HP Pavilion dm1z Review Discussion

I think Acer was probably displeased with it not working on the laptop screen or something like that. Acer may have messed something up on the port who knows.

Maybe TomsHW wasnt allowed to compare it to the Intel D525/ION2, because maybe Nvidia or Intel or Asus told them they couldnt. I am pretty sure if TomsHW could find a way to make a new AMD product look irrelevant or put it in its "budget" place they would. They all usually try hard at that.

 

Hi, does anybody know when is the Lenovo x120e going to be released?

 

The beginning of February. Link.

 

anyone else have their order delayed mine was suppose to ship on the 19th?

 

Is there any pics showing the guts? Would be quite interested in seeing what makes this awesome laptop tick.

 

My order wasnt supposed to ship until the 26th so I guess I wont know if its delayed for a while, there may be more in the DMz1 owners thread

 

I decided against the 1830T. Cost + IGP finally pushed it away for the time being.

Right now, the X120E is the top contender to replace the dead, house Thinkpad X24 that finally died after 8yrs of faithful service and up to its end, was still surfing like a champ and playing silverlight plug in video full screen.

 

Mine was supposed to ship yesterday (the 19th) but I got an email saying it's delayed until the 21st (tomorrow). Patiently waiting for now. 2 days won't kill me I guess. More than that and I'll start to get antsy.

 

The only problem with the X120E is the standard battery is a 3 cell and its the only one that will sit flush. To get the battery life of the dm1 you will have to get the extended battery and that sticks out on the back. The speakers will also take a second seat to the DM1 which is basically top of class. But the X120E has the matte screen which is plus for many people. It will be interesting to see if the Lenovo will be similarly priced with the same like options. Will it offer 6 cell battery, 3 gigs of ram and BT and 320GB 7200 HD standard for 425 dollars (with coupon) before taxes? I doubt it. HP usually squeezes a few more upgrades then its competitors and still keep the price point the same or below. Sure Lenovo may have great build quality but every reviewer is saying the same for the DM1 and that it has a great keyboard with good feel and dept with no flex. Also HP did quite well in the thermals being the dm1 basically stays at room temperature. Just thought you might want to know this being that many of the things that lenovo is known for (keyboard and build quality) are also traits of the DM1.

I have to add the X120E also has a spill resistant keyboard I believe. It was a hard choice for me as well. But I think the generous upgrades that HP threw in and the speakers are what did it for me. Nevertheless, Lenovo is going to sell a ton of these.

 

It's a toss between the X120E//DM1Z for me, mainly because being a previous Thinkpad owner I LOVE the Trackpoint/keyboards, but the aesthetics of the dm1z are very appealing. Decisions decisions...

 

That is a hard choice. I also have a thinkpad and a DM3z, and the x120e is very appealing, very simplified aesthetics which I actually like, the matte screen and the separate trackpad buttons might make it more appealing than the DM1z to many. For business laptop X120e would be my call, but if gaming or movies or style are your thing you might like the DM1z screen and case.

In my T400 the 6cell sits flush, but I have two 9 cell batteries, and although the 9 cell that sticks straight out is very annoying, the one that angle up at like 45 degrees is not bad, so if the 6 cell option for the X120e is bent up then I would not shy away from it.

 

For me, I prefer the Spartan like aesthetics of the Thinkpad line (probably why I also love Dell's Business line). I also prefer matte screens. Glossy is not a deal breaker, but if given a choice, I definitely lean towards matte/anti-glare.

Like Acaurora, a lot of leaning comes from previous positive use of Thinkpad laptops (X,T and A series) and the keyboard/TP.

 

Someone can confirm if in the review someone checked WOW was or not running on DX11??? considering its sub-1215N performance is was running on DX11.

 

I am definitely impressed with what the DM1z brings to the table. The ONLY reason I'm waiting is because I want to see what Lenovo is offering and how much more it will cost to get a matte screen.

 

The small Vaio is interesting as well if it comes in within 50$ or so of the lenovo and HP.

So far the HP seems to be getting the best reception for battery life etc over the Sony and Lenovo options.

Sadly, it could be another month or even 2 before we see the HP DM1z refresh in the UK, and no real word from the other vendors yet:/

 

Thinkpad Edge 13 with AMD Fusion would be an ideal choice for me. I take my laptop every day with me and I don't need any significant horsepower at home (since all I do at home is watch movies, surf web, play some occasional games from Humble Indie Bundle, etc). I currently use a 12 inch machine as my only computer (apart from my work computer), and I would go for 13 inch, since it's more comfortable, but battery life is an important point for me.

 

I was wondering if you guys have a view of how would this dm1z and/or the forthcoming thinkpad x200e would compare to a machine like the Portege R705-P35.

I dont consider myself a heavy consumer of graphics, besides as a by-product of office work (word, excel, etc) and the occasional photo album; and what attracts me to the Portege is that its i3 chip, can handle 4 threads at the same time, versus the two threads that E-350 can handle (correct?).

 

The i3 does have hyperthreading, so if you have a program that effectively uses it then it can be an advantage. A lot of programs do not, and I dont know that it would be any better at simple office work, like opening and editing powerpoint or excel files. photo editing may take advantage of the hyperthreading. If any of the photo work can be handled by the GPU then the AMD solution may be as good with the closely coupled APU's cpu/gpu and steam technology that many photo/video software makers take advantage of.

The Portege also costs a few hundred more dollars as a full fledged notebook with same resolution on a larger screen.

 

I'm taking that jdr is comparing them because both are in the same weight class.

 

@coldmack, you are right, i am trying to move from a toshiba netbook nb205 atom n280, that turned too slow it almost became useless;

now I am in the market for something close in weight. the nb205 is 2.8 pounds, so I am looking around 3 pounds. I figured the cpu is the main drag in the toshiba netbook so i am particularly interested in getting as good cpu as i can afford -I will say the portege's $750 is clearly the upper bound

 

Just a quick update I thought I'd share.

I spoke to HP today and was told that there are no more delays and that orders due to be shipped 1/21 and prior should be receiving a FedEX shipping e-mail by tomorrow morning (Sunday 1/23).

So, for whatever that's worth...

 

I'm very intrigued by zacate's performance, but honestly the lack of USB 3.0 on this model makes me have to pass on it. I really like the temperatures though. Perhaps AMD has finally turned things around.

 

Does anyone wonder if maybe the problem with no USB 3.0 on these chipsets involve the increased power requirements of USB 3.0? I seem to recall reading that a USB 3.0 port needs to be able to output 50%-80% more power at max compared to a USB 2.0 port.

 

USB3.0 probably cost a lot more to implement, since it has more parallel channels and link power management and what not. More complexity is more cost. And not everyone cares about the extra bandwidth, to make it part of the purchase decision.

 

Well, the problem is that Intel has not put usb 3 in its chip sets yet and probably won't until 2012. The models that do include it are from a third party (NEC) and other vendors. It cost more to put those ports in. Intel, by the way, has their own technology that would replace USB 3, or so they would like (light peak). I think COST, on a budget system like the dm1 is likely why its not included.

At any rate, USB 3 is more efficient anyway since it only polls the device when its being used. So if your not using that port, it actually takes less power then usb 2. I don't see any reason why the dm1 would not have it except that it would drive up the costs to lets say 470 dollars instead of 449. And this model's price point is a huge draw for many.

 

Anyone get there DM1 yet?

 

They are in the mail

 

I am a bit confused, how does AMD Fusion, compares to Intel Second Generation Core (Sandy Bridge)? are they conceptually the same in the sense of integrating the GPU inside the same silicon as the CPU?

I am asking, because I am considering whether to buy a laptop like this one (or the very near Thinkpad X120e) or to wait for the basic Sandy Bridge (say, Core i3-2310M) chip.

 

Conceptually the same, but very different in terms of performance and market segment.

The current line of AMD Fusion CPUs are designed to compete with Atom based netbooks. The current Intel CULV, whether core 2 duo, or i3 based will mop the floor with Fusion in terms of CPU performance, but GPU would be weaker than AMD.

 

Anyone know if the HDD and RAM slots on the dm1z are user accessible?

 

Yeah, you can remove the whole bottom cover off and have access to RAM, HDD etc.

The service manual for the new DM1z is up and details the complete teardown process...
http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c02666702/c02666702.pdf

 

Thanks. Puts it one step above the Dell m101z already.

 

You forgot the 101z is still using the last generation AMD Nile processor K325. Its about the same performance but it will take more power and generate more heat. Dell needs to get on the ball and release a fusion model.

 

The real low power Intel core 2 stuff still isnt much better CPU wise than this dual core 1.6Ghz fusion cpu. And many people may find that the AMD systems are more responsive in Windows and opening programs and such than the low powered Intel processors that get better benchmarks in programs. If video editing is required of a ultraportable without discrete graphics then the Intel Sandy Bridge models will have advantage due to its dedicated encoding/decoding hardware. But if thats not something important I dont see any reason you would need more than this E350 Zacate in an ultraportable.

 

Well, my Dm1 is in Albuquerque. I'm thinking it will be delivered today.

 

Cool. Mine is unfortunately way off and the semester starts soon. I'm getting one for use as my main laptop for who knows how long. After you get it could you take some candid snaps, show how it looks in the real world? Maybe give us a little blurb about it.

I'm thinking about cancelling and getting a basic Dell if this isn't as good as the reviews say. Plus I only just realised it has a tacky chain-linked circle pattern on it.

Hope it arrives.

 

In the summer dual and quad core Fusion called "Llano" will be launching that will be more on the level of Core i3-2310M.

 

When did you order yours?

 

That be an interesting one, a low powered quad-core 12in notebook. Will it have the same gpu as this, or will we see dedicated gpu options?

 

See here.

 

I have just read the link above concerning Llano APUs. So, are they coming in the Q2 of 2011? What form-factor do they aim for? How about 13 inch ultraportables? If so, what about power consumption?

 

According to Wikipedia, they should have 25W+ of power consumption. Doesn't look too fit for ultraportables. I guess, I'll just try and wait for Lenovo or HP 13 incher with Zacate.

 

Jan 9. Update, its on truck and Fed-x says will be here by 4:30

 

Let us know how it goes, I am sure you will be ripping the package open like a kid on Christmas. Someone reported on another forum that theirs was dead on arrival. Even so that does not dissuade me from eagerly wanting this machine!

Update: System was not dead on arrival, it just needed a hard reset.

 

I received mine. Its GREAT!. I posted some open box pics in the HP forum.. under pavilion forum/dm1 threat:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/501683-hp-dm1z-22.html

 

Is it a worthy upgrade to my 2 year old dv2 Amd Neo-V?

 

DV2... heck yeah. Faster, cooler and longer battery life.. thats allot.

 

Got mine - sweet!

(Ordered on 9th Jan.)

 

You played any games on it yet?

 

@ Womp

I haven't even caressed it lovingly yet It's sitting at my concierge's desk -- I'll get it as soon as I'm done with work/gym. Was just posting to let people know that the shipments have started arriving.