The Official MSI GT60/70 970m/980m Upgrade Thread

my nb is using a 240 watts dell. I don't put my laptops battery when I am not on the go. so this means my nbs model can utilize the 240 watts adapter?

 

It won't go beyond what it's designed to use.

 

Hi Ninjaneer!

I had a similar issue on my system when I changed the GPU.
My i7 was bumping from 1,2GHz to 3,1GHz I only realized it when I started to monitor the components with AfterBurner + HWInfo.

I saw some games running very fine in a second and on the next one was a piece of crap... This was very annoying because the game sometimes had severe shuttering.

I solved my problem with ThrottleStop.
I locked my CPU in the maximum turbo boost speed and all games run fine.
I've also realized that some games doesn't need full speed in the processor, it only heats more.

Give a try on ThrottleStop I believe that it will help you.

 

Thanks, I have throttle stop, disabled EIST and C1E. Tried 100% clock and chipset modulation but it seems to be a power issue. I am monitoring the limits and when utilization limit is turned off (the GPU request higher clock speed) the power limit turns on instantly. As soon as utilization limit comes back on, power limit turns off.

I have seen several posts of people with the gt780dx or the white book version working just fine with the gtx980m but mine will not. Anything over 135w-140w demand (GPU + CPU) will cause the power throttling. See the file attached

Maybe I am just unlucky and have a high power requirement for some reason. I have a Kill-a-Watt coming in 2 days(hooray amazon prime) to determine max power draw on the system. I may be dropping down to GTX970m.

 

It took me sometime to learn how to use ThrottleStop...
To modulate properly the speed into i7 you NEED EIST, otherwise it doesn't work.

Other little thing that can be a pain in the a** is the BD PROCHOT, disable it if it was enabled.
I though that my system was damaged because this little box...

 

Can you give u a step by step procedure for MSI user's on how to use throttlestop? Especially those people who's going to try the application first time? Thanks

 

Eh guys noob question..have you seen an or 3.1b? I can't find it one.. Thanks

 

Now this is simply not true. I tried - and newest Nvidia driver gives the same error as the un-modded one about a year ago.

Maybe you could remind us how to do it? I think there used to be a guide, i think in this very thread, but I just can't find one for some reason (and laptop2go seemed to stop updating theirs since mid 2015)?

 

I will do it, let me take some screenshots of how I configured mine and also a explanation why.
Just as an example, without the ThrottleStop in FireStrike my system got 6.5k after the tunning made in Throttle I got almost 7.9 - 8k.

No overclocks were apllied to GPU, the only thing I did was to lock the i7 to 3.1GHz, which is the highest speed achieved by turbo boost in 4 active cores in mine 3610QM.

 

NICE!!! show us please. And the version of Throttlestop that you use

 

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I last posted here...work got me pretty busy lately
Mega did expire my links for a reason to me unknown (maybe a bit of innactivity?)
Anyway here are the new ones (they are the same files in the OP):

MSI 970m 6GB
https://mega.nz/#!bVtjCDYR!EeLugoeMteGz0s9-KoBewGdn2yS0Cbspems5byOGt9M

MSI 980m 8GB
https://mega.nz/#!bR1ilbYb!tTfQ-eBEH-EceQhd1ikzsFS65-zqrjem6KQZ3EW-ACQ

@Talon
I'm back to my GT60 again. I took it back from my friend cause he was using it "only for facebook and youtube"...

 

This made me laugh too much !!!!

 

Yeah..a friggin 2000$ laptop getting used only for some lame youtube browsing...this ridiculous! And I put all that money and time to install 4TB of HDDs and a 980m...I took it back and I'm glad I did!!
It's the same with my 300$ headphones. They always get compared to some 10$ iphone earbuds, and people are like: what's the point in spending all that money when my iphone sounds "the same"...
There's a reason they cost 290$ more...

 

GREAT SUCCESS!!!! Check it out now!

Gt780dx with throttle stop and lessons learned...


Throttle stop how to use general http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/

Attached pictures are my settings. EIST must be on, disable BDPROCHOT(this allows the system to under clock the processor if the GPU is too hot and vice versa)

Also, make sure when you set your multiplier that you are sure that the system is designed to handle it (I am playing it safe here) so go into the "TRL" and use the max Turbo Ratio Limit you feel comfortable with if you want to use Turbo Boost.

I disabled all C state also, I am no expert here so I am open to feedback.

Also, I have two dell power supply's(240W) that gave me some heartache. With Kill-A-Watt, the dell PSU would tap out at 180W, just flat line. I switched back to stock PSU and guess what.... peak Power I saw being used was 209W... wtf lol... so long story short, the system became very unstable with the Dell PSUs and would shutoff during Firestrike benchmark but as soon as I went back to the stock PSU, Benchmark and games are no problems.

Let me know if anyone has any corrections/ updates/feedback.

Lastly, I tested with Intel Speed Step enabled and disabled in BIOS, no change seen after using throttle stop.

 

What temps are people getting while gaming with the 970m/980m? Mine seem a little high. Just playing counterstrike source, has my temps on the 970 are around 83c.
Gonna go back in and make sure I have good contact with the heatsink, but was curious of others. Not using a notebook cooler atm either.

 

Very Nice!
I know that ThrottleStop would help you!

God bless @ unclewebb for his program, which is very small and can do greater things!

Enjoy your new power Ninjaneer!

 

Here's my GTX970m result for Firestrike

Stable @7.5k

 

If Ninjaneer’s GTX 980M is putting out 7499 and your GTX 970M is putting out 7582 on firestrike, does that mean that you’re getting as much performance with your 970M as he’s getting with his 980M? Or is the graphic score what matters?

 

Woi Aladin. What happened to you? You said you're going to post here after 3 hrs from your work.

As to your question. I think it's a combination of the gpu and cpu bench test and firestrike average the total score..


Or maybe the cpu made the Physic score soar high on my firestrike results

 

Oh I deliberately didn’t post anything more that day because 4.1GHZ is the most I can get n my 3920XM. The EXP GDC Laptop External PCI-E Graphics for laptops that I told you about does work on our barebones 16f3. I was going to post pictures of it in operation but I forgot. I tried it with an EVGA GTX 970 and it worked just fine. I was happy because I was getting more performance by spending less $$$. But that was that. I shipped back the GTX 970 and the EXP GDC Laptop External PCI-E Graphics back to amazon because using that thing is too untidy. First of all you’re going to need to have your laptop constantly open to access the mini PCI-E port (the place under the power button area where the Wi-Fi card goes). Then there’s too much wires running along the ground not mention you might be using a 500 watt adapter to push these desktop GPUs. I don’t feel good about consuming all that energy to play video games although the card itself never really burns that much energy unless you’re overclocking. I prefer having an internal laptop GPU because when I use that EXP GDC Laptop External PCI-E Graphics it feels like the portability of my Laptop is gone. The only reason why I tried this route is because like you said the GTX 980M might be the last upgrade for our laptops. That would be sad because the 3920 and 3940Xms would be capable of pushing future games

 

Don't loose hope. Who knows Pascal might push for an mxm gpu of just pulling 100 watts plus the fact that our nb also can read amd mxm gpus too. I saw the thread in techinferno

 

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’m pinning my hopes on pascal. As for AMD I have no faith in them. I already knew of their GT60 compatibility. I was doing some research the other day and I noticed that their latest most powerful MXM GPU (I forgot what the name was) is quite weaker than the GTX 970M. I might be wrong, but if I’m right then there’s reason to believe that their next MXM release (if there’s a future one) will not be as powerful as the current NVidia GTX 980M. That makes no sense. I don’t want to run games on medium or low settings. Only high and ultra would cut it for me

 

I am at about 72c while playing CS:GO

 

Thanks Aladin, I put my glasses on, and realized I was looking at cpu, not gpu.....lol. I am getting about the same temps as you are, thanks for replying.

 

Hello folks. I'm hoping I'm haven't just bricked my laptop! Please tell me I haven't!

Here's what I did; I have a GT60 2PE 3K with a 880m. I wanted to upgrade to a 980m so I tried to update my bios. I started with E16F4IMS.50T. I used the UEFI BIOS Update tool to flash version E16F4IMS.50V. Then the laptop would only boot to the Aptio Setup Utility. I could still use the bios update tool so I flashed back to the original bios which shows up in the system information but it still boots to the Aptio Setup Utility. If I change the boot mode from UEFI to Legacy it flashes up the MSI logo about 3 times then tries to boot windows as far the logo and then the BSoD appears. Other than that I'm stuck in the the Aptio Setup Utility.

Any ideas if there's anything I can do? I'm mortified!

EDIT: Also might be worth mentioning I downgrade windows from 8 to 7 when I first got the laptop.Not sure if this could effect things as the bios is for windows 8.

 

You didn't brick it.

Were you originally running the system in UEFI mode, or Legacy mode? It sounds like some part of boot configuration changed, but Windows is still there (so your data should be there, too).

 

Phew! I was really worried I'd bricked it. Thanks for telling me that.

I never changed anything in the bios before this it would have been in the default mode. I'm not sure if that's UEFI or Legacy though.

Also, in the SATA information screen, I cam see my HDs but I can't scroll through them. Not sure if this has anything to do with it.

 

Hi, please I have read this thread, but I have problem with upgrade my GT7 0NC. The GTX670M went out, so I have bought original MSI GTX970M with 3GB vRam (it is upgrade kit). I am using Windows 10 and I have flashed the .71X BIOS. The card is recognised, windows downloaded drivers, everything looks OK, but Optimus doesn´t work and every 3D applications using IGP Intel only. What I do wrong? Should I flash vBios for 6GB MSi version? Or should I using the modded drivers (link to modded .inf is wrong)? Thank you for your answer, regards
Pavel

 

Go to Nvidia Control Panel. Go to "Manage 3d settings" Under Global settings click "HIgh Performance Nvidia processor".

If the problem still persist, upload here the original "NVidia.dispi" file (found in NVidia installer) so I can mod the file for you

 

High performance nvidia processor setting is wtihout efect. So I have downloaded the last nvidia drivers (361.91), extract it, found the nv_dispi.inf, and here you are. Please modifiy it for me. Do you thing, it will solve my problem? I have made the screen of vBios of my card. Here is information from the nvflash --list command:
NVIDIA display adapters present in system:
<0> GeForce GTX 970M (10DE,1618,1462,1141) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,PCI,D:00,F:00
I don´t know, how to upload file on this thread, so i uploaded it to Mega for you:
https://mega.nz/#!HUUCCKIa!LADzhBjmeWO4aCaPYtIju9zUlzWg2HYjQ3epg31IvvA
and screenshot of my vBios MSI GTX970m 3GB version:
https://mega.nz/#!bUUzxLCb!bFf5xVzWHR1QqdOTduDPmuNgvGRogyrWzXtuZTvQNN8
Thank you for your support!
regards

 

I managed to get my PC working again by enabling Legacy mode and reinstalling windows. Everything installed now.

Is there anyway to overclock the core further than +135 MHz?

 

Can you please take a screen shot of your 970m hardware ID ? It's found in the device manager\display properties\hardware ids.
I don't need the vbios information you posted.

 

OK, I found this 4 lines of hardware ID in Windows Device Manager:

PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1618&SUBSYS_11411462&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1618&SUBSYS_11411462
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1618&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1618&CC_0300

 

Your hardware ID is "1618" for your 970m... click this link below for you nv_dispi.inf file.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=20871757366471584459

 

I have a question regarding the BIOS & EC version of my GT70.

Basically, when i first got this system there was a GTX880M inside of it, so the model version was GT702PE, and I updated both the BIOS and EC firmware to MSI's latest approximately 10-11 months ago. (The BIOS and EC Firmware were downloaded from the MSI GT702PE Driver page)

However, since I replaced the 880M for a Clevo 970M (6GB VRAM) the model number has changed to GT702QD.

So I just want to know if I need to update both the BIOS and EC Firmware from MSI's GT702QD Driver support page or stay with the current versions.

BIOS Version>: E1763IMS.51B
BIOS Build>: 01/29/2015
EC Version>: 1763EMS1 Ver5.17
EC Build>: 12/04/2014

 

Thank you! I have installed this driver with moded inf (with disabled digital signature) and everything works! Good job! Once more question: When I am playing, the tepmerature in OpenHardwareMonitor is about 75°C. It is OK? I am really surprised, that gt70 works nicely. Very very thank you!

PS: I have to disabled automatic driver update in System properties - Hardware. In the oposite case, Windows automatically rewrite your unsigned driver with Windows recomended and nvidia card get unfunctional again.

 

You're welcome... What game are you playing? In my experience, playing dx 11 games usually makes your gpu hot. When you play witcher, the temps plays between 80-95 degrees max. Make sure your thermal pads are lapped properly with the heatsink and thermal paste must be regularly re-paste every 6 months.

 

I am playing GTA V, Warthunder, WoT, Dirt Rally... You´re right, in DX11 game the GPU get higher temperature, about 75°C, in other games 65-70°C. The card is new, heatsink too. Thermal pads are installed carefully. Everything works perfect. fan speed is normal and when the temperature get above 60°C, fan speed is little bit higher. I thing, everything is OK ;-)

 

Hi guys, I have a gt60 0nc which is upgraded to gtx970m 6GB with clevo bios and ec T18 and 51x bios. Everything is working fine no crashes or issues but every driver
i installed past nvidia 353.30 resulted in an orange light instead of white. Games are running fine but problem is with the orange light, my fan is spinning quite loud
at random.

Anyone got this issue with nvidia optimus or should i flash to msi vbios to get the optimus working?

 

Sounds like a firmware issue - if not the EC, then the vBIOS (the Clevo vBIOS is more suspect). Can you try the MSI vBIOS?

 

Hi, when I had MSI GX60 with Radeon HD7970M, orange lights was there too. But only with new AMD drivers . I think, you have problem with drivers. When I reinstalled drivers to older drivers, everythig was OK. I don't have problem with orange lihgts on my GT70 0NC with original MSI GTX970M (3GB version) and I have to use moded drivers. The moded drivers are the latest from nvidia sites.
But it can be problem with vBios of your card. Try MSI vBios. In my case, Optimus doesn't work, I think, GTX970m doesn't support Optimus. I have still orange color on the power button. But fan speed is low.

 

Hmm any other drivers i have installed before 353.30 is working as intended with optimus and white light with modded drivers. Its after 353.30 thats where i started getting orange light.
Games still work and running fine its just a bit irritating when fan speed is pretty loud at random while idling.

Yeah i would appreciate if anyone got a msi vbios gtx970m 6GB to try and let me flash. Prior to this i don't have any problems with clevo bios in my msi or alienware with modded drivers.
This is my first time optimus is acting up with clevo vbios on my msi with the newer nvidia drivers.

 

Sorry for my previous answer, I misunderstand your problem. I had MSI GX60 previously and there was problem with ligth textures in new driver. Lights in the game was orange...... But Enduro worked fine.
I have GT70 0NC and original MSI card and power button has orange color anytime. I am running Windows 10. I tried to install old drivers 353.28 and Optimus worked, the power button was white.
I found thies drivers here: http://www.station-drivers.com/inde...topic&catid=4&id=1193&Itemid=255&lang=en#8453 .
But I didn´t have moded drivers, so games went only with IGP Intel....(Although the driver contains ID hardware of my card MS-1618, 10DE, 1141).
If I have installed latest drivers (moded), everything works but without Optimus. Can you tell me the reason, why do you wont use newest drivers than 353.30?

 

Hi, the problem with optimus is it used to work with older modded drivers. No reason why it won't work now. Any nvidia drivers past 353.30 has issue with optimus with modded drivers.
No optimus is fine with the latest nvidia drivers but in orange light, every few mins the fan will rev full speed at random and battery life takes a big hit since its using nvidia card instead of intel hd.
Its pretty irritating but gaming and performance wise has no issues.

I think an msi vbios flash might solve the issue and you won't have to mod drivers anymore.

 

I think, the full speed of fan is caused by vbios.

 

The fan profile is controlled by the EC firmware, but the vBIOS could be in conflict. I agree that it's ideal to try the MSI vBIOS. Hopefully someone has it for you, @trigger25sg

 

Anyway to further overclock the core?

 

You can, but it's best to go with unlocked ones by Svet in order to raise the headroom higher.

 

Can you send me the original "nv_dispi.inf" of your NVidia driver. And what vbios are you using? can you be more specific on the vbios? tnx

 

Hi omega939, attached is a screenshot of my clevo bios and modded nvidia nvaci file. Its a clevo vbios: 84.04.2F.00.7A which is working with optimus with old nvidia drivers until 353.30. I have the same
clevo card as you but the vbios is different.

My gtx970m device id is NVIDIA_DEV.13D8.110C.1462 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M. I can't post the inf file here as its not in the supporedt listed format.