6300 should be a 3 wire card, 7260 is only two, that is probably why you lose some signal. 5GHz is good for line of sight, but not real great through walls. I can get 40-50MB/sec with 5GHz line of sight (yes 50 MB/sec ~ 400 Mbps), but go through a couple walls and it drops more than half.
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My house is also all brick and plaster and while it can go through my wood floors just fine it can't penetrate the plaster. Plaster has a metal mesh which can mess up the signal. Outside only 20 feet from my router I only get about 2 bars and 10 mb/s if I'm next to my house.
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New driver out 17.12.0.4 out Station-Drivers. Installing now. Hope its better.
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For me on my MSI GS60 and GT780DX with an AC-7260 installed both notebooks still have the issue of no networks available after coming out of sleep mode just as with the previous driver,version 17.1.0
After a reboot the available networks reappear.
Rolling back to 17.0.6 ....again!
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:\ Works for me, though 17.1 did as well. Noticing no significant differences from 17.1 so far.
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What is your OS ?
maybe it might have something to do with it.
My mother's laptop is an HP , it has Win7 and an Intel Centrino card and it too won't reconnect from sleep until done manually no reboot necessary tho.
In my experience with my GT780DXR, none of the wifi cards in it would reconnect by itself after sleep.
- Intel Centrino 150n card that came with it wouldn't reconnect.
- Killer Networks 1103 card, with both KN's drivers and Qualcomms/Atheros
- Intel 7260 doen't either.
I wonder if win7 itself is the culprit. it was the only OS i used on that laptop.
Either the os is too slow at reconnecting (more than 30 sec we all get impatient) or just doesn't do it ?
All i can say for now is i'm using 8.1 on an Acer Aspire E1 with a Qualcomm Atheros AR956 and it reconnects fine after sleep.
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I using Windows 8 on a Razer Blade 14" 2013. Used to have a killer card, but the bluetooth didn't work very well in that one so I swapped.
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I'm on Windows 8.1 update 2 on both MSI notebooks.
Drivers 17.0.6 all the way back to the 1st 16 series that supported the AC-7260 worked without issues.They only differed in link speed.
Connection issues only started with 17.1.0
If I close the lid putting it in sleep mode and then open the lid there's no white bars or SSIDs when the desktop appears.
Normally I have 5 bars and link speeds between 702 Mbps and 866.7 Mbps
sfc /scannow was clean
500 pings to the router very good
router and card setting OK
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I have sleep issues too with my 7260AC also, Windows 8.1. Coming out of sleep, it doesn't recognize the card. Only with the latest driver, but in general performance is more stable. I have to reboot my machine coming out of sleep to get the card working again. Come on Intel! You can do better.
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So many issues with something you'd think is so simple. Y'all are scaring me to even install and use my AC 7260.
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It's not horrible, but it seems Intel seems to fix one thing and break something else with each driver release. I was happy because performance has become reasonably stable with the last driver for gaming (i.e minimal to no ping drops). But the sleep issues is annoying.
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My take is to install the Intel proset software, using the restart proset option let me keep using the card w.o reboot. But yea, it doesn't really "solve " the problem...
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I've again tried out the 17.12.0.4 driver in both Windows 8.1 Update 2 MSI notebooks with an AC-7260.
Now the old Sandy Bridge GT780DX notebook works after coming out of sleep mode with 5 bars and the normal 702 Mbps to 867 Mbps link speed.
The new GS60 is still having connection issues after coming out of sleep mode.
Why the one notebook has resolved the issue and the other has not is unknown to me.
Both have all the Windows Updates and have been cleaned of old updates using the KUC 8.1 Update Checker.
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Anybody notice this yet?
Amazon.com: Intel Network 7260.HMWG.R Revised WiFi Wireless-AC 7260 H/T Dual Band 2x2 AC+Bluetooth HMC Free Mounting Screws Includd: Computers & Accessories
It states:
"New Revision (for September 1, 2014) of the 7260 AC card 2.4Ghz and 5.xGhz Dual Channel 2 x 2 High Speed B/G/N and AC Band 802.11 Wifi and Bluetooth 4.0"
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I've had some issues with the card not working after sleep. Sometimes it works but sometimes it doesn't. The hardware wireless switch doesn't change anything. If I open up my network adapters and disable and then re-enable it, it works again.
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I apologize if this seems like a foolish question but do I have to download a separate Bluetooth driver package for the Intel Dual Band AC 7260 or are the Bluetooth drivers already bundled with the WiFi driver?clanderson likes this. -
I'm curious what this "revised" adapter is all about too. ??? I hope this card doesn't require a hardware fix. But if it's a solid update, non ping drops, no sleep issues, etc, it'll be worth $30.davidricardo86 and clanderson like this. -
It would be really interesting to see some comparison photos between the two revisions! please make it happen @clanderson
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The difference could even just be a firmware update.
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As I don't have a previous 7260 for reference, I can only provide pictures/stats regarding this "new revision", but I will gladly do so!
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Just returned my 15 day old card and ordered this new one. I had disconnect problems with 5 ghz band and that was a June production. Just have to hope that amazon wont try to ship out old stock since its fulfilled by them.
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On Saturday I received a desktop AC-7260 from Amazon seller with date code 2314.
I'm not going to return it.
Revisions don't always mean better performance.Most of the time it's a manufacturing change to cut production costs.
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How can I check my date code or revision number? I'm curious to know which I have
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"PCB text (date code 4712, Nov. 2012) is silkscreened on the back of the module)
So I gather it to be the 47th week in year 2012
Mine shows 2314 silk screened so I gather it to mean the 23rd week of 2014.(Mid June,2014)
The suffix G and WB denotes the amount of pieces in a bulk pack the card is from...10 to 100 or 1000?
7260.HMW
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260
2.4/5 Ghz 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n Bluetooth 4.0
HMC Form factor (M.2 Format 7260.NGW)
7260.HMW AN
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-N 7260
2.4/5 Ghz 802.11 a/b/g/n Bluetooth 4.0
HMC Form factor (M.2 Format 7260.NGW AN)
7260.HMW NB
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-N 7260
2.4/5 Ghz 802.11 a/b/g/n
HMC Form factor (M.2 Format 7260.NGW NB)
7260.HMW BN
Intel® Wireless-N 7260 Plus Bluetooth
2.4 Ghz 802.11 b/g/n Bluetooth 4.0
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On the rear of the AC-7260 along the bottom edge there's silkscreened numbers
Click on the 'one card' reverse side image and look on the bottom edge of the card right above the pins
In the example on the linked page besides the PB#G83349 there's other numbers;that's the date code 4712
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Here's further proof that there is a new revision of the 7260 card. I stumbled onto this by accident.
The FRU parts list for the Lenovo ThinkPad 11e has 2 7260's listed. Note that these cards are M.2 form factor.
04W3845 - 2 Intel Wilkins Peak 2 7260 2*2 11agn+BT4.0 M.2 Card Indonesia SKU
04X6008 - 2 Intel Wilkins Peak 2 7260 2*2 11agn+BT4.0 M.2 Card Wake# Issue Fix SKU
The second one says "Wake Issue Fix".
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If my AC-7260 in a new MSI GS60 has sleep issue with the new 17.1 and 17.12 drivers but not with 17.0.6 and prior versions I don't think it's a hardware problem.
EDIT:the card I'm having sleep issues with is an
M.2 Format AC-7260NGW
WP2 E10
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Any chance of Intel doing a recall on the "bad" batch? Could it be fixed by firmware and driver updates?
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@clanderson
Yes,that's the date code(1113) in the image.
The 4712 Nov 2012 is the example without image stated at the beginning of the article
@ davidricardo86
I have no information but I'll notify MSI and my reseller of my issue and see what they say.
I advise anyone else with a card that's giving them sleep issues to do the same.
They'll probably say this is the first we're hearing about it.
I don't want to RMA the whole notebook and lose the use of it for weeks just to do a 5 minute job swapping out the card.davidricardo86, Qing Dao and clanderson like this. -
Got the card in today! I was about to post images up but wasn't sure if I should blur anything out as far as S/N's or anything - any help there before I upload?
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In my AC-7260 Advanced Properties my option is a/b/g
Right now I'm using these settings but I'm sometimes trying others
802.11n Channel Width for 2.4Ghz = Auto
802.11n Channel Width for 5.2Ghz = 20Mhz Only
Ad Hoc Channel = 802.11 b/g
Ad Hoc Qos Mode = Disabled
ARP offload for WoWLAN = Disabled
Bluetooth = Enabled
Fat Channel Intolerant = Enabled
GTK rekeying for WoWLAN = Disabled
HT Mode = HT Mode
Mixed Mode Portection = CTS-t-self Enable
NS offload for WoWLAN = Disabled
Packed Coalescing = Disabled
Preffered Band = 5.2Ghz band
Roaming Aggressiveness = Lowest
Sleep on WoWLAN Disconnect = Disabled
Transmit Power = Highest
U-APSD support = Disabled
Wake on Magic Packet = Disabled
Wake on Pattern Match = Disabled
Wireless Mode = 802.11a/b/g
When the notebook with the AC-7260 is paired with a quality AC router and in line of sight with the router at 5' to 10' distance you should get the max 866.7 Mbps.
Further distance and going through walls and floor will almost always lower the link speeds.
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The date code on mine is 2314, so between June 2 and June 8 of 2014.
This seems to be contrary to the "new revision" description.
It's mini pcie.
I can also no longer see my neighbors SSID broadcasts like I could with my Intel 6235 card. But - my mistake - my card does in fact say a/b/g, not b/g/n like I mentioned earlier.
As for my speed, I'm about ~20' from my router, which is on a different floor. I suppose this is the issue.
Are there any reliable ac repeaters?
Also, can I ask you to explain why you have your card set to 20MHz only on the 5GHz band as well as why you have your WoWLAN settings configured the way they are? Learning as I go.
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My setting are set after a lot of experimenting changing one at a time over the course of a few day and comparing performance before and after the change.
The AC-7260 will do little to nothing to change results of speedtest.net and download/upload speed that rely on your ISP and the sites you are connecting to.
The AC-7260 shines in transferring files across your home network.
While I'm showing a link speed of 866.7 Mbps I can transfer a Windows 8.1 ISO file from my desktop to my notebook at an average 45 MB/s and between 2 notebooks
with AC-7260 cards installed at nearly the same speeds.
When not in line of sight and less than 866.7 Mbps transfer speeds will be slower.
Transfer speeds are measured with TeraCopy
Floor are tougher to penetrate than most walls.
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If have have ~ 75+ mbps internet connection and the machine is in medium/end of 5ghz range. AC can help.
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A while back while I was still residing in Korea and had great cheap Internet I did a lot of testing my Internet connections and downloading with an early AC-7260,Killer 1103(3x3),Killer 1102 and a 6230.
The differences I observed were due mostly to time and day and the sites I was connecting to and not the wireless card in use.
The tests were with the same router and settings from the same location in the apartment.
When I changed ISP from LG to SK my Internet speeds all dropped a wee bit.
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I'm not sure you settings are correct on 5.2Ghz = 20Mhz Only
I always thought that 20Mhz is 150Mbps max. 40Mhz is 300 and 80Mhz( believe required for AC) is 866
May be I'm wrong. Also I hope you SSDs in those laptops when you perform your laptop to laptop speed test, otherwise you may have a bottleneck at HD level.
btw which router do you have?
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Yes,I have only SSDs in my notebooks.
The spinners I have are used for external storage
My router is a Netgear R7000
Everyone will need to experiment with the setting to find what works best for them .
Settings I used a few days ago may not be those that I'm using today.
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I'm in my living room about 20' from the R7000 router with 1 sheet rock wall in between
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Yea, real weird. I can also set mine to 20MHz and get "ac speeds". Not sure what's in play there.
Intel 7260?
Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Aeny, Apr 19, 2013.