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    The Official MSI GT60/70 970m/980m Upgrade Thread

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Talon, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. superguy25

    superguy25 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok, pardon my ignorance here as I don't want to bork my card ...

    All we have to do is go to Prema's site, download the matching vBios, flash it and we're PnP?

    I'd like to stop having to mod INFs, but I also wasn't sure if those files in the other thread still needed to be edited or not.

    Thanks!
     
  2. omega939

    omega939 Notebook Evangelist

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    That's correct
     
  3. superguy25

    superguy25 Notebook Evangelist

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    Cool. And just in case something goes wrong, it's not hard to flash back to the original (assuming I have a back up)?
     
  4. omega939

    omega939 Notebook Evangelist

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    just make sure you have an unlock bios in case something goes wrong which i highly doubt. Let me give you an idea if something goes wrong with flashing vbios. under bios settings there is an option on how how the bios will read first if its the internal gpu or descreet one. Just select the discreet one and then you can revert back the old vbios version.
     
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    hello!! could a dell gtx 980m work?
     
  6. panamaniacs2011

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    hello !! i see on your sig you are using a dell 240w power adapter , how did you made it work with the gt60? , i have two of them and i would gladly replace the 180w with one 240w.
     
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    So I've got the "GTX970M_6GB_MXM_OC_PM_v2" downloaded, but am a bit lost on exactly what to do. I run the ModMe.bat file like it says, then do a restart. Afterwards I test to see if i can install nvidia drivers like normal but still seems like a no-go.

    Am I missing a step or 2 here?

    **EDIT**

    After following the instructions here:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-and-play-drivers-gt60-70-ivy-bridges.789799/

    Everything seems to be working great! Was able to install without a modded inf and am now using geforce experience for game optimizations :)
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2016
  8. Gilles25580

    Gilles25580 Newbie

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    Hello,

    Sorry for my poor English.

    I use a GT70-0ND with a Bios modified by Svet (thanks) and a MSI GT970M With the Vbios CLEVO. I use Windows 10 PRO 64 bit and before yesterday all is ok.
    But today i make a Windows 10 update and Optimus don t be active. I can t use my GT970M now. My windows 10 ver is 1607.

    Someone have one idea please ?
    Thanks
     
  9. superguy25

    superguy25 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just did a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro (before the Anniversary Update) and it didn't work for me either. I've found Windows 10 to be fussier with drivers, and with Intel drives in particular.

    I'd be sure to download the Intel drivers specifically for our generation as I've found out the graphics drivers are actually different for Ivy Bridge, Haswell, and Broadwell/Skylake. Try this driver:

    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...ows-10-and-Windows-7-8-1-15-33-?product=81499 as it's for the Ivy Bridge graphics.

    I haven't had time to try it yet myself as I've been busy. Please let me know if that helps you.

    Super
     
  10. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    yes. Might not be optimal, with the dell vbios it might throttle differently but really should still be more than acceptable.
     
  11. Gilles25580

    Gilles25580 Newbie

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    Hello Superguy,
    Thanks for you re answer. I try to update the intel drivers, i modify the NVidia drivers like this and install them like the second tutorial because the checksum isn t correct but i can t use again my NVidia card...
    http://null-bin.blogspot.fr/2015/08/how-to-modify-nvidia-notebook-driver.html
    install:
    http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how...8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/

    So, i downgrade Windows like this and now my NVidia card can be used !
    http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/...-period-10-days-windows-10-anniversary-update

    Thanks for all from France and have a good day,
     
  12. panamaniacs2011

    panamaniacs2011 Notebook Evangelist

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    thank you !! and could i brick the card if i flash it with an msi or clevo vbios?
     
  13. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Most likely it won't be bricked as long as you follow the instructions.
     
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  14. panamaniacs2011

    panamaniacs2011 Notebook Evangelist

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    this is my horrible heatsink mod , but at least is working :) , im getting 75 degrees max temps with a gtx 970m !! what difference with my previous gtx 880m that maxed out 93 degrees all time.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. superguy25

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    Doesn't have to be pretty - just functional. You'll probably never look at it again. :)
     
  16. Charles Smith

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    Worked a treat for me too. Thank you so much!
     
  17. NintendoBlood

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    Hey guys, im not sure if this was asked before but I have a MSI GT70 0NC with a fried Nvidia GTX 670m 3g and looking to replace it, after looking at the prices of replacement 670m cards im wondering if its just better to upgrade cards. I wanted to know if the 970m upgrade would work on my laptop? If you guys need more info. on my laptop i can provide it.
     
  18. panamaniacs2011

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    im selling a dell gtx 675m and an msi gtx 880m, you had the fermi gtx 670m or the kepler gtx 670mx?

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-msi-gtx-880m-8gb.794811/

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-gtx-675m-with-samsung-memory-chips-2x-qx9300-cpus.794324/
     
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    How can i tell if its fermi or kepler, do they matter if i want to upgrade to 970m? Also, the heatsink, i understand i can remove any protrusions to fit the 970m, but if some parts dont reach/touch do i just stack thermal pads?
     
  21. NintendoBlood

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    Okay i did some looking and my 670m is fermi, does that change my ability to upgrade to 970m?
    Also does powersupply matter when upgrading? Will the 970m card not perform at its max potential with my laptop?
     
  22. panamaniacs2011

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    It does not matter, 970m will work, i have a gt60 and it uses a 180w with a 970m and i dont have any problems
     
  23. superguy25

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    Make sure you have Svet's 51X/71X bios or the upgrade won't work.
     
  24. NintendoBlood

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    Alright Guys thanks for all the info! I think that im going to go with the 970m :)
     
  25. NintendoBlood

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    Also one more question. My laptop has Intel Core i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz 2.30 GHz, will that bottleneck the 970m? or will it be fine?
     
  26. NintendoBlood

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    Also one more question. My laptop has Intel Core i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz 2.30 GHz, will that bottleneck the 970m? or will it be fine?
     
  27. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It will not bottleneck the GPU.
     
  28. NintendoBlood

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    I just noticed that the 970m gpu chip is square while my 670m card and the copper on the heatsink is rectangular and possibly smaller than the 970m chip size, what do you guys think? Will the temperature be higher than usual?
     
  29. panamaniacs2011

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    you have two options , mod the heatsink with a dremel tool or get a new maxwell heatsink, the areas in red need to be gone , green needs to be filled with thermal pads

    [​IMG]
     
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  30. NintendoBlood

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    Yo, thank you for that pic it makes it 10x easier for me xD, gonna give it a try, thanks for all your guys' help!
     
  31. superguy25

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    Big thing is to make sure the heat sink lies flat against the card and makes good contact with the card. The mod doesn't have to be pretty to be functional.
     
  32. JesperN

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    Hi I've got a MSI GT683DX with a 570M MXM card, any of you guys know if it's possible to upgrade this to a more recent one
     
  33. Mullrof

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    how guys do you think is gonna gtx 1060 fit into GT60 4 gen?
     
  34. zipperi

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    I'd bet it doesn't.
     
  35. superguy25

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    I'll second that. The 1060 is supposed to be specced at 120W and the MXM slot can only power 100W. Unless you have some external connector, you won't be able to power it.

    Also from what I've seen, the 10x0 series MXM cards are wider than the the 9x0m series. 980m is probably the best you'll be able to do.

    People are already griping about not being able to upgrade systems that were supposed to be upgradeable (GT72/80). I wouldn't count on the GT60 - which was never promised that - to be able to handle it.
     
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  36. _Drake_

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    MXM type B can deliver more than 100W, infact the older M295X is rated at 125W:

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-R9-M295X.129043.0.html

    And while cards like the 780M and 880M were rated at 100/103 watts they were running way way higher than that.
     
  37. Mullrof

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    I think its not about power requirement. In this case it will just throttle. I think how can we phisicaly fit in into the GT60 and also how can we run it while it will not have optimus?
     
  38. superguy25

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    I stand corrected on the power. Looks like they're actually capable of up to 200W.

    10x0 series cards are also physically bigger than the 9x0 cards, from what I've seen. Even if it could handle the power, you're still dealing with not enough room.

    Plus, with a hotter card and only one fan shared between the GPU and CPU, you're not going to have good cooling. My 970m gets fairly hot as it is. I can see a 10x0 card throttling in our chassis.
     
  39. Mullrof

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    I was thinking that 1060 is quite cool. Isnt it?
     
  40. zipperi

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    The TDP is about 970M level, might be a little less (notebookcheck.net).
     
  41. panamaniacs2011

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    i saw a gtx 1060 pic here in nbr showing an msi gtx 1060 on a laptop with standard mxm form factor
     
  42. Techmology

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    Hey can anyone help me out with this. I Have a GT70 0NC I want to upgrade with a 980M since the old card died. I'm not especially computer savvy and some of the links above are dead or not specifically for a 980M. Can anyone help me out and make it a bit simpler for me?
     
  43. panamaniacs2011

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    depending on your old gpu heatsink you will have to either get a new one for maxwell or modify the one you already have , the first post has everything you need to know
     
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    I can modify the heat sink confidently, I already have all the tools. My uncertainty is in the modified BIOS and INF files. The links on the first post don't lead anywhere and I'm uncertain what modified BIOS I need for my laptop.
     
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    Can anyone with 32gb ram post a screenshot of the memory section of cpu-z? I'd like to check the timings :)
     
  46. superguy25

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    If you download the GT60/GT70 Prema VBios files for your specific card over at TechInferno.com, you can flash the vbios easily and won't need the modified driver anymore.

    If you don't have download access as a regular member, you can get instant access for $6. $6 for not having to mess with modded drivers anymore is worth it, IMO.

    And sorry, Felix, I only have 24GB but have all slots populated. If that'll help, I can post my timings later.
     
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    I have an MSI Whitebook 16F41 GT60 laptop.

    I purchased it secondhand from someone on here and he upgraded the GPU to a 980m.

    The long story short of it, the GPU works but it only renders when connected to an external monitor. Apparently it worked on the internal monitor in windows 8.1 but I upgraded it to 10 and never checked to see if everything was working as I assumed it was fine until War Thunder said it was using integrated graphics. MGS V ran 60+ FPS and I assumed integrated graphics couldn't do that.

    I've uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers for both Intel and nVidia and I have the most up to date BIOs and firmware I can find for the notebook and the GPU.

    I've also gone into the nVidia control panel and changed the settings to select the GPU for programs that need it.

    I've also used the context menu so that when opening the programs, it knows to use the GPU and not integrated graphics.

    I went so far as to reinstall windows to see if that helped anything. It did not.

    I assume the issue has to do with the internal monitor not being able to communicate with the GPU.

    The reason being, when I run any game or benchmark on the laptop monitor, the performance is roughly 10-25% of what the performance is on the external monitor because it will only use integrated graphics. (Determined by FPS in Heaven, MSI Kombuster, League of Legends, and other games).

    Once I connect an external monitor, the 980m will render on the external monitor, but only on the external monitor.

    Since this is a laptop, I want the GPU to render on the laptop monitor so I can play games while I travel.

    Any help in figuring that out would be appreciated.

    Thanks ahead of time.

    System Specs

    MSI GT60 16F41 Whitebook Rev:0.C

    OS: Win 10 64-bit
    CPU: i7-4710mq
    Chipset: Haswell Rev. 06
    Southbridge: HM87 Rev. C2
    BIOS: E16F4IG6.7OY
    EC:16F4EG62 Ver 5.09
    GPU: Clevo mxm GTX 980m (Flashed with MSI bios)
    GPU Bios: 84.04.48.00.29
    GPU Driver: 372.90 WHQL
    Integrated Graphics: Intel HD 4600
    Integrated Driver: 20.19.15.4501
    Laptop Monitor: Only listed as generic PnP monitor in Device Manager
     
  48. Rhadamanthis

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    hi guys. is safe to flash prema mod vbios 980m for my original clevo installed in msi gt60? is latest vbios?
     
  49. maykbazovski

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    Hello.


    I have a Msi GT70 0NE laptop. I update the BIOS and firmware.Later I changed GPU from actual GTX 680M to GTX 980M.

    I installed Nvidia Geforce Experience and GTX 980m driver. Nvidia Geforce Experience shows that a system with GTX 980m.

    Although I selected “GPU” in Nvidia Control Panel or I selected “run with GPU”in games,
    Geoforce GTX 980m shown as disabled in GPU activity icon.

    While GPU driver is installing, GPU-Z application shows GPU is runing for a few seconds.

    My system;

    Microsoft Windows 10 Home Single Language 64 bit
    BIOS Version: E1762IMS.70X
    EC Version: 1762EMS1 Ver5.06
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
    Memory: 32 GB @ 800 Mhz
    Graphics: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000, 2112 MB
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M, 8GB
    VBIOS Version: 84.04.22.00.0A,8388608


    Thanks for your helps...

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  50. bigbadVuk

    bigbadVuk Notebook Guru

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    I might have issues with my GPU/PSU, so if I upgrade both, it'll cost me about $600, but I'd be putting in $600 into a 4.5 year old gt780dxr which has had different kinds of issues over the years. And I'm not even SURE it's a GPU/PSU problem (I've tested pretty much everything else, and still have issues (see my post here if you wanna know more)).

    Do I take the risk and try investing $600 into my precious, or do I just bite the bullet and spend $2200 on a new GT72VR with the 1060 card? Decisions decisions.

    How happy were you with your upgrade from say 570M to 970M, and am I too late to the party?
     
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