Both? haha, i know that with airflow, the machine should cool like an idiot anyway lol.

    I'll also run some 1080p runs with the bottom on, and off. and with a cooler (Cheap thing, wana see if all the chasis is affected by a small enhancement of airflow) and without :)
     
  44. Dead2th3world

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    You will see a difference in temps , using the notebook with the bottom permanently off is a risk though :( would have been easier
     
  45. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah definately,

    If anything, i'd imagine extending the intake to a full circle would work nicely?

    Have some flat metal sives too that i can cut and use as grills.

    This is a very tempting idea though, any times you thought the back would just cave in?
     
  46. Dead2th3world

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    Depends on how big the holes are , it would work nicely ;)

    But like you said , the idea of it caving in is kinda scary ! But worth a shot
    http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=60_97&products_id=1516

    We need this type of mesh , the holes looks like a good size
     
  47. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Agreed, bit costy though?

    Can't stop laughing at the fact it looks like you've tried to deflect bullets off the bottom of your machine and it looks like they went cleanly through, haha.
     
  48. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Yeah it is , need to look for some cheaper alternatives now. Those guys down chilledpc are great though , reliable.

    :D even my GF is at it ! I might add a few more tomorrow :p
     
  49. Genna

    Genna Notebook Evangelist

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    ... no words ... crazy guys :D
     
  50. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Is the MSI GT627 PLL known or do I need to find it?

    BTW, Turbo works for me with my T7300 (800mhz fsb OC to 920mhz, 230mhz real).

    I want to use setfsb to overclock higher, over 33%.
     
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