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    Just upgraded to an Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Nov 5, 2016.

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    hahha! classical! rep added for the awesome phrase!
     
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    @D2 Ultima

    Did you try the TCP Optimizer? I feel my browsing is snappier now
     
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    those disconnect under heavy load.
    I don't think that would help. I have no problems getting my speed or holding a steady connection... what I have a problem with is this:
    [​IMG]

    This is me simply pinging my modem/router (it's one unit). I'm connected by wireless ac as well. I tried using the standalone router connection we have and it didn't make a difference. This card, in itself, seems to have issues holding a stable connection for me.
     
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    how do I run that command? what IP shall I enter coz when I entered yours it gave me an error
     
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    Your default local IP for your router or modem is probably 192.168.1.1
     
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    here is mine with the TCPOptimizer tweaks.........shall I be concerned?

    [​IMG]
     
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    That one 26ms is worrying, and that loss is also worrying. You don't seem to have as bad an issue as I do, however generally pinging a modem with good signal should grant a steady stream of 1ms, maybe some 2ms/3ms thrown in. Anything over 4ms for a strong-signal router ping I would be worried about. I KNOW my sister's 8260ac does not have the jitter problems, neither my 7260ac in my old computer.

    here is me pinging google, for more reference, with a picture of my teamspeak connection's reading my ping and jitter.
    [​IMG]
     
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    sorry it seems like my TCPOptimizer settings were not on......how does this look........

    [​IMG]
     
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    Still shouldn't be having the 48ms/35ms spike, but if your router is busy with a bunch of other devices it makes sense.
     
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    oh I'm in a cafe, around 100 devices connected

    now when back to an image before I ran TCPOptimizer, gonna run a test now
     
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    Right, so my card is somehow not working properly. That's what I assumed.
     
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    or maybe it's the fact that the Windows 8 version of the driver is 3 versions behind. Remember, this card was just released so driver updates are very important

    Also ensure you don't have any apps in the background that may be using any bandwidth when you run the test.

    Finally, what AV are you using? I am using NOD32 so I disable it when running the test as it has an HTTP scanner which I don't want it to affect the test results

    @D2 Ultima

    is this the driver you're using? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...re-and-Drivers-for-Windows-8-1-?product=86068
     
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    Windows is mostly stock (in terms of installed things, anyway). I noted that the driver was far behind, though I was almost to attibute that to W10 needing to be babied with constant updates to fix everything M$ breaks. But I don't know. It's true, the card is extremely new. I should be testing W10 in the near future... if the card works well there and not on 8.1 I might have to go behind Intel for this crap. I REALLY do not want to make W10 my primary OS anytime soon.

    I can guarantee you this problem stems from the card and not the OS or programs running. Especially since my P370SM3 if I boot it now (and shove an external monitor on it so I can actually see something) will have far more things running and far less (which is to say no) problems with latency. That's what's annoying me.

    And yes, that is the driver I was using.
     
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    Try Windows 10 bro......

    NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide

    Windows 10 Tweaks and Fixes (Index post #1)

    End result with Classic Shell.......

    [​IMG]

     
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    I'm going to be dual-booting it probably this week. Either way, I don't want to make it my primary OS. I don't like my crap being reset on update. I don't like having to update things I don't care for. I don't like all the bugs (especially with respect to SLI) that W10's drivers have. Just check nVidia's release notes and see the bugs they've fixed and bugs yet to fix for W10, then scroll down to what's open in W8.1/W7.
     
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    if you use O&O ShutUp 10, you can prevent Microsoft from conducting experiments on your machine, disable all privacy envading stuff, disable Windows updates, etc......

    O&O ShutUp10 - Do not use Windows 10 without it!
     
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    Yes, I know. But you eventually NEED to update, and updates reset things. And drivers can be a real crapshoot with them especially for multigpu

    Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut
     
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    I never had Windows updates reset settings, only a few stuff related to telemetry sometimes which can be fixed by running O&O Shutup 10 and as long as you have the latest drivers, WU won't find and thus won't install any driver updates.

    *** Sent from my coconut smartphone ***
     
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    I disabled WU to stop updating the nvidia drivers to latest versions.
    @D2 Ultima: Have you tried using WIn PE or Linux LiveCD to rule out any hardware issues? Have you disabled uPnP and have you checked if your wifi channel is optimal using wifi analyser app?
     
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    Win PE? I haven't tried any linux; not familiar enough with linux. I haven't checked uPnP or any such thing, however I've been through the QoS options with a fine-toothed comb, and nothing seems to change anything. Not used any wifi analyzer app. I've set it up the same way I've set up wifi on every system I've touched in the last few years and it simply fails to work.
     
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    try this:

    Disable Windows Connection Auto Tuning

    To check values, type the following in an elevated command prompt:

    netsh interface tcp show global


    To disable Window Auto-Tuning:

    netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

    To enable Window Auto-Tuning:

    netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal

    This is for Windows 10 but maybe it works on Windows 8
     
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    No dice. It also has spikes like if it's searching for networks despite WLAN optimizer being used... I'm going to try disabling the "scan when associated" thing in the registry and see if that works.

    Edit: also no dice. It seems this card is doing what it wants. It might be faulty.
     
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    I replaced my Killer 1535 with an Intel 8260. While the WiFi was much better, I noticed a strange problem with the Bluetooth portion. I use my Xbox One controller this way and saw that games were not performing as well as when it was connected to the Killer card or directly via USB.

    For example, in Dishonored, I would get strange stuttering, and the framerate would vary wildly between 70-110 when using the controller wirelessly on the Intel card. Using it over USB pegged the framerate at 130, which is the limit set within the game's configuration files. I put the Killer card back in, and the controller behaved pretty much the same as it did wired. There were a couple very minor drops, but nothing less than 110 fps. Further, after a cold start or reboot, the controller would sync with the Intel card just fine the first time. But after it powered off, it would not reconnect unless I unpaired/re-paired it. I tried a couple different Intel drivers with similar results.

    Believe it or not, I'm going to keep the Killer card because I use the Bluetooth way more often than the WiFi.
     
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    I never had a problem with the Killer Wireless AC-1535 Card when using Windows 7 on it. On Windows 10, it kept cutting off within 5-10 minutes of online gaming.
     
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    Yeap, i was mad, i got an intel 8260, zero problems since, never touched the drivers too..
     
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    Intel Wireless Bluetooth Software v19.40.1702

    Windows 10 = https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...uetooth-Software-for-Windows-10?product=86068

    Windows 8 = no love
     
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    do you want my system pre-requisties folder? it has all that you need to make Windows 10 cool including the old calculator, the Windows update shortcut, removal of the stupid 3D Builder context menu, removable of Cast to device context menu, disable action center, restore old volume slider, etc.....
     
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    *shudders* oh god, there's more than I thought I needed to do. *shudders*

    Let me get it set up and sorted and whatnot and I'll tag you in the windows forum thread, how's that sound? I'll probably get down to installing it this weekend.
     
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    Off topic from where u purchased the card in Dubai ?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
     
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    5 days, I shipped it to my Aramex Shop & Ship virtual address in Hong Kong, then it was auto forwarded to me here in Dubai
     
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    Shipping cost via SnS


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    42 dhs
     
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    Thanks


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    Anytime bro
     
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    Intel® Wireless Bluetooth® Software for Windows 7*
    • Date: 15-Feb-2017
    • Version: 19.40.1702 (Latest)
    • OS: Windows 7, 32-bit*, Windows 7, 64-bit*
    • Description: Recommended for end users. Includes driver and application for Intel® Wireless Bluetooth® Software 19.40.1702 to support Bluetooth® Adapters.
    Intel® Wireless Bluetooth® Software for Windows 8.1*
    • Date: 10-Jan-2017
    • Version: 19.30.1649 (Latest)
    • OS: Windows 8.1, 64-bit*
    • Description: Recommended for end-customers. Includes driver and application for Intel® Wireless Bluetooth® Software 19.30.1649 to support Bluetooth® Adapters.
    Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
    Support information for Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 related to product highlights, featured content, downloads and more.
    https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/w...-series/intel-dual-band-wireless-ac-8265.html
     
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    Define heavy load... I have downloaded and uploaded stuff at the same time, totally maxing out my interwebs connection and Killer was fine...

    Lol generally the Killer card is worse for Bluetooth but its the other way around for you.. Well if it works, keep it :)
     
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    20Mb or more, for many people.

    Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut
     
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    This waa 50/10 Mbps so...

    Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
     
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    Well, for you, sure. But too many other people had issues so I took a safe bet. But my bet turned out to be bad since the new card is bad xD

    Sent from my OnePlus 1 using a coconut
     
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    Mine is the best WLAN card I ever used, why don't you return it for another?

    Sent from my coconut [​IMG]
     
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    Well that is what I had to sort out, but I needed to know that it isn't my fault somehow first.
     
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    Are you on Windows 8.1 or 10 right now? If you are on 10, lemme connect to you and tweak your OS and eliminate all the junk that may be causing connection lags
     
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    8.1, and I'm certain it's the card at this point. I've done everything from registry hacks to WLAN optimizer. I'll probably install W10 tomorrow and check it out. You got a bare driver download for the newest drivers for the card, so I can toss it on a second drive in preparation?

    Gah I probs have to buy Start 10, I don't think Start 8 cross-licenses.
     
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    INF only drivers......

    LAN Killer e2400 Driver v9.0.0.42

    Intel Wireless Driver WLAN v19.30.0 / BT v19.40.1702

    StartIsBack has an issue which I've reported to the developers ages ago and he refuses to fix it.


    You see, with Windows 7, let's say you launch a program, CCleaner for example......


    That program will now appear in the start menu on the left pane frequently used programs......


    If you right click on it and choose remove from list, it won't show again, but if you launched it a few times again, it will show up again in the list which is how the start menu should work. It should show you the frequently access programs in the list on the left.


    Now, with StartIsBack, if you remove a program from the list thinking maybe you won't need it there to show up as you aren't going to use it often, but later start using it more, it will never populate in that frequently accessed programs, it's gone........forever....you have to manually hunt for it from the Start Menu.


    Classic shell works exactly like the Windows 7 start menu, it will re-add a program if you removed it from the list after you have run it a few times. Classic Shell is basically, the Windows 7 start menu ripped from Windows 7 and move to Windows 10 :)


    Here is my XML settings file if you want the start menu to look exactly like Windows 7 but with the PC Settings shortcut in there for ease of access: Download Phoenix Classic Shell XML Settings


    My Windows 10 Desktop:

    [​IMG]


    Once you have Windows 10 installed, feel free to tag me so I can set it up for you and get rid of all the junk and disable the privacy invasion stuff.

    This free session of TeamViewer will be sponsored by the Coconut Company
     
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