The Sky's the limit..... The New SkyLake GT72S, with desktop 980 GPU!

Yes I suspect Nvidia have been cherry picking for some time now.

 

Just a heads up, the GT72 GTX 980 is a 150W model.

 

So to get this correct:
870DM - 200W
775DM - 180W
MSI GT72S - 150W
MSI GT80 - 120W each (SLI)

Is this how it looks now?

 

I don't know about the GT80, I think its above 120W, but the others > yes

 

The missing clip on the video review:

 

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=118215

Is it confirmed somewhere else the GT80 is getting desktop 980 MXM cards or still rocking M versions? Looks like they're getting M versions even on that crazy high over priced laptop.

 

Talon, the GT80 + 980 SLI has been mentioned, at the 980 release there was a GT80 there, and Nvidia included it in their announcement for the 980 in a laptop release.



Apparently the GT80 Skylake 980 SLI model isn't ready for release yet, as it hasn't been announced.

The other GT80 Skylake model pre-order listings are ahead of MSI listing them on their own website, so I would consider it all in a state of flux without confirmation from MSI at this point.

I would hope MSI still provides the 980m SLI price point, as the 980 SLI price point is going to be higher

 

Thanks for the reply! Should be a beast of a laptop.

 

Wait, so which GT72S models have 75Hz panels? That was one of the reasons I decided to go with a GT72S...


They haven't changed their site to show otherwise:
http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/GT72S-6QD-Dominator-G.html#hero-specification

 

I'm confused too. I thought all the GSync GT72S models were at 75. Just like the broadwell ones released this summer?

Is there any indication that GTX model will be eventually available in a non anniversary edition without the red and the dragon stuff on it? Nvidia's pic of a normal looking 72 is promising, but they don't know any better I'm sure.

 

So far the only 75Hz SKU I've seen is the Dragon with desktop GTX980.

The GT80 will have both GTX980M and GTX980 SKUs just like GT72S.

 

So this would be a valid reason to ask for a refund, right?

If I saw MSI's page for this model and it says 75Hz screen, then I receive one and it's a 60Hz screen.

 

So if the GT72S doesn't have a 75Hz screen, the only difference b/w the "S" and non-"S" GT72 is the chipset?... And the only noticeable difference b/w the HM170 and the CM236 chipsets is the number of PCIe 4x gen3 M.2 slots?

Edit:
NVM, The CM236 has VTd, while the HM170 doesn't. I need VTd.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/90584,90593

 

except scroll down to the bottom of the page and read the exclamation point note.

 

Bottom of which page? I went back to the MSI site and don't see a note.

 

Just above the links at the bottom of the page:

"The specifications may differ from areas and we keep the right to change without notice. Please check the specification with your local dealers."

 

Ah ok. No GT72S for me then. Maybe they'll add it to all GT72S models in the future.

 

MSI GT72S 6QE Dominator Pro G-265UK on OcUK is listed with Product Specification:
- Display: 17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD Anti Glare Wide View Angle IPS 75Hz WITH NVIDIA G-SYNC

This is the entry level GT72S with a GTX 980M.

 

CM236 also allows for PCI-E RAID. The HM170 allows only for M.2 SATA RAID.

So if you want the fastest RAID solution possible ...

 

The IPS panel in the GT72/GT72S is a 60 Hz panel. The Gsync enabled models are automatically overclocked to 75 hz through the Nvidia drivers but is still a 60 hz panel. I'm guessing the non gsync models are still at 60 hz (but could manually be overclocked to 75 hz or more).

 

The panel will be tested to meet that refresh rate. Not all panels may do it. Regional spec and price differences will happen (the uk pay a lot more for their machines).

 

So models shipped to the UK are more likely to be able to run at higher refresh rates?

 

My MSI GT780 panel is who-know-how-old and I overclock it to 88Hz (no jealousy please) when gaming and set to 72 for everything else.

 

How do you OC a panel?

 

superguy25, Nvidia Control panel, Change Resolution, Create a Custom Resolution - and only change the refresh rate from 60 to ??(?).

Max depends on panel. My Chi Mei 17" would do 100hz no problem, some could get 105hz. AUO 17" peaked at 70hz. Samsung 18" will do 100hz.

Sample:

 

Sweet. Thanks. Will it show only refresh rates the panel can support?

 

Yes and can running it at a higher refresh rate damage it (the display)?

 

I've never seen one fail but anything that happens is your responsibility. You can set custom resolutions to any level, even beyond what your monitor can manage. If it's not stable the screen will go black.

 

Mine sits at 80 hz its nice though

 

superguy25, look closely at the "Customize" dialog, look at the bottom above the "Create Resolution" button, there is a checkbox to check:

"Enable Resolutions not exposed by display"

That is what you are looking for

 

IsLNdbOi, so far no, but YMMV

I would find the unstable point, and drop at least 5-10hz below it, just to make sure you are at a stable refresh.

I usually only run it high during gaming, if the game fps is in that range, I set the custom refresh at or below average fps.

 

Not sweet. Sorry but this is the reason to hate optimus. You can't overclock panel with it

 

James, stop drop and roll, sell it and get a direct connect/mux NVIDIA dGPU laptop, friends don't recommend friends buy Optimus laptops

 

I already did, I was feeling frown for all GT60/70 owners Just tested 100Hz as suggested and if I can keep it this way it gonna be super time playing L4D2 on 100-tick servers.

 

75Hz is not working, it starts to flickering :





However, 70Hz works fine:

 

Yes every panel will be different, just like any overclocking it's luck of the draw.

 

GenTechPC, AUO screen? Model?

Same thing happened on my G750JH, AUO screen, 70hz.

The AUO had really nice screen output, I didn't miss the 100hz refresh, much

 

Like I mentioned it before all GT72, GT72S are using the same LGD0469 IPS panel regardless the GPU or G-Sync enabled / Disabled:

You can watch our review here:

at: 8:59

and here: at: 4:39

To sum it up:

- All GT72, GT72S are using the LGD0469 IPS panel 1080P matte-type panel.
- All GT72, GT72S with mobile GPU has 60Hz refresh reate.
- GT72S with desktop GTX980 is the only SKU that have 75Hz refresh rate.
- All GT72, GT72S are G-Sync enabled except the lowest SKU: the GT72 Dominator-019 with GTX970M are not G-Sync enabled.
- GT72 Dominator-019 is the only SKU that MSI does not advertised it's G-Sync enabled.

So what's going on? We think MSI want to have the option to use different panel other than LG IPS on different production batch for GT72 Dominator-019, therefore, G-Sync is not enabled and not advertised on this specific SKU.

 

GenTechPC, it looks like the LG LGD0469 is a LP173WF4-SPF1:
http://www.panelook.com/LP173WF4-SPF1_LG Display_17.3_LCM_overview_21056.html

Seems like an odd thing to do. To use the same panel across all the models, binning the ones that will OC to 75hz from the 60hz specification. You would think MSI would fit the panel spec to the need instead.

Thanks for all the details

 

GenTechPC, not sure if this is significant, but I noticed in that GT72S video that the GPU-Z details show CUDA not enabled for that GPU.

I checked on Nvidia's CUDA support site:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/cuda/supported-gpus
and the Notebook GTX 980 is listed as supported:
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-980

Not sure when that CUDA box would be unselected, my GT80 980m's both show CUDA checked:



Any idea why CUDA is shown unchecked at 5:20 and 11:06 in your video?

 

It does supports CUDA it was just the older version of GPUz not reading it right.

Also the screen on the Dragon can go up to 100Hz:

 

This was directed at Kevin, but I'll ask again. Are you guys planning on offering the latest 950 Pro SSD by Samsung as part of the customization process and if yes, when?

 

They most likely will offer it with time. Not sure when but most resellers end up offering the latest tech. Since PCIe SSDs are new to the skylake models, maybe they just haven't updated or something.

I see that the 950 pro is available for purchase in some stores and sites, if you really want it, it is not hard to replace the SSDs. You can always choose to do it yourself

 

It's not available yet and the ETA is sometimes this month. We will list it in our system configurator as soon as it becomes available.

 

Thanks guys for clarifying!

 

This seems inconsistent with the MSI gaming web site. The GT72S are advertised as 75 Hz G-sync "ready". I wonder if they are going to make the change after another manufacturing run, or this is a BIOS or firmware future patch to make the 60 Hz default to 75 Hz.

 

It may be due to a lack of panels reaching 75hz.

 

This is the part where "spec is subject to change without notice" comes in, and it is important to show these details to consumers because anyone can assume they are really all came with 75Hz panel.

 

If the GPU is rated at 165W and the CPU at 40W for a total of 205W, does the power brick at 230 W enough? Over volt? I wonder how much the rest uses, Panel, fans, USB, SSD?

 

I thought that was thermal, not how much electricity it sucked up?