Preliminary Info on NEW Compal IFL90 / IFL91 / IFT01 / IFT00

The closest Asus has to the A8JS, is the Asus A8SC-A1 which is 14" 1280x800 / T7100 1.8GHz / 8400M 128MB Video / 1GB Ram / 160GB 5400RPM

I am sure they will eventually have something with the 8600GT

 

Would this void any warranties? Only overclocking enough to get "stock" speeds?

 

Unless you burned something up (which, according to others here, shouldn't happen), how would they know that up "overclocked" (is it actually overclocking when you're just countering .. underclocking?)

 

Overclocking will generally not void your warranty (but check with your individual reseller first to make absolutely sure before doing so), but if you were to fry your GPU due to overclocking--that would not be covered by your warranty.

 

Does anyone know (Justin maybe?) what screen resolution will be available for the IFL 90? I seem to be finding 2 different stories: 1680 px or 1440 px... Are the screens set to be released only as glossy?

 

The information we have right now shows a WXGA Glossy (1280x800) and a Glossy WSXGA+ (1680x1050). From what we know right now it appears to be only Glossy that will be available.

 

What is the difference between WSXGA and WSXGA+???

 

The "+" refers to the screen resolution. The WSXGA + will get 1680x1050 where the WSXGA standard will get 1440x1050 i think?

(I didn't mention the + above, i will correct my post)

 

Confusing, but WXGA+ is 1440x900, WXGA is 1280x800 (or 768), WSXGA+ is 1680x1050.

WSXGA would probably be 1680x1024 (the widescreen version of 1280x1024) but I have never seen this resolution produced.

Bye the way, Wikipedia is slightly wrong on this in that that article calls WSXGA 1680x1050 when that resolution is actually WSXGA+...they just left the + off.

 

Any chance these models end up with a multibay?

 

I remember a time when almost all notebooks were blessed with atleast one multibay, or the ultra-portables that had those "media base" things that held all the extra goodies and turned your notebook into a full 2-3 spindle machine...

Ahh.. those were the days... *dreams*

EDIT: I'd love to see a Compaq M300 system with modern gear... hard alloy chassis... half inch thick without the media base, extended battery gave about 5 hours with everything running...

Media base had two multibays, one 3.5" that took battery (8-10 hours total) / floppy / zip / ls120 / hd / tv tuner... and a 5.25" that took dvd / cdrom / cdrw / combo drive... also had stereo speakers with a bass channel... this was an awesome gaming solution while home, but for work I could take the thin top chunk.. Was my favorite system for a few years..

Just need to get one of these with a modern chipset and discreet graphics... *drools*

 

LOL, my first laptop had a hot-swap bay. I thought it was awesome with Zip Drive/Floppy/DVD options. I think I could swap batteries too without having to shut down too, but I could be mistaken about that.

Those were pretty awesome features, I agree.

I also agree that the screen resolution names/titles can be somewhat confusing. Just remember the "+" at the end when discussing WSXGA+--but it's even more important at the end of WXGA.

 

I do what I can to avoid the names, and just go by the #x# dimensions.. =P No confusion then

 

We just received a sample FL90 unit from a close friend at Compal. We will do some extensive testing and hopefully have some detailed information for you all prior to the release. As for a first impression, the unit is absolutely beautiful and is a huge improvement over the HEL80. Stay tuned!

 

That is great, I will wait for your results of testing, by the way, is this IFL-90 equipped with 8600M GT or GS? I saw one of the first reviews and there was GS model of 8600M (huge disappointment for me)...
http://notebook.cz/__/,clanky,technologie,2007,nvidia-geforce-8600m,index.html

"...my už jsme měli možnost otestovat zmíněný předprodukční vzorek VBI Compal IFL-90. Ten v sobě skrýval Core2 Duo T7300 (2,0 GHz) a 1 GB RAM. Tím nejzajímavějším však byl slot osazený grafickou kartou GeForce 8600M GS s 256 MB vlastní paměti..."

translation in english

"...we have had the possibility to test pre-production VBI Compal IFL-90. It had Core2 Duo T7300 (2,0 GHz) and 1 GB RAM inside. The most interesting part was the graphic card GeForce 8600M GS with 256 MB dedicated memory..."

I am scared...with only GS model...

 

hello, in italy are compal IFT00 and compal IFL90 with brand Santech.

Compal IFL90 is branded Santech X3610 / x3620

http://www.santech.it/notebook/x3610.htm
http://www.santech.it/notebook/x3620.htm

Compal IFT00 is branded Santech V3510 /V3520

http://www.santech.it/notebook/V3510.htm
http://www.santech.it/notebook/V3520.htm

for price list:
http://www.santech.it/listino.htm


The series T, is based on asus S37s

 

A lot of different news on the IFT00 GPU:

I guess it's possible that Compal is shipping different GPUs to Italy, US, etc? I hope it's a 8600GT...but the 8400GT benchmarks may not be too bad either once they turn up.

 

I thought that second quote was for when Justin was talking about the IFL90.

Well at least the 8400gt would be better than a GMA card.
Tim

 

What is this "Intel GMA X3100" you speak of?
What are the specs? How is it related to "Intel GM965/GL960"?
How would it compare to the current nVidia Go 7600 in the HEL80?
If it has 75% the power of the 7600, and it's in a Compal with a 1680x1050 screen, and it saves some battery with respect to those monstrous cards with 512MB, then it could be perfect....

There's a good comparison chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA
Although I cannot guarantee the authority of wikipedia

Also I've found this review http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tests/notebooks/79788/index10.html
I don't understand German but I can understand the chart hehe

 

The GMA is a shared video card. Meaning it pulls from your system Ram and it doesnt have any dedicated ram onboard. It is much less in power compared to the 7600 which has 256MB dedicated RAM. The models that have this shared type of graphics card rarely (if ever) come with a high resolution WSXGA. These type of screens are normally only used with dedicated graphics cards.

For example, a Intel GMA900 (shared graphics card) scores 900 3D Mark 03 while a 7600 256MB scores 7800

 

The 7600 is a lot more powerful. A lot (about 12 times more powerful).

 

Umm...I think I am confused. So do we know which graphics card will be in the IFL00? Is it going to be the 8600gs or the 8400gt.
Tim

 

It's possible that IFL00's from different parts of the world will get different video cards.

 

That doesn't help any...

So in the US it will probably have the 8600gs?
Tim

 

OK, I didn't explain myself
Of course I know the GMA series are integrated cards with shared memory!
I wanted to know how this "GMA X3100" (which I haven't heard of and seems to be in the European model) is related to the "GM965/GL960" announced by XoticPC and other places. (Is it the same thing? Is it related? Better, worse?)

Then I wanted to know how it would compare to the 7600. You tell me about the GMA900 which, I think, is like two generations older than the 965/960.

Also, my old (4+ years) Sager 4020 came with a flimsy integrated S3 650M and i had a superb 1400x1050 resolution and it played DirectX and OpenGL Blender 3D, etc., of the time just fine (with 32 to 64MB of shared memory)
Even with dual monitors!

So, I could hope that these new Intel chipsets with as much as 256 shared memory and 4 or 5 years newer could be pretty satisfactory for high resolutions and light 3D (Vista, Compiz/Beryl, Solitaire). Of course I don't expect it to be as good as an nVidia 7600... But the 7600 is already a little overkill for my needs... and these newer ones with 512MB and a gazillion pipelines and polygons per microsecond are like disgustingly and obnoxiously *too much*.

Problem is, they think that because one chooses the integrated GPU, then one doesn't need more than WXGA which is certainly not true. I'm a programmer and I want to see as much text on the screen as I can, with good definition and antialiased fonts.


FREN says: "The 7600 is a lot more powerful. A lot (about 12 times more powerful).'

You mean the 7600 is 12 times more powerful than the X3100 or the 965? Or are they one and the same? Maybe even 12 times less powerful is powerful enough for my needs... Maybe there should be something *in between*.
But the industry seems to have only two targets: a) big monstrous GPU's or b) tiny little integrated ones. (And we could add that the big monstrous of last year are considered by the geeks as pieces of @#$#@$# in the same category as (b))

enough ranting

 

Well "965" is the chipset that Intel uses, whereas "GMA X3100" is the graphics card that is used by that chipset. I'm talking about the GMA950. The Go 7600 will still be many times more powerful than the X3100, however. The X3100, no matter how advanced of an integrated graphics card it is, is still an integrated graphics card with about the same power as a Radeon X300.

According to Justin's site it should have the 8600M GS, and the IFT90 should have the 8600M GT. Let's hope Justin is right

 

Ok I did a little more research and it seems that the integrarted versions (IFL91 and IFT01) now seem to be using the Intel X3100. Maybe the GM965/GL960 were the specs of the pre-releases?
Also I've read that the X3100 is *much* better than the older ones but it's very new so this is only in paper I guess. I haven't seen real and good benchmarks.

Now, if they only had a good screen resolution...

There's a good comparison chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA
Although I cannot guarantee the authority of wikipedia

Also I've found this review http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-...8/index10.html
I don't understand German but I can understand the chart hehe

 

On Andrew's Thinkpad T61, with a Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 Ghz and an Intel GMA X3100, he got about a 900 in 3DMark05. There's an actual benchmark.

 

Eh, but 900 on 05 isn't anything to write home about.

 

It's enough to play a game like Half-Life 2 or CS:S at higher settings at comfortable FPS. It's several times as powerful as the old GMA950, which played CSS and HL2 fine.

 

Hmm the previous url got truncated in the middle... let's try again

http://www.pcwelt.de/tests/hardware-tests/notebooks/79788/index10.html

ok now it looks truncated but the links works

so in the chart you can see 503 under 3DMark 06, versus 223 for the GMA950
The performance is a little under the nvidia geforce go 7300 which a couple of years ago was considered quite a decent gpu

now, since I don't know much about gpu 3D benchmarks and stuff I can't tell much more, but the colored chart looks pretty

 

Hi new here..
I did some research allready so dont want to ask dumb questions. In your opinion why would I choose Compal IFL90 over a Zepto 6625WD?

edit: I thik Ive post in the wrong topic here...must be better in " What to buy.."

 

I thought the Zepto was a IFT00

 

I had heard that, too. Well, what I precisely heard was that the whole Znote line was built on Compal models...

But I don't think that is the case with the IFT00/Znote 6224W--because the IFT00 has an integrated fingerprint reader and the 6224W does not(I'm sure there are other differences, also), and integrated fingerprint readers are something ODM models would ship with(I think??). I sent an email to some contact address from the Zepto website addressing this--but I didn't get a reply. I took that to mean I was right. =p

 

link to IFL90 specs
link to 6625WD specs

Quite a dilemma, indeed... The specs are very similar--the only noteworthy differences in my opinion would be the fingerprint reader on the IFL90, and the maximum 12cell battery available for the 6625WD(compared to 9cell maximum available for IFL90). Otherwise--yeah, they're identical.

However, this just means you look at other things like build quality, heat, noise, keyboard flex--which you won't find until more people get their hands on these laptops. =p I'm sorry I don't have any substantial difference to point out between the two yet, but there's no reviews up for either of them =p

You could also try looking at the predecessors Znote 6615WD and Compal HEL80--but extrapolation may not be relevant/accurate... One con several people reported about the HEL80 was that the GPU had been underclocked--that may or may not be true about the IFL90, but it should be easy to fix, and may or may not be an issue to you. I probably wouldn't find that difference very significant myself. Otherwise, every review I read raved about how happy they were their 6615WD or HEL80--so again, extrapolation wouldn't help resolve your dilemma, anyway...they're still identical, haha.

Although, one advantage to the Compal could be where you buy it. A lot of people on this site have been very pleased with their business with places like XoticPC and MilestonePC et al., and maybe that's something you should consider. On the other hand, you can only order the Zepto brand from Zepto =p
Note: I'm not familiar with Zepto's service whatsoever, so please investigate yourself to see which seller you would prefer.. There are a lot of sellers that post here--and off the top of my head I can think of Justin@XoticPC, Paldin44, PROportable, MilestonePC.com, and even Zepto's ZeptoUK... =p

 

OK well thanks for the info and your opinion. I live in The Netherlands, so buying a Zepto notebooks should not be a problem.
Yes Dilemma

 

Thanks for sharing that. We look forward to hearing what you have to say about the system.

Hey now...let's not make HEL80 owners jealous . Do you mean a huge improvement in terms of looks or performance or build quality?

Yes, this is correct. The 965 is the chipset, not the integrated graphics processor.

 

I can't wait for these to be released and the reviews start coming in, I really need a new laptop and I think this might just be perfect for what I need

 

see on laptopspirit.fr:
prices :

is it true ?

 

I just found some new info on the graphics card that will be included while browsing around. According to this Micro Express website the Compal IFL90 will ship with the 8600gt. Very good news indeed.
Tim

 

Wait a second...as I read farther into the article it says:

Tim

 

I just found FL91 model for 440 euros on the web site of local reseller. I'm a little bit surprised, maybe this is an error or a different version .
http://www.fortakas.lt/index.php?mid=18&kid=48&pid=76

P.S.
1LT = 3.45 Euros

 

is powernotebooks.com a secure place to order the notebook?

 

That is because at this time...no one knows for sure what the production models will have. If anyone says they do...well...there are always those kind...

 

Yes!
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller_info.pl?seller_id=1980

They are one of the few great notebook resellers skulking around this forum. Lot's of people here have purchased from them.

 

I got my HEL80 from Donald and the gang at Powernotebooks. The experience has been nothing but positive.

 

Just received my HEL80 from PowerNotebooks.com a couple of weeks ago. So far I've been very happy with it.
Both Donald and Ron have been very helpful and have done exactly what they said they'd do.
It's obvious they care about the quality of the relationships they're building.
In today's world that's refreshing.
It has been a completely positive experience working with them.
I can recommend them enthusiastically.

 

positive experience for the most part

 

does powernotebooks accept international credit card? If some could tell me which resellers do accept international credit card

 

PowerNotebooks.com does not accept international credit cards nor do we ship outside the US for either the original shipment or warranty returns. Here are our Acceptable Forms of Payment.

You might want to try www.Xoticpc.com