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    Intel 7260?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Aeny, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. NovaTornado

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    Yup. Grabbed the latest driver from station-drivers earlier today. Waiting on card to arrive in a few days now. Current card is a the killer 1202 I think, but the BT is pretty bad. Doesn't work half the time after starting up. Have to reinstall the drivers and reboot a few times to get it to work each time I want to get my bt mouse to work with it. :[
     
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    wifi might interfere with BT, turn off wifi and check if its more stable
     
  3. NovaTornado

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    There seems to be a bug in the driver or I have a dud. After starting up, the Bluetooth function is completely dead, even after disabling/enabling device, till I reinstall drivers and reboot. Have to revert to a very old driver that breaks only when standby, but works after reboot. xD
     
  4. smitty123

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    Are you on win 7 ? have you tried a simple reboot without reinstalling ?

    it's been my experience that win 7 doesn't reconnect wifi by itself when you wake it up from sleep mode. idk about BT i don't use it much on my lappy.

    Windows 8.1 reconnects fine tho. And with start8 (5$) it's just like win 7 imho, plus you get your explorer toolbars back, which we lost in vista&7.
     
  5. NovaTornado

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    Im on WIn 8.1 with all the updates. I feel win 8 is much better then 7 honestly xD I'll see if the new wireless card fixes this issue when it arrives wednesday.
     
  6. smitty123

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    cool

    just remember to remove the old drivers before removing the old hardware. control panel / programs

    intel drivers didn't want to uninstall themselves >>after<< i removed my old intel card.
     
  7. Nayeeef

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    I'm sick of this card, can I swap it the the card of my old laptop? and will the 7260 card work on my old laptop?
    I have y510p .. and this is my old laptop

    HP Support document - HP Support Center
     
  8. downloads

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    Most likely you can't unless you remove white-listing. Both Lenovo and HP are not fans of using hardware that came from someone else.
     
  9. Nayeeef

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    Is it hard\bad to remove this white-listing?
     
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    This might not help either. You can make a non-Lenovo card work in Lenovo laptop if you remove the white list but the card taken out of Lenovo notebook, won't work in a different notebook.
     
  11. Nayeeef

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    there is no way at all to Install lenevo card on hp ? lenevo I hate you :(
     
  12. WhatsThePoint

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    As many people find out after they purchase a new notebook that there's a lot more hardware in it that needs to be researched than just the CPU and GPU.

    I moved to MSI notebooks a few years ago because of the hardware's acceptance of most generic drivers from NVIDIA,AMD,Intel etc with no white listing.

    I find my MSI notebooks very easy to work on and upgrade.

    I had Dell,Toshiba,HP and Lenovo and learned from the bad experiences.

    I'm sure there's others besides MSI.
     
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    words of wisdom my friend, words of widsom.
    what pains me is that I knew about the problems in WiFi and tuchpad but I didn't take them seriously because I thought a good driver would solve the problem, well I thought wrong!
     
  14. Invention

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    So does this WiFi card has a lot of problems then?

    I am planning on purchasing a XMG C404, and University recommends dual band wifi card, so do I get this, or the 3160? Thanks
     
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    Of the two 7260 is the big brother. 3160 is not worth any money. You'd be better off with 6200 than with 3160.
     
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    Other cards they offer are centrinos and aetheros killer but i dont know if those are dual band or not......so i guess i'll go with this card
     
  17. baii

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    Most (i think) have no much problem with the 7260 card.
    Even if you are unlucky, a intel 6200 only cost about 2 cup of coffee.~
     
  18. speculatrix

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    I came late to this thread, so no possibility of wading through 57 pages.

    There's a discussion on Intel forums where someone from Intel is pretending to take interest and ask questions about it, but hasn't admitted there's a real problem. The solution is simply not to use a 7260-AC or 7260-N wifi card.
    https://communities.intel.com/thread/47983?tstart=0
     
  19. cbautis2

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    Those are just people who had bad luck with 7260 on both bands (especially 2.4 GHz). They're not even 1% of 7260 users in the world. I myself have the dual band 7260 which works perfectly on 5 GHz band. No other mini-pcie cards can trump 7260 in 802.11ac throughput.
     
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    yes, it does say that if you have an 11ac access point there's no problem. If the problem is so rare, how come I've had problems with my Dell E7440, my Lenovo T540p, and three colleagues with E7440s. Basically every 7260ac card I've come across in real life?
     
  21. smitty123

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    i have a 7260 with a netgear router r6250 and no drops or disconnections.

    could be just luck or could be good compatibility.
     
  22. speculatrix

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    R6250 has 802.11ac
     
  23. smitty123

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    yep it does.
     
  24. XxxKing YBxxX

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    So this might be a noob question but my laptop has the Intel 7260 ac which is a 2x2 card. I've heard that means that it can run on 2.4 and 5hz simultaneously, but how do I do this? Right now I can only connect to the 5ghz connection or the 2.4ghz one-not both

    Router is netgear r7000 received today
     
  25. smitty123

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    yes it can connect to either 2.4 or 5ghz but not at the same time.

    all wifi is like that.
     
  26. XxxKing YBxxX

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    So what exactly is the difference between 1x1 2x2 3x3 etc?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  27. cbautis2

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    It's the number of antennas that can communicate between 2 devices simultaneously. 1x1 means 1 antenna stream to send and receive. 2x2 means 2 antennas to send and receive simultaneously and so on.

    Doubling the number of antennas = doubling the link rate of connection

    Read more here: How Stuff Works – 802.11n and Spatial Multiplexing | WiFi Jedi.com

    That's why people avoid 1x1 since 2x2 cards is literally twice as fast as 1x1 cards.
     
  28. jasauders

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    A bit late to the game here, but for what it's worth I'm on a Dell XPS 13 (9333) system with the 7260 card. I'm running Ubuntu Linux on it and have been having drop-off's on many LANs. At work on multiple wireless LANs with different gear, at home with my main router, secondary AP, and even a test setup I put together. At first I was suspecting that this was a Linux fluke and the driver was just a headache under Linux, but man, seeing the countless threads of 50+ pages (this one included) and the multitude of Google search results of people complaining about this issue on ANY operating system really puts into perspective just how problematic this card is. It's very disappointing as I've always been a big supporter of Intel and never really had many problems with their gear.

    I do not believe there is a whitelist on this Dell unit, and I personally avoid HP and Lenovo now that I know from first hand experience that they engage in these laughable practices of wireless card whitelisting, but this brings me to another question. Given that the 7260 is an NGFF/M.2 form factor, what sort of comparable 2x2 cards exist in this form factor to swap out? I mean, this issue isn't exactly a week or a month old. It's been going on far too long to even consider waiting around for Intel to brew up a fix. I'd rather work on hardware that works and be done with it. Anybody have any suggestions for an alternative chip that compares to the 7260?

    (also, thanks for the MSI remark - I was unaware that they were more openly transparent. This will likely grant them a new customer, i.e. me, in the near future)
     
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    Sounds like an attractive option on paper, but for the life of me I cannot find the 6235 in M.2 form factor. Eh?
     
  31. Nayeeef

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    I have y510p from lenevo and I want to remove the white listing in order to change the card, I google it and got a lot of results and some of them saying most of the methods online won't work on lenevo product!
    So, can someone help me with a link to a guide that explains how to remove the white listing as easy as possible?
     
  32. speculatrix

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    a good selection of them on ebay.

    I've noticed the some listings specifying small antenna connectors, the pictures show a type of antenna connector I've not seen before. I will pop the base off my Dell E7440 and see exactly what card is inside it.
     
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    I uninstalled this card on a NUC and Dell E6230 in favor of a 6300 and 6235. The 7260 isn't worth the hassle unless it comes with the computer.
     
  34. speculatrix

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    if I can pick up an Intel 6235 for less than equivalent of US$20, I will probably do so. I will then put the 7260 to one side until the problem is fixed... or dump it on ebay.
     
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    Spec. Trust me; You'll have less problems.
     
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    I think i've found some evidence of the new AC card from Killer (Qualcomm)

    - The 'Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1525 Wireless Network Adapter'

    its mentioned in the latest Qualcomm/Atheros Performance Suite Version 1.1.44.1048 on Station-Drivers.com

    We always thought that killer would jump on the AC bandwagon eventually, its good to see some competition to the intel AC 7260. unless it based on an intel card like i heard the last series was :)
     
  37. cbautis2

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    Hopefully the price won't be astronomical ($70 or more) due to having the "killer" name.
     
  38. downloads

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    It wasn't based on Intel. Killer is now a Qualcomm-Atheros brand and they use QCA chips exclusively, so no need to worry about that.

    As for the price it's the same thing- you will be able to buy a card called Atheros ARxxxx that will be identical to what will be sold as Killer (apart from the price-tag).

    While I'm looking forward to this I have to warn you that Atheros' first attempt at 802.11ac - QCA9880-AR1A was so bad that it was impossible to fix it and they simply dropped it (you own one? Sorry.) Luckily for mainstream users ir was used only in routers (it had a mini-PCI connector but was otherwise to wide to fit into the notebook -see here for an image).

    My point is that QCA9880-AR1A is/was so bad even compared to Intel 7260, that I wouldn't want to be an early adopter when they make another attempt.
     
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    I dont know where I got that info from, it made sense because they had the same specs i.e. 3x3 streams with no bluetooth just like the Intel 6300. Anyways what was the name of the no-Killer branded Atheros card? did installing the Killer drivers allow you to regain the 'advanced' functionality again?
     
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    Im considering updating my rtl8723ae , mainly to improve the signal strenght (it also has a 150mbps speed cap). I was considering this card since its the newest one I can find, but then I found this post and I see many people having problems.
    Should I change it for the intel? If not, which other card do you recommend? (signal strenght,stability,latency are the priorities). (I dont want to expend 30€ on a Killer card, I can get this Intel for 11€ ;)
     
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    Nothing less expensive comes close to the performance and wireless range of Intel cards. If you don't need the 802.1ac, get the Intel 6235. Otherwise, get the 7260. Very few people have problems with this card when connected to 2.4 GHz band and almost none have problems when connected to 5 Ghz band. The key to 7260's stability is to connect to 5 GHz band. 2.4 Ghz works but it shows some stability problems on 2.4 Ghz congested areas.
     
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    AR9382/AR5BHB116 , 9380/AR5BHB112 for three stream and two stream respectively. You can force the killer driver on it, but the software probably can't be installed. There is no "advanced functionality imo. Sure, there are a dozen of parameters to change but those are pretty meaningless at a end-user point of view. Intel driver options is just that much better.

    As mentioned before, you can get a intel 6200/6205 , 6230/6235 (for BT) or even 6300 if you router support it. It should improve signal strength consider the realtek single stream n , but I can't tell how much since I never have the realtek card. What router do you have?
     
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    I would be mainly connecting to a 2.4 Ghz router. Wouldnt mind having a modern card just in case I change router.I also thought the newer the card,the better.
    What about INTEL 6250 ADVANCED-N DUAL BAND ? I can get it for like 7€


    The router is a Comtrend VG-8050.
     
  44. cbautis2

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    Intel 6250 should be able to max out the Comtrend modem/router at 300 Mbps link rate. The reason it's cheaper is due to being older than Intel 6205 and 6235. Just to be compatible with newer routers in the future, 6205 and 6235 your best bet since Intel still provides driver updates to those cards while I'm not sure if they still support Intel 6250. Keep in mind that 5 GHz band is needed if you experience intermittent WiFi with your Comtrend router.
     
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    Hi, i have troubles with my Dell vostro 5470 with intel 7260N. I have only 0.3 MBits download speed 2 walls away(6meters). Other notebooks has 5-6Mbits and are stable. I have newest drivers. Dell suport change my wifi antenas, motherboard, wifi card, but always i have problems and unstable conn. Whats the step to get same speed ? Change wifi card ? (Which card is good for dell 5470?) Thanks for reply. MISO
     
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    Getting ready to buy an AC1900 Asus router. Will the 7260 card adapt fine within my NP5160 laptop?
     
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    I'm currently running one in my p150em, so I don't believe you will have any compatibility issues, just make sure you uninstall your previous wireless drivers/software, also remove drivers from device manager.
     
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    Intel 6200\6205 or 6235 (the latter if you need BT) will do fine as a replacement.
     
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    Been using an Intel Wireless-AC 7260 in my Alienware M11xR1 for some months now and the latest Intel drivers seem very stable [for me].
    Mainly use 5GHz (40MHz - 802.11n) but every now and then use 2.4GHz (20MHz) and haven't noticed any problems.
    My 2.4GHz is on channel 13 and only minimal noise from channel 11.

    Don't have an 802.11ac router at the moment and so just paying it forward with the 7260 802.11ac card.

    2.4GHz WiFi connection attached. Very stable at 15m(~45feet)

    [​IMG]
     

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    I would like to buy the Intel Wireless-AC 7260 wifi card to replace the Ralink RT3290 card in my HP ProBook 4340s. Does anybody know if this notebook has a wifi card whitelist? Or will the Intel 7260 work without many problems?
    Thank you for any information.
     
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