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    The MSI Overclocking Thread! (Stricly For OC)

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by catacylsm, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    its pm45 also isnt it moral? try the pll fro this thread.
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It is PM45, but the PLL doesn't work. Setfsb doesn't read the clocks right.
     
  3. catacylsm

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    Just doesn't detect them? or detects them but doesnt work with changes?.

    Trying to track down another one.
     
  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It detects the FSB as 400mhz and when I try to overclock nothing happens.

    BTW, when I had the notebook open, I saw this:

    MS-1651 A
    ver OC

    Do you know what the other versions are (like GT620, GT628) or are they all the same?
     
  5. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    It's a 10mm wood Bits , pic attached ;)

    Furmark burnin mode max temp 72 (without cooler)

    " " " " " 65 (with cooler)
     

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  6. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    May be setfsb isn't compatible with your Bios. Same as me , it detects but that's about it ..
     
  7. Rorschach

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    Setfsb is not compatible with msi branded laptop bios. You have to use the barebone version which will take away the turbo button.
     
  8. catacylsm

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    Aye, the bios needs to be an early revision for it to work,

    Unfortunately i've only worked with 1722 models in this area, i will see if i can scour around for any information or earlier bios's for the machine.

    Dead thats stupid....Xtreme burning mode or standard, and what res?

    Thats basically at the level of an alienware systems cooling, you should burn test the CPU too lol
     
  9. Dead2th3world

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    Xtreme burnin mode @ 1680x1050 with post FX & displacement mapping on.

    EDIT : no , no AA .. from my past experience , even with AA on it's doesn't makes much of a difference.

    It should run hotter @ 1080 right ?
     
  10. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Woah, thats crazy alright!

    I will perform some runs in a few, i'l run at 1080 though,

    Any AA?
     
  11. moral hazard

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    Ok, I guess I'll flash the BIOS.

    And I think I'll still try to find the PLL on the motherboard, it's good to know.
     
  12. Rorschach

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    Try contacting donald at powernotebooks. He should be able to provide the MSI 1651 ID2 barebone bios. Its the reseller model of the gt627.
     
  13. moral hazard

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    Thanks, I sent him an email.
     
  16. moral hazard

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    Ok, he gave me this link:
    http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1670

    Is that the right bios?

    Because it looks like the GT627 BIOS and not the 1651 barebones BIOS?

    EDIT: DW, I'll just use the BIOS on this post:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5632385&postcount=620

    EDIT#2: I updated the BIOS and firmware, setfsb works perfectly. But I can't change the ram frequency and timings.

    I want to have the ram @ 667mhz with 6-6-6-18 timings or I can only overclock a small amount before my ram is unstable...
     
  17. moral hazard

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    Don't know, where did you find it?
     
  18. moral hazard

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    Yes, it's the barebones.
     
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    Any overclocks on the new mobile i7 chips?
     
  20. catacylsm

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    Unfordunately, i don't believe their is for Mobile yet, although MSI may include an OC button, and i think ASUS had one also!
     
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    Maybe someone with a mobile i7 chip should shoot "SVET" a message @ msi forums... he's mod'd 2 bios for me already to allow advanced overclocking in the bios ob my A5000 lappies
     
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    anyone overclocked the su3500 cpu in msi? is it hardware blocked like on Acers Timelines?

    if so, anyone used setfsb or another software? anyone knows the clock generator ?

    I'm trying to find out if its possible to overclock msi x340 laptop
     
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    So will overclocking work with official MSI Bios and firmware for 1.0S? If anybody has the OFFICIAL firmware (with MSI Splash Screen), please link me. I need it and I need it now lol.
     
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    Setfsb doesn't work with the official MSI BIOS.
     
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    is that on every laptop model? so they block OC with the bios?

    I know the acer 1810 timeline has the same chipset and specifications. someone in the acer forum was able to overclock with setfsb, but he had to do a hardware mod because Acer blocks it with a resistor on the motherboard. Once you change the resistor connection you unlock it for overclocking. but thats on the Acer timelines.

    If someone would want to try on msi x340, can he use the same clock generator or its different for each manufacturer?
     
  26. Dead2th3world

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    I don't know if it's the same on every model , may be it applies to the one that has the turbo feature only.

    As far as MSI goes , it's not hardware issue , just Bios. If i recall correctly i think some been Overclocking the tiny MSI Wind through a Bios mod.

    Just get someone to test setfsb on the x340 to be sure.

    The clock generator should be different.
     
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    cool. thanks for the info.
     
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    thanks for the info.
     
  30. Genna

    Genna Notebook Evangelist

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    Now, I have something to discuss with you guys.
    I'm trying to find the best lowest voltages for my 9600M GT, so to be even cooler that it is now :)
    I used NiBiTor and set the voltages as follows:
    2D, 3D and Throttling to 0.8V (This is the lowest voltage that you can set from BIOS). I didn't changed the stock frequency values there.
    For Extra I put 0.95V, because it is overclocked to 9700M GT. The stock value here was 1.05V. As it is everything is running great. And I managed to drop the temperature down with 8 degrees when the card idles, and when under load - 4 degrees. May be I have to overclock it more :)
    Now what bothers me is that when screensaver is running the card still is running at 3D mode. I didn't check how it was before I do the changes. What I mean - Is it necessary for windows to use 3D mode for screensaver or it can run at 2D?
     
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    How do you guys make your MSI`s go around 10k 3dmark 2006? I have a GT725 with ati HD 4850 and a P9500 proc and original vista and cant even cross the 5k. What can I do about it?
     
  32. catacylsm

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    Hey there Zwik,

    The machine should push enough power to hit 10k stock, are you in High Performance Mode?
     
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    Hi catacylsm. I was running in the turbo mode. The turbo button was on and the result I got was ~4900. But if it has the power to reach 10k then there must be something else wrong. I`m running on the default ati drivers that came with the laptop. Or maybe the charger got disconnected somehow.
     
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    Hmm interesting,

    Open up catalyst control center, and go to power play, see if the GPU is set to maximum performance, do you happen to have your scores off hand SM2,3 and CPU?
     
  35. Dead2th3world

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    Ahhhh ok. Now I know what the problem is :) I`m so ashamed that I don`t even want to write about this here ;) It was the power profile I had on. Thanks cataclys for making me look into the powerplay. I have discovered that I had a energy save profile even when the charger is connected. Now I got a 9795 score which is a thousand times better :). Thanks a lot.

    Also thanks dead2th3world for telling me about the drivers. I`ll get them right on - maybe aero will stop crashing :).
     
  37. Dead2th3world

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    No prob ;) run driver sweeper or driver cleaner to get rid of your previous ATI driver before installing the new one.

    Why aero kept on crashing ?
     
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    Ok I give up. I was trying to find the actual crash information in the event log but could not dig through 50 thousand entries. :) The only thing I remember is that the crashes were (of course) seldom and random, and the faulting module was always one of the ati drivers (.sys). On the internet they have said it has something to do with a certain hotfix, but uninstalling it didnt change much.
     
  39. Dead2th3world

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    May be it's time for a format ? :p

    I had similar issues on my dell the last time around , everytime i open control panel or a window it freezes and crash .. format and reinstall did the trick. Not a pleasant process i have to say ..
     
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    Interesting, i saw something about failure and posted on it, yet i can't find the post anymore...
     
  41. Blazin23

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    Cat, are you saying that you can alter the fsb directly from the bios without having to use SetFSB?

    Blazin
     
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    Its always entirely possible, maybe a bios mod from that bios modder on the forum lol, svet? can't remember.
     
  43. Dead2th3world

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    Svet can't do anything , he tried in vain. Most feature he added won't even work with the GT725's bios. I gave him my barebone , may be he might do something decent with it.

    For the time being , use the one in the 1st page. :D
     
  44. Blazin23

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    is that the barebones on page 1? cos i downloaded it and its called 1.0s.. which i'm pretty sure is the bios i'm currently using.. or maybe they just have the same name. :confused:

    Blazin
     
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    Same name , minus the useless turbo feature so that setfsb can work.
     
  46. Blazin23

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    ah yes i see, well my q9200 is coming tomoro so i may just have to flash and see what it can do ;)

    any tips?

    Blazin
     
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    Could give svet my bios, since its unlocked and quite recent it may be an idea to see if its compatible with the 725 (Although you get a horrid white advent splash haha.)
     
  48. Dead2th3world

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    It should work as it's technically an MSI. I hate those splash screens :D Mine is like when you press delete to go into bios , diagnostic type :p

    @ Blazin , 1st of all , get a big packet of m&m's :p
    The best tip i can give you is go slowly , increase by 5 to 10 increments and click apply. I started running prime95 @ 2.6 .. Remember the score to beat is 2962.8mz :D

    Here's mine
    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks man, did yours crash after 2962mhz? or didnt you dare go higher? ;)
     
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    Wasn't prime stable after that , and bsod after 3 :D You might have better luck than me who knows ;)

    Don't worry about the bsod , it's a normal thing.
     
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