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    $949.99 HP ENVY 15 with Core i5 and 1080P

    Discussion in 'Notebook and Tech Bargains' started by mrPico, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    it is quite possible that the 5830 for the i7 is actually clocked lower or programmed for a different heat setting than the i5.


    you didnt hear it from me ask the owners but following logic that is why there are two versions. the i7 is very hot, turn down the 5830.
     
  2. ajreynol

    ajreynol Notebook Virtuoso

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    ^ no, the 2 processors have different chipsets entirely.

    the i7-based chipset will give you USB 3.0.

    :)

    in for 1.
     
  3. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Not completely different chipsets. They still both use the PM55. I'm not sure about the major difference between the two, but I do seem to remember someone trying to put an i7 in an i5 Envy and it not working. Not entirely sure why.
     
  4. mdsniper7

    mdsniper7 Notebook Evangelist

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    can hp change the specs on a lappy if I call and ask to change something my order staus says dropped to factory.
     
  5. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    actaully i7 worked on an i5 setup. I was trying to put an early es i7 and it did not work. That cpu does not work with many computers anyways.
     
  6. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    Woohoo. Join the club!
     
  7. Cujo11

    Cujo11 Notebook Enthusiast

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    btw anyone knows how long does this deal last? :) im considering Envy 13, but still waiting for asus UL30JT :(
    // edit : so it expires on 4th april, too bad :/
     
  8. vengance_01

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    The envy 13 is just not worth it. To much money for older ULV Core 2 based products.
     
  9. mrPico

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    Argh to jump on this or to wait a bit longer and get a 15mx from Alienware.... Always been a desktop gamer, but am looking to get a laptop finally, and there are so many choices it's almost daunting. I don't plan to play things like Crysis or anything... and I'm assuming this would run games like Mass Effect 2, MW2, etc just fine... hrm.

    Is this one of those, "too good to pass up" type deals? I was looking at quite a few systems (11Mx, 15Mx, Asus G72 & G73, etc) but HP never really entered my mind so i'm not too familiar with this lappy.
     
  11. mrPico

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    This laptop is the best mix for portability/power/battery life. If you want a balanced laptop with these features in mind, this is the one you are looking for. Remember... this model does not have an optical drive. Intel Core i7 in this model is having heat issues.
     
  12. Pitabred

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    It's a hell of a deal on the machine. The question is, do you want what the Envy provides? It's not a "gamer" machine, but it plays games quite well. I play L4D2 online at 1920x1080, highest on all settings except 2xMSAA and 2xAF. It'll do 60fps in normal scenes (limited at that by vsync), drop to maybe 30 in very heavy firefights. The m15X will be faster, but it's going to weigh more, run hotter and have a much lower battery life as well as having all the Alienware gaudy bits.
     
  13. vengance_01

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    I agree this thing hands down over the Alienware. More balanced. Plus the coupon makes it a steal!
     
  14. Blaine_Shadowrider

    Blaine_Shadowrider Notebook Guru

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    I would agree on all counts except 2, the current alienware generation of laptops does not run hot and is in fact known for great cooling, and second if by "as having all the Alienware gaudy bits." It looks pretty good to me especially the keyboard lighting and whatnot, but that's a matter of opinion.
     
  15. LE25

    LE25 Notebook Consultant

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    whats the recovery disc for?
     
  16. mrPico

    mrPico Notebook Deity

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    Restoring your laptop to the state like how it was at first. It's a reinstall of your whole windows and with all the stock bloatware that the laptop comes with.
     
  17. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    They may have great cooling, but the 360m is still a 40W card, where the 5830 is a 24W. It will eat a lot of battery, and need more cooling and therefore be heavier. The Envy is not a gamer machine. It's a slick, portable, good-looking machine that just happens to be pretty good at playing games. The difference is your priorities.
     
  18. mdsniper7

    mdsniper7 Notebook Evangelist

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    pita u scare me sometimes, I have a envy on order and I got it cause its sexy as hell but also good for school and I heard it is good at games to, u worry me when u say its not a gaming machine.
     
  19. mrPico

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    The ENVY 15 is not a gaming machine. It is a portable powerhouse. By that he means for the same price range or higher, you can get more powerful laptops that can game better than the ENVY. You will sacrifice portability and battery life though. The ENVY is powerful. Just not the most powerful. It can still game really well. This is a good balanced laptop.

    Oh yeah.. and it's sexy too so you don't have to bring a gaming machine with all the graphics on the case to class. And you won't be carrying a brick either.
     
  20. threeply

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    The Envy is more of a Multimedia powerhouse machine than a gaming machine. It so happens to have a decent gaming gfx card that can play todays games and also tomorrows DX11 games albeit at lower frame rates.

    With a bit of overclocking the gfx card really comes to life.

    If you are a memory hog than the i7 quad model is the only way to go because it has 4 memory slots instead of 2 or else the better value is the core i5.

    The Asus is a nice model with the GTS 360M and GDDR5 which should outperform the ATI 5830 but it won't do DX11 games and it won't help your battery life either.

    My 2 cents
     
  21. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    Actually 5830 performs as good as a 360m gts even with the gddr5
     
  22. mdsniper7

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    will the 5830 do dx11 i wanted the i7 to but 400 holy cow
     
  23. alitunay

    alitunay Power Seller

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    they are charging $400 for i7 upgrade+usb 3.0+ 4ram slots
     
  24. sleey0

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    The Envy is defintieyl an awesome system.

    I just wish it had a better screen as that was the reason I got rid of mine.

    Maybe they can bring that radiance screen or a dreamcolor to the Envy 15. Then I would get one, for sure.
     
  25. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I have sworn off chiclet keyboards so that will keep me with either Dell and lenovo for my next purchase.
     
  26. Romo 2 Austin

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    ordered one:
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-430M Dual Core processor (2.26GHz, 3MB L2 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.53GHz
    4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5830 Graphics - For i5 and i7-620M Processors
    15.6" diagonal Full High Definition LED HP Ultra Brightview Widescreen Display (1920x1080)
    Webcam Only
    Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
    HP QuickWeb, Corel VideoStudio Pro X2, Corel Paintshop Pro X2, Stardock My Colors
    HP Color Matching Keyboard
    Extra 6 Cell Lithium Ion Polymer Battery
    No Productivity Software
    HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope



    with 1 year completecare came to $1287.87
     
  27. sleey0

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    So you didn't go for it I assume?

    Actually, I absolutely love the chicklet keyboard on my wife's Z520. Fantastic keyboard.

    Are you just uncomfortable with checklet keyboards?
     
  28. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    They just don't mesh with my typing style.
     
  29. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Notebook Evangelist

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    It's a fine laptop for games. Like Pita said, it's about your priorities. I want a laptop that will play games well and the Envy will do it. The cost and benefit of going with something like the Alienware m15 isn't worth it for me -- not the weight, not the battery life, and certainly not the design. But if my #1 usage was for games, it'd be a different song.

    I think most people who get the Envy like the multi-purpose aspect of it -- it's really good at a lot of things even if it won't take best in class for any one thing. The people who have been disappointed with it typically haven't been disappointed by its performance, either, but by HP-related things like build or support or the trackpad, et cetera.
     
  30. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Will an i7 920xm work in the i7 model?I am thinking about buying an oem 920xm. I do not care if it generates more heat :eek:
     
  31. sleey0

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    I would ask that question in the Envy thread, rengsey.

    I am thinking that it will work as long as you buy one of the quad core models. I know someone tried putting in an 820 in a system that shipped with the i5 motherboard and it didn't work.

    Pretty crappy on HP's part to lock out the quads even though it is capable of running them.
     
  32. khaledseif

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    How is battery life?
     
  33. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Thanks Mr. RMA :eek:
     
  34. alitunay

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    I was the one who tried to put an ES 820qm which did not work but an oem one did work on an i5 model so. YES, i7 CPU DOES work on i5 setup.
     
  35. Mandrake

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    I wonder is the memory controller in those ES procs are somehow different causing issues with compatibility. That's the biggest difference between i7 ES procs and C2D ES procs.
     
  36. alitunay

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    looks like that. I am using OEM from now on unless somebody comes up with a decent ES CPU.
     
  37. ozu

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    As expected, Denied.

     
  38. roonow

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    Why oh why don't they offer a 1600x900 resolution screen? I'd be all over this if they did :(.
     
  39. kreidel

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    It looks like this deal is over.
     
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    Maybe it was just a bad ES chip?

    You try it in any other systems?
     
  41. void42

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    I'm so angry I missed this deal. I was just about to buy one.
     
  42. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    What is the main difference between an Envy 15 and Envy 15 Beat Edition. I know the coesmetic is different (Color looks darker) , the headset and audioi hardware and software comes with it....anything else ?

    I like the darker look of the Envy of the Beat Edition.
     
  43. alitunay

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    as far as I know even the audio hardware is the same. Besides that everything else is the same.
     
  44. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Thanks for a quick reply. Seems like you hang out in the discount and bargains really often Alitunay. :)
     
  45. Aquitaine

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    The 'beats' edition comes with headphones and (I think?) a subwoofer in the case or else an external one? Does anyone want to confirm that?

    It's mostly marketing, though. They throw in $75 worth of stuff and charge $800 for it. I like the black case, too, but not for $800.
     
  46. Blaine_Shadowrider

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    Well I don't know about the subwoofer but the beats studio headphones retail for about 300, so I'd guess it's maybe 500 worth and the rest is just cosmetic. I also believe you get some DJ or Audio software as well so it's not quite as big a ripoff. Although for me it'd just be for the look and the headphones so I can't say I'd pay the extra for it.
     
  47. Aquitaine

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    Whatever they retail for, the headphones aren't worth $300.
     
  48. ajreynol

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    Beats are terrible headphones. I laugh at people that buy them.
     
  49. s0ysauce45

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    Yeah, they're expensive because of the marketing put into them. Go over to head-fi.org and 15 minutes of research will save you hundreds :)
     
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