The upcoming MSI GT72..... a pre-release discussion.

Need to wait until later to confirm.

 

This quote from the article hurt my head so much:

What? This makes no-sense. What does having the latest Geforce GPU have to do with not including a high res screen option? If anything it would be the opposite.

Anyway my reason for wanting a high res screen is not for gaming, but for extra workspace.

 

It means price-wise we should be fine without 3-4k

 

Lol that's a crap excuse. Why even mention the latest Gefoce GPU in relation.

Also it's not like they can't offer another SKU like the GS60..

 

Because even though we know that current "latest GPU model" is cr@p for its money but it still costs like heart and liver in comparison with other components of notebook.

 

I am still here.

Battery life won't be affect by the new design, they put battery internal so the laptop can be little bit thinner.

 

Early reports from Computex indicated a "full-HD IPS display with a matte finish" screen, but we will have to wait and see. As with all models, specifications and hardware may vary, and are always subject to change. I am thinking we may see newer screens on future SKU's, when the next-gen chips become available, i.e., the new GT72 Xtreme Edition flagship with 9-Series chipset, and the NVidia GTX-980M (Maxwell). Of course with the newer tech, expect an upward price point as well. Also, for these first release 880M GT72's, in spite of the new 230W PA, I do not foresee a lot of benefit..... an improvement, yes, but marginal at best. These GT72's will still be running hot, power-hungry, throttle prone Kepler GPU's, and I suspect any headroom will still be very limited by bios and vbios parameters. Bios modder's will circumvent this of course, but with this, BURN BABY, BURN, LOL! Also, as OC'er's push the limits, it will be interesting to see how the embedded CPU fairs in all of this, and if the newly designed cooling rises to the task. My thought is it's probably best to run the 880M systems stock, and the real fun begins with the next-gen GT72.

 

I don't agree with "newer tech - bigger price". It gonna stay the same.

 

I think it might take a couple years for the GT72 to edge out the GT70, so as long as the GT70 is still in retail, the GT72 will likely be set at a higher price point. Either that or the GT70 will see a discount.
This is the same case with the GE60/70 Apache versus the upgrade to the GS60/70 series. (There needs to be a cost incentive to allow for older models to keep selling.)

 

I think with Maxwell, the price-point will see at least a $100+ bump when the new tech is introduced..... and the new flagship (with base i7) will be priced around $2,999. Also, he obviously missed my reference to Xtreme Edition, which will be in the 4k range.

As to retail pricing (without my upgrade cost), and the introduction of new tech...... if I reflect back on my last 3 MSI notebooks, all top flagships in their day..... I believe it looks something like this:

GT783DXR = $1,999. w/GTX-580M
GT70-0NE = $2,399. w/GTX-680M
GT70-2OD = $2,699. w/GTX-780M (a year ago, released 2 June 2013)

And if my memory is correct, the top GT72 w/GTX-880M SKU is slated to retail around $2,849. Generally, when a new model is released, prices of previous models will periodically decline, usually in $50 to $100. increments, until the unit is finally discontinued. Oddly enough, it seems my GT70-2OD-039US Dragon Edition has defied this. New surplus of this model is still available, and it's price has held at $2,699., and some retailers on Amazon are actually asking $3,299.

Since the GT72 will be replacing the GT70, I don't think it will take two years to edge it out. I expect GT70 production will cease long before then, but that's not to say we won't see some surplus GT70's for sale in two years. Two years is an awful long time in tech-speak.

Anyhow, we shall see!

 

For most people I think a 1080p panel is a better idea, otherwise there are just no options since the panels are not made. It would be nice to have an option though.

 

Still intently monitoring this thread, really looking forward to seeing some reviews on this one.

 

Yo Ken!!

Since they did so, I wonder if they have even shrunken the capacity of the battery, I hope not, haha.

Speaking about displays, I have been reading the debates of IPS and LED, they say that IPS has input lag due to the 5ms response time. While some may feel frustrated to experience ghosting and stuff like that when they play FPS with 5ms response time, it would be an issue. I guess only the review will unveil more details about the display, we're so clueless right now.

Just to confirm, Maxwell will be made in 16nm, not 20nm anymore, am I correct?

NVIDIA preparing four Maxwell GM204 SKUs | VideoCardz.com

Yikes, if this applies, I'm gonna need to save more money.. I hope it's within the range of 1.8-2k USD, it's going leave a big hole in my wallet lol..

 

Regarding the screen, again, we have to wait and see. As far as the VideoCardz.com article...... interesting, 3 different scenarios proposed, somewhat confusing, and it leaves me scratching my head. Regarding what the next-gen Maxwell will be designated, I've asked the same questions within this thread. Anyhow, I am patiently waiting for the next-gen 20nm Maxwell, but if it turns out to be a 16nm process, that's all the better! What sticks out most in my mind, is the quote regarding the article's source, SemiAccurate:

Information on the mysterious Maxwell is ever changing or evolving.....

NVidia may skip 20nm process technology, jump straight to 16nm

Too funny..... Who knows? LOL!

 

Gosh, then there's no reliable source of info for now.. Also, wait and see then..

It looks like it's on sale at Germany already.

2299.00 EUR, yikes!
MSI GT72-2PE16SR21B - Intel Core i7-4710HQ 2.50GHz (Win 8.1/GTX880M) - 001781-SKU6 de Notebooks billiger notebook.de

 

Odd, the images show the GT70.

Why would Germany have dibs this early on the GT72?

 

MSI GT72 Gaming Notebook Scores With Sexy Design, Powerful Performance

 

So it begins July 18th

 

Yup, Friday is coming!!

 

So, it's still MSATA and not yet M.2 SATA..

And the model of the wifi card is unveiled finally, Killer N1525 Wireless AC. I wonder if there is a 3 antenna version, would be better but it's still good =D

Yoga Series? 180 degrees only right?

UPDATE : Here's something for eye candy
http://usgaming.msi.com/2014ProductImagePage.aspx?id=10

Product page is up already : http://usgaming.msi.com/Product/2014/Notebook/GT72-Dominator-Pro/

A while back in video, I have not heard it was M.2 SATA but the product page specs show M.2!! This is just great!! =D

 

Pre-sale date changed to 07/23/2014 according to MSI.

 

Grrrrrr......at least it's not that long off.

 

Just so everyone knows, the MSI GT72 Dominator Pro Owner's Lounge, has been created. (..... a work in-progress)

 

Just out of curiosity: Why so happy about M2?
M2 and mSATA SSDs are exactly the same, but the connection is only a little different.
I would be happy for M2, but only if it came with HM97. But no, they are still using HM87 according to the official MSI page.

 

I think he's excited about PCIe that it comes with.

 

If you use that for eGPU.... then you still have 2 2.5 SATA ports. eGPU is what notebook really needs for some video editing programs which take benefit from Desktop AMD cards.

 

PCIe support is only for HM97/QM97 chipset if you want to use it as a bootable drive (ie normal SSD).

 

Yes, that's correct. But I think he was probably talking about the speed advantage, though I may be wrong.

 

NVMe is the key word here9 along with PCIe 4x, right Cloud?

 

Yup, we will get a ton of new NVMe SSDs this year and in 2015 which needs the PCIe speeds that only 9-series will support normally. Which is why I am sad that GT72 still got the HM87 chipset.
Even if MSI give GT72 owners a M2 slot, it still needs to be routed to the PCIe channels to be able to get 1000MB/s (2 lanes) or 2000MB/s (4 lanes).
Im betting that GT72 sadly have the M2 slot routed to the SATA controller instead, which will give you top SATA3 speeds.
Even if the M2 slot is routed to say 2 PCIe lanes, due to only having a 8 series chipset (HM87) you wont be able to boot with it. It will just act as a storage container.

Thats why I asked why the lonelywolf why he was so happy with M2 slots. There are still unkown variables here if the GT72 is worth praising regarding storage.

 

It will be time to make conclusions on the machine when reviews are out and users have it too.

 

I'm excited because MSI is at least making M.2 available for their GT72, it's futureproof that way. But cloud, you are definitely right, I overlooked the fact that the GT72 came with HM87 instead of the HM97, that's a little sad.

Why not HM97? Expensive?

However, using M.2 is still beneficial for reduced latency and access time. I heard the 4K IOPS readings also increased with M.2. It gives me a smoother user experience, so why I'm not happy about this? =)

I understand that the speed is limited due to SATA and AHCI. NVMe SSDs are not released yet and I'm not in a hurry since I'm planning to buy GT72 in 2015. Let's hope improvements are done over time.

Now we just got to wait for reviews to see how the performance of the GT72 is. I heard that for notebooks, most of them come with 2 lanes only, so we shouldn't expect so much, take it as a bonus if 4 lanes is used though.

 

Probably was not ready for them during the design phase.

 

Will look and see what's in for 2015 Q1 then. I'm dying to see a review though, so excited!!

 

FYI:

Still working on the new GT72 Owner's Lounge, have made some changes, but still have a ton of corrections and/or links to test or fix..... let me know what ya think so far!

 

I think Owner's Lounge would be much better if there was a download link for a coupon on free GT72. I would even pay for shipping

 

Yep, soldered CPU! Argh! They removed NOS and increased the AC adapter rating, but now we can't upgrade the CPU.

A nice used GT70 or GT60 is probably in my future
GT72 Dominator Pro

 

Yah a little disappointed with the HQ as well, but at least thats still a very capable CPU. Even though there are higher end ones, the 4710HQ should handle most gamers needs.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...51797899628084.1073741830.172177528083&type=1

FUA!!! !@#$%^&*()

HE'S SO LUCKY!!!

I WANT TO WIN TOO!! =(

U know how he actually won the laptop?

Through this, dang..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvsB_4aS9f8

Why don't they have something like this in my country?

 

LOL, definitely a lucky as shown there.

 

gs60 and gs70 used m.2 long before gt72 so I don't understand what's the big deal here...

 

In GS70 mSATA slots

 

Also not so many.