The Official 1727 / GT740 Lounge

Try Fraps http://www.fraps.com/

 

I simply use FRAPS, It's great and easy to use.

You start fraps, then start your game, you will see an fps counter on your screen. Don't forget to enable "fps" and "minmaxavg".
When in-game you press F11 to start the benchmark, a small green box will appear for a second to indicate the benchmarking started. press F11 again to stop. You won't be able to see the FPS while running the benchmark.

You can find the results in FRAPSLOG.txt in the fraps directory.

EDIT: Got ninja'd...
The STALKER benchmark is taking another hour to download, so i'll post results when it's done...

 

Small video for the MS-1727 ID1 Power on and boot time.
http://cid-cfdb369e3fd129df.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/The%20Official%201727%20-%20GT740%20Lounge/MD000729.AVI

 

Another benchmark:

Stalker: Clear Sky Benchmark, Default, 1680x1050

Code:

           Min, Avg, Max
Day:       11, 20, 38
Night:     15, 29, 49
Rain:      18, 33, 50
Sunshafts: 8, 16, 26

Stalker: Clear Sky Benchmark, High, 1680x1050

Code:

           Min, Avg, Max
Day:       10, 18, 35
Night:     10, 24, 40
Rain:      16, 28, 41
Sunshafts: 8, 10, 17

In case you missed them:
Fallout 3, High, 1680x1050

Code:

Frames: 1946 - Time: 61103ms - Avg: 31.848 - Min: 2 - Max: 61

Fallout 3, Ultra, 1680x1050

Code:

Frames: 2735 - Time: 118874ms - Avg: 23.008 - Min: 9 - Max: 62

 

Holy Smokes.......

That's the price even including the 8GB of RAM!!!!??

 

I'm sure that's a typo. The barebones don't come with ram pre-installed. Plus it wouldn't be much of a profit, since two 4gb sticks are really expensive.

 

No it's a typo, the mean it supports up to 8GB max. (checked by email)

 

Bench's are running hitting the 10000 with OC.
Screen will follow after the benchmark test is finished and verified to be stable, meaning it will run for max hrs.

 

don't forget to leave the fps veiwer on while recording.

 

When running any bench utility with the fraps running the fps will drop with -10/20 fps.
I don't think it;s the best tool to use foor in game/app recording.

But i will try to check for a fix or other utility which will do the same with only less issue and fps drop.

 

Ill have to run the stalker clear skies benchmark on my GT725 this arvo so we can compare...

 

MS-1727 ID1 OC RESULT


GPU-Z



3DMark06-OC







3DMarkVantage-OC



PCMark-OC



Passmarkperformancetest

 

Vantage GPU score of 3534 puts it firmly at 2x+ the performance of the 9600M GT at only a 20% increase in consumption and ~66% of the performance of the 4850 at over half the power consumption level. Within its own product line, that is a nice upgrade.

And yeah, that price I found was for the barebones only, but that is a great price. Even with the Bing cash back on eBay if you buy from Frosty the other is STILL cheaper.

 

Oooh sorry post doubled up, would a mod kindly delete this one?

 

Ok so I ran the Stalker Clear Skies Benchmark again just out of curiosity, results are below:

Preset - Ultra, DX10 (not 10.1), 1680x1050, no AA.

Mobility Radeon HD4850, stock 500core 850memory clocks, 9.12 drivers, P8600 with turbo on at a 20% overclock.

DAY - 12.6, 20.5, 42.1
NIGHT - 14.6, 25.0, 45.7
RAIN - 11.8, 24.1, 48.7
SUNSHAFTS - 10.2, 13.4, 19.8

NOTE: Numbers are of course in order of minimum, average, and maximum.

Enjoy

 

After doing some research on the different laptops that compete with the 1727, I decided to buy one from RK Computers! Though it took some time due to intel not having the 820qm readily available, I was given the option to cancle the order or wait a few weeks for intel to get the 820qm or downgrade to the 720qm, I choose the downgrade. For anyone who wants to order from Canada, like me, don't forget the COD charges. However, so far I am pleased with this laptop and am looking forward to seeing its true power (has only been 1 day of use). I didn't know how to turn on the bluetooth feature so I emailed RK Computers and they responded quick with this solution that I thought others would find useful aswell:

On the left side of the keyboard is the wireless button, press it once and the wireless will activate. You will also see on screen feedback for the wireless. Press a second time, wireless off and BT on, press again and both should be on. keep an eye on the screen feedback as it will indicate which is on & off.

I am pretty new to overclocking and say you overcloked the gpu and say somehow you overclocked the i7, would your battery life be much shorter even on normal usage like surfing and typing?

Anyways,
This thread rocks !!

 

You can easily overclock the GPU with GPUTool or something simmilar.
Unless you do alot of CPU intencive work, you won't need to overclock it, I even UNDERclock it when I don't need it. I forgot to turn the multiplier back to 13x yesterday, and was playing far cry 2 without even noticing the cpu was at 1000mhz or so .

By the way, have any of you tried the MIC yet? I just tried mine and it was REALLY silent, went to the control panel and turned up the mic volume to 100% and mic aplifying to +30dB and although that worked it added A LOT of background noise...

EDIT: Overclocking will drain your battery a little faster, but as the GPU automatically downclocks when on battery you probably won't notice it...

 

Best price so far for the 1727 barebones in tandem with next day shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150410515640&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

873.99 - Bing 10% = 786.59 shipped

Provantage is ~$1 cheaper, but special order.

 

Thanks man !!

 

Did anyone notice that the laptop pushed out soooo much heat from its side vents... the right side of the palm rest feels a bit warm. Is this normal when doing using gpu tool to run the stability test for say 1 hour.

 

Stability test tiger, its there for a reason, it pushes the GPU's hardware to the max (Who knows, maybe even the cpu also) so yeah this is normal,

I've found that burn testing on low power feels like its hotter then it does on high power, but i don't think the fan follows the same throttle up cycle.

 

Yeah, trust me, you WANT that hot air coming out. I remember my old Alienware M-ALX and it's dual rear exhaust fans off those 7950's. Man....people walking by would get hit with that whoosh of hot air and go, "Whoa!"

 

Damn man, those things must have gotten hot...

I had an M1710 with a single 7900, and I'de come back and the screensaver would be on. I'd check the temps and they were always around 70

 

Haha, had my 6555 and a 1730 running furmark with the fans directed both sides of my wireless mouse.

In the end i had to pick it up with a cloth it was that hot haha.

 

Thanks guys! I did notice that the temp stayed at 60 Celcius. Once I stopped the test, things got cool pretty fast, and this was while I was downloading a copy of Crysis Warhead from demonoid (took 1 day). Finished downloading last nite .. cant wait to give it a test !! Might even put on some mod someone was talking about which creates realisitic lighting and stuff.. supposedly it will slow down the fps if the gpu cant handle it.... I am gonna do some research on doing some crysis benchmarks.. kinda new to overclocking and testing things myself.. however lots of experience in reading forums about overclocking.. will let you know how it goes !

 

Don't even get me started on the M1730

 

I can only play Crysis on "gamer" settings.. if I put it on "Enthusiast", then the game lags like a b--ch. Anyone else have this problem.. ? or .. is this the norm for this laptop. However, beautiful grahpics indeed. My mom and dad thought they actaully recorded that in real life and then used it for the game... didnt believe me it was graphics... they're getting old lol.

 

I know man, nice but nightmarish machine!

 

That would be Warhead you are referring to? In which case not even the GT725 can handle this game silky smooth on enthusiast.

 

Hows enthusiast when compared to Crysis on very high?

 

Same thing , enthusiast is very high.
I can run it without any lag on enthusiast , even with AA.

 

Yep, me too .

Hmm furmarks chugging for me dead, it holds temps at 75 with the bottom on, i'l try 10.1 drivers.

 

I'm using 9.12 (yep I made the move ) , it's working great ! I thought MM wasn't compatible with 10.1 ?

How about room temps ? heater on ?

 

I'd love to know whether its worth the upgrade, so let us know!

 

10.1 wouldn't work, wouldn't detect the hardware id as mobility even when i modded it, then it said it had OS errors lol.

Furmarks chuggy regardless, although i did run OCCT power test and my GPU and CPU hit 70 with the NB at 75, heating on the house was on, bottom off and low power cooler pushing air into th chasis.

Boy do i love hearing the fan run at 100% (I also pushed the NB up to 85 by blocking airflow a bit.)

Its a monster at full.

 

Yeah , there's some compatibility issues .. they are working on it apparently.
10.2 would have some "major" changes .. we'll see.

That's not bad , Can't really complain when it comes to the single fan Does it's job nicely

 

I love the single fan, it just shows how far great engineering can go, with the hardware some of us are running, kudos on MSI's behalf.

Just found a link to 10.1s for mobility, haven't tried it out, 2 hours then i'm home, test time .

 

100% agree Catacylsm. Very elegant design from port to stern.

 

Hey guys, is it possible to get this post a sticky to keep it at the top? It would be nice to keep the info on this current model handy.

 

None of the official threads get a sticky. At best, they get their own sub section clustered together.

Just bookmark it to keep it handy.

 

Heck we don't even have an MSI specific admin active (I think there was one.)

MSI peops are so well behaved .

Were all friends! Take that trolls!

 

I just found an updated bios version 1.06 on MSI website, its seems its only for the GT740.
Any idea where or how to get updated bios for the 1727?

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1902

Also can anyone comment on the sound quality on the 1727? I would like to know how much better than say a Sager 8760? I know this is pretty subjective, but any feed back would be helpfull.

 

Trying to get the correct version BIOS and EC Firmware for the Whitebook version, please keep checking back for updates.

 

Yeah, when it comes to getting the BIOS/EC updates, RePaRaQu rocks. He's MY go to man for those updates.

 

Files are found, but then the problem occurred.
Whitebook BIOS and EC Firmware files are corrupted, no way to get them working.

I keep on trying to get it fixed, otherwise i need to contact my MSI informer to check the files.

 

Does GT740 has alt-insert overclock option in the bios? Seems that it never work like the GX740. The specs are very similar.

Any GT740 owner manage to overclock their CPU yet?

EDIT:
only just found out this method for OCing
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m15x/472894-possibility-overclock-i7-m15x.html

 

I have a ms-1727 laptop with i7 processor. I just put in a solid state hard drive and installed windows 7 - 64 bit. i downloaded all the drivers for the gt740 from msi's website and everything works except for the speakers. well some sound comes through, but it is not from the speakers on top of the keyboard or from the other two speakers and subwoofer. i read on a different thread to download the drivers from the realtek website, but they still do not work.

Also how do I know if I have installed ECO Engine Power Management System and Cinema Pro?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

Agh, MSi changed their website. Now all the file links are dead and the 1727 won't come up in a search. I just reinstalled and need whatever drievrs are coming up as "base system device" x4. for windows 7x64. Thanks!

 

CIR Driver Probably

It ain't dead MSI

 

Thank you, sir!
I needed that and the JMicron.