The upcoming MSI GT72..... a pre-release discussion.

Props to the designers.. They really picked it up this time

Tempted...

 

I'm keeping a close eye

 

It looks much better and more refined this way
And speaking of thinness, it's a 17 inch desktop replacement gaming machine, it's gonna be thick and bulky
If you want thinness, it's not like msi hasn't given you an alternative: the GS70
GT series as the flagship series, I think most of the users and buyers are prioritizing maximum performance
And a bigger chassis helps achieving that (better cooling, more components etc.)

 

Thanks for clarifying it for me, cap Read jmehu.123's post, he got me right. If it is so complicated for some of members then perhaps I gonna rep him for that.

 

Relax James D.
hypersonic is just saying what we all know that high performance laptops are going thicker than your average laptop.
Your worried about the keyboard angle for comfortable typing.


It looks slightly angled to me so it should be fine.

 

Based on what we know do we think this laptop would benefit much from a cooling pad or cooling balls?

 

It looks like MSI prioritized cooling this time around with the huge vents and dual fans so I'm guessing temps should be pretty decent.
It may benefit from a laptop cooler blowing air directly into the intake and probably just raising it a bit with cooling balls but I'm hoping the stock cooling solution is fine on its own.
I just hope the fans are much quieter than before.

 

Probably just the raising will be the best idea for ocers looking at the vent and fans.

 

Agreed, the grills look massive and awesome.

 

Yeah, no need to use cooling balls. Use cooling caps

 

In case you missed it, here's a hands-on review from Engadget.

MSI's latest gaming laptop brings a more grown-up design, a couple big-ass fans

 

I'll be interested to see what numbers the storage system posts stock and with high end drives.

 

It should perform speed read/write speeds between 1500 to 2000 MB/s.

 

All I need is a single high capacity SSD, while all the "RAID" options are great I think they are a little bit over rated. I don't need the fastest read and write speeds just good reliable storage .

 

I'm going to agree with you after hearing about the reliability issues of RAID0, I'm afraid of data loss too much that I'd rather go for a single high capacity SSD as well.

Hopefully there is a SKU that comes with just 1 or 2 M.2 SSD with a 1TB HDD 7.2k rpm.

My main concern now is its cooling performance and the power brick, there's still no sight of the power adapter until now, please be compact

 

A compact 230W power adapter.....I wish but I just can't see it happening.

 

220 watt power brick? I found the 180 watt brick for the GT series to be humongous. If this be true, it's a deal-breaker for me (portability is essential for me)

 

You are in the minority in that camp, on this forum especially, 180W was the utter minimum required for the system, 220W would help it breathe. Also sizing and weight on this is not released.

 

Yeah I'll have to agree with Meaker, while nobody wants a giant power brick I think that's not going to stop many people from buying one even if it is the size of a shoe box.
I really don't see it being much bigger than the old power brick anyway.

 

Latest GT60s and 70s have been throttling due to not having enough power. 220W is an essential upgrade tbh.

 

I find all this fuss about the 220-230W power brick a bit amusing, especially considering that under heavy loads, the 180W PA was barely sufficient (and in some cases inadequate) for the GT780/783/70 series, equipped with Kepler 580M/680M/780M/880M GPU's. MSI received massive criticism over the 180W PA..... they listened, and I think for most enthusiast will welcome the added headroom of a higher-watt PA. Thank you MSI!

Even more amusing, is those who argue/complain about portability, and see the larger PA is a 'deal-breaker', rather than a blessing. To this I would like to offer the following:

Portability? Really? The GT72 is a large, power hungry 17" gaming notebook, and it's hardware can draw 200+ watts. If portability is paramount, perhaps a hi-powered 17" gaming notebook is not the best choice. Even if you opted for an equivalent 15" GT model, though smaller overall footprint, you will still be left to contend with higher temps and the same PA.

Essentially the GT72 is a DTR, and given it's tech, it really is an engineering feat. Sorry, but in this case you can't have your cake, and eat it too..... least not yet, but this will improve with the introduction of more efficient hardware. The 20nm Maxwell GPU will be a small step in the right direction.

Also, 'deal-breaker'? Really? As compared to the GT70 series, the GT72 has been reduced in weight and thickness. Do you really believe a 230W PA, will be that much larger than the 180W PA? I do not think so. Will it be so much so, that it's a deal-breaker? Sorry, but to me, the benefit far outweighs the argument here.

 

Thanks for the clarifications ppl, I see now that my expectations are currently unrealistic.
I suppose I'll have to look to the future when a compromise will not have to be made between power and footprint.

 

You could always get the gs70 I believe or whatever the maxwell refresh will be called

 

Actually, I have the GS70. Just purchased it.

Though there are issues with the GS70 (and also some that cannot be helped due to its slim form-factor) that are convincing me to return to a larger form-factor next year.

 

Yes, I believe SuperRAID 3 has this potential, but I'm not sure we will see this until the Intel 9-series chipset, and beyond. I would be very surprised to see these numbers from HM87, but I'm still excited to run the benchmarks. Can't wait!

 

Do you mind giving a little more details about the issues?

 

I am guessing he might be talking about the heat generated is one so most likely the maxwell edition shouldn't produce that much heat also maybe he wants the choice to upgrade his video card.

 

Another new GT72 article.........

Sneak Peak at MSI’s new GT72 Dominator and WS60 Workstation

Cool, It looks like the 230W power-brick is no larger than the previous 180W.

 

I'm so happy! That's definitely a bonus for me!

Now I can just wait happily for the Maxwell and Broadwell to be ready in this model.

Not only that, I hope Intel-9 series chipset would come with the GT72 next year, supporting M.2 makes the model more future proof.

Thanks Striker!!

Now, we only need to wait for a nice review to see some benchmarks and the cooling performance of this beast, woohoo!!

I also hope that the game streaming shortcut button can be customizable too, it would really be a waste for me as I don't find a need for that function in my shortcut buttons, I have better use for that button, haha.

Cheers!

 

Worst case you can modify the dell slim 240W brick with the right cable, now the system EC will expect more than 180W it could be useful again.

Also, picking delta for the PSU, good choice MSI, good choice.

 

I didn't know there's such a slim yet high powered adapter, wow. Why didn't Delta do this?

If we use the Dell Slim 240W instead of the orignal Delta that came with the GT72, would it cause any problems and would they be compatible with one another?

Not well versed in this, sorry for the silly question.

I just know that all these while the GT series uses Delta power bricks, very reliable. :thumbsup:

 

Well actually two companies make that one, Flextronics and delta do equivalent models.

You would loose your warranty and the electrical certification of the brick, modders only territory really.

 

No point going there then..

Wonder what I'm gonna do with my GT780DXR if I purchase GT72, I wonder how much mine can still fetch if I sell it

Thanks for the swift reply, Meaker

 

You better sell parts from it than in 1 peace. When I was buying this on from ebay I researched market. Yourth will go for 550-600$ max. If you leave auction for 7-10 days and put really beautiful pictures with marketing stuff like "almost TOP processor", GPU with huge vRAM etc then it actually may go as high as 800$. But may not. I would start selling GPU first with Buy it Now function (not auction, no way!).

 

But in South East Asia, Malaysia in particular, they are no notebook modders, at least not many, it would be hard for me to sell parts alone. That's why I was thinking of selling my GT780DXR as a whole instead.

Even Lenovo Y50,Y40 and Asus N550 is as powerful as my laptop now

 

The recent systems are already requiring 180W + 50W = 230W to perform better so it is reasonable for them to deploy a higher wattage version of AC adapter.
It would be more preferred this way by most of customers rather than wearing the battery out sooner than typical life expectancy.
With such, the system can perform flawlessly without bottleneck for hours and hours without interruption.

 

If somebody believes bigger AC is a dealbraker he can swap it for 180W one with ANYONE

H@ck, I will buy 180W AC on purpose to exchange it on a 220W for free

 

You still can use 180W, but if the EC is designed to take 220W then it may overload the 180W PSU.

 

The new 220/230W PSU will work with the previous GT generation (60/70)?

 

People in the past bought Alienware AC's 240W and modded their connectors to work with GT series for better CPU overclocking. Unless MSI changed connector for new AC (doubt) you can use it for previous models. Although yes, some models (GE?) may have EC which designed to work with 180W max.

 

Something came to my mind, where is the battery compartment? Or is the battery permanently attached to the laptop like the GS series?

Actually, is it a good thing? Hearing from some, they said that the battery could contribute to the heat. Kindly advice

 

Ya know, you are right, LOL! In all my excitement over the prospects of the GT72, I totally failed to notice the battery. Where is the battery compartment? It has to be internal, and if it's 'permanent', this is a very good question. Also, Is the battery replaceable without voiding warranty?

 

Now, you really striked me again this time XD

I wanted to ask regarding warranty, is it possible to extend global warranty? I realised I can't live with just a year global warranty, hopefully it could be extended to 3 years global warranty.

Can anyone answer this for me?

 

You are better off asking some of the resellers about global warranty. Just send them a PM most would be happy to answer your question.

 

I think you can extend your warranty for one additional year...... see if any of this information is helpful to you:

MSI Warranty Extension Package

Also, Ken has verified that the GT72's battery can be replaced without voiding warranty. Thanks Ken!

 

Thanks for the link! Hopefully it is allowed in my case since I buy from US and I use at Malaysia.

Wow, where is Ken btw? I no longer see his posts, too many things to handle at hand now I suppose?

Well,will battery life span be worse since it is 'permenently' attached to the laptop?

 

Ken is still very much around, however I have been seeing his side-kick, Kevin, a lot more lately.

 

He is receiving special training from nvidia sensei on the new maxwell chips , his customer service power will be over 9000 by the time he is back

 

As long as the connector is identical then it's fine, but you will not benefit from the excessive wattage but capped at 180W.

 

Do we know what panel is being used on the monitor, is it TFT still?