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    The Official GT683R/GT683DXR Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Keith, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Sad..... another politician.........

    :D :D :D
     
  2. Luxw

    Luxw Notebook Guru

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    mine finally arrived, so awesome :D :D
     
  3. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Congratz Luxw! I know the feeling. My new notebook will arrive tomorrow! Are you doing a 'Happy Dance'?

    :D :D :D
     
  4. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Nope, in this town "Mayor" is not an elected office. I founded it, I own it, and nobody can vote me in or out...er, other than our customers of course ;)
     
  5. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm still on stock drivers at the moment, and added a custom resolution of 1920x1080@120hz which is what I assume you did. I don't know if Win7 aero uses vsync or not, anyone else know? Using Windows+tab I can get over 100 according to fraps, but without knowing if vsync is on or off it doesn't help much.

    I did notice that the "monitor" tab in device manager does show 120hz as a valid option too.

    I tried the Heaven benchmarks that came on the machine since I'm still copying my Steam folder over so I can't try any real games. It didn't like the custom resolution for some reason and always reverted back to 1680x1050, so that may not be a good sign, or just could be some wierd issue I happened to come across with heaven.

    I will test a real game as soon as my copy is done. I am intrigued by what I've seen already. If by some miracle our displays will do 120hz I will be extremely happy, and really surprised.

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    Update
    After messing around a bit I found out that adding that custom resolution/refresh in windows made tha 1920x1080 disappear in ALL games. So while it looked like it worked at the windows desktop (or maybe vsync is disabled in aero), I could not even test it on a single game. I had to remove the custom mode just to get back to 1920x1080@60 and re-enable it in my games and verified all was back to normal. I also tried 75hz in there just for the heck of it.

    I don't understand why it lets us enable it, and it passes the test when creating it. Who knows, but I have given up on it actually running at 120hz. Oh well, it was worth trying :)
     
  6. s0ysauce45

    s0ysauce45 Notebook Evangelist

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    So I guess I will end up returning mine :( After talking to Donald at PowerNotebooks.com, I decided that returning it would be the best thing. I'm now back in the market for another laptop, but I haven't decided if I will still go with the GT683DXR.

    One thing is for certain, if I order anything from here on out, it will definitely be with PowerNotebooks.com, as Donald and the crew there are pleasurable, knowledgeable, and extremely helpful from beginning to end. I definitely recommend anyone thinking about getting this laptop to order there, as Donald told me this was merely the second problematic MSI laptop he's dealt with since starting business with them.
     
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    Thanks Henry...but you are only the 3rd return for refund (or exchange)...what I said was there were only two before you :)
     
  8. Burtman88

    Burtman88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    it says MONITOR\LGD01E9
    and in games with fraps and vsync on it went past the 60s in some scenes and in main menu i was getting 120 fps, iam so confused
     
  9. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    I decided to try another game after reading your message. OK now I agree, there is something to this.

    I am able to play Battlefield Bad Co 2 with vsync on and when I played with settings (except I had to leave it on 1920x1080, my custom 120 hz res) I could get 100+ fps. I turned vsync on and off in game, and verified it is working. I could see tearing when off and ZERO tearing when on. So I take back my initial resopnse above. I do think we are seeing 120 hz for real. Wonder if that means we can view 3D on our displays? :D

    It acts goofy, as the first 4 games I tried I couldn't even pick the resolution, but when I tried just now with a 5th game it worked. Weird.

    Just tried Alien vs Predator, also get 100+ FPS with vsync on and verified no tearing.
     
  10. Burtman88

    Burtman88 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yah i have nvidia 3d stuff so ill try to hook that up tomorrow after work since i have to wake up at 4:30 am to get rdy for work. But yah this is weird but also looking at nvidia control patern there isnt any option for 3d so maybe these are 120hz but not 3d. which i will still be very happy with since 3d does get annoying everyonce in awhile
     
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    CyberChulo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, just got the 683R. I noticed that when I unplug the power and start playing games, it's not using the card to it's fullest potential. I will drop frames from 40fps to 15fps. If I plug in the power cord, it jumps back up. Do you know where the setting is to keep the card running at full speed? I've tried changing the power settings to High performance but still no good.
     
  12. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    It could be that the 570m does not run at full speed on battery, not sure. I looked around and the only setting I saw was was the pci express "link power state" in the advanced power settings, but I don't think that is going to help.

    I plan to game when plugged in, and when I'm on battery I want to save as much power as possible so it goes for as long as it can. Like if I take it to work and don't bring the power brick I'd rather get a few hours use (no games) than one hour on full power.
     
  13. Sunbros

    Sunbros Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not sure if it works, but you can try this out. Still should play games while being plugged, otherwise battery life will be very short lol.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...65-no-powermizer-windows-7-a.html#post5725749
     
  14. alexguta92

    alexguta92 Newbie

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    could someone post some temps on the GT683R,from the reviews it seems the GPU and CPU are well cooled but it gets quite hot on the surface,in the upper case.
     
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    We laser shot the temps on the keyboard and palm rest area in our Shootout between the MSI GT683R vs. PowerPro R 11:36 video at about 8 minutes in. See PowerNotebooks's Channel - YouTube
     
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    alexguta92 Newbie

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    so is that ok in your opinion?does it compare to the Asus G53SW?
     
  17. Hyambergair

    Hyambergair Newbie

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    Hey guys, I've been watching this thread for a few days. :)

    And am very interested to know if these (MSI GT683DXR-423US)-as listed on ebay - machines are 3d capable in terms of the screen that is. ?

    Also what does the 570m corrolate to in desktop terms.

    Is ebay a trusted and secure way to go about an import?

    Sorry for all the questions, im new and want to make sure im getting the right machine as im all the way from south africa :) - so importing all the way!

    Appreciate any help.
    :D
     
  18. Sunbros

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    The stock screen isn't 3d capable, and I haven't seen resellers offering it. I'm not sure of the perfomance of the 570m, but it should do fine and it looks like it's gonna OC well.

    I'd recommend buying off a reseller, some in the usa will ship to South Africa I believe, ebay isn't the best to buy electronic stuff.
     
  19. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'll take this one since I came across this info (think it was from notebookcheck.com). The 570m is similar to a desktop 550TI or a 560. I haven’t gotten into overclocking yet but keep in mind there is a ton of room to overclock with low starting clocks and low temps overall.
     
  20. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    The 570m at stock is most similar to an underclocked Desktop GTX 460 768. (with twice the GDDR5)

    Multiple people have moved the clocks up to full desktop GTX460 768 clocks and beyond by just moving an overclocking slider.

    Note please, comparing a mobile GPU vs a desktop GPU is a tad tricky, as most desktop GPUs compared have OC'd 4GHz i5/i7s behind them whereas mobile GPUs have mobile ~3GHz stock clocked i7s.
     
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    Desktop 550TI is much closer to the 560m due to the lower shader count (192). The 570m should out-perform the Desktop 550Ti based upon GPU potency alone.

    Desktop GTX 560 (not the Ti) is close, but has noticably higher clocks and 256-bit memory as compared to the 192-bit of the 570m.
     
  22. Hyambergair

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    Amazing thanks KernalPanic,dajohu and Sunbros. Made life a whole lot easier.

    its a bummer about 3d as its nice to have a beastly machine thats awesome as an entertainment machine.
     
  23. Porter

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    It is a very nice machine with only a couple downsides from my perspective. It’s feature rich with a good sandy bridge I7, tons of ram, plenty of storage, USB 3.0, very nice screen and of course the GTX570m. It’s got great battery life, 3 hrs or so depending on settings (many gaming laptops are closer to 1 hr, maybe 2 at most). LED’s are a nice touch, as is the turbo button for people that don’t want to screw with overclocking, and the extra fan setting is nice too.

    It’s only missing one feature I wanted, backlit keyboard. Another feature it’s lacking in 3D screen. Preliminary tests seem to indicate it can do 120 hz refresh, which is not common on laptops (need more people and more test first to absolutely confirm). All found in a 15” form factor for well under 2k. Good bang for the buck.
     
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    For owners of the 683R, is there a way to make change the font size of windows without adjusting the dpi? Like in the old windows where you can select the actual point size instead of choosing 100%, 125% or 150%?
     
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