Asking around the 17 inch model key caps are unique to its design. And I've heard no change in the 15 inch key caps so that's something they source themselves
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Fastidious Reader Notebook Evangelist
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Leonard Fernandez Notebook Enthusiast
These laptops have high response times.
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
Welcome to the laptop world. I think you need desktop PC with a "super ultra destroyer pro gaming TN monitor". The 0.005 seconds less of delay will surely improve any gaming session.
Oh well. So I'm happy to know i'm totally wrong. When the new keyboard will be avaible i'll buy it and try to understand how to install it. There are 2-3 screws under the keyboard. I'm quite sure it is required to remove also the motherboard to have access to the screws.
Yes it is true. The 17" laptop uses the same keycaps of the 15". They are the same keyboard with the same "switch" type. Last edited: Oct 18, 2018 -
I wanted to buy a full keyboard (in Spanish) since I have several broken switches and they told me that they did not sell the keyboard, only the keys ... although in the end they sent me a few switchs for free (thanks PCS!) but It is curious that you are offered the full keyboard.
Anyway, changing the full keyboard does not seem like a simple task, as IKinder_bueno says you should probably remove even the motherboardlKinder_Bueno likes this. -
I agree, this is was I was thinking about when I said "fully and easily removable (without removing glue, bending some parts, destroying some other...)". I agree it's not as easy as changing RAM, but it's still removing screws and parts and unpluging stuff. I hope that if you were able to repaste CPU and GPU, you will be able to replace the keyboard without the need of extra special tricks, skills or tools.
Wow, looks like we have contradictory information from PCS. @yachar do you have access to "My spare parts" on your PCS account ? This is where I saw that I was able to buy new keyboards. And the technical support guy told me that these keyboards are entire keyboards, with switches and caps, and that he was not able to send me only a few switches as you had. Lucky you !
So maybe you're right and the the technical support guy was wrong and when you buy a new keyboard on "My spare parts" page from your PCS account you only get caps... or not. Arf, so confusing.
@Jacob Hawkes Please, could you give us some clarification on the following points ?
- What do we actually get when we buy a new keyboard from our PCS account on the "My spare parts" page ? Only caps ? Switches + caps ? Or fully mounted keyboard ?
- Do you know which caps style will be mounted with incoming new quiet keyboards ?
- If we bought a Recoil II with the clicky keyboard, will we be able to buy new quiet keyboards as a spare part and install it our-self ?lKinder_Bueno likes this. -
Leonard Fernandez Notebook Enthusiast
I bought a asus rog plus 17.3.
The damn laptop gives off some high pitched noise which I find annoying. Damn, and if I exchange it the next asus will probably have the same annoying noise.
Then there is only the Chinese brand as my last option where u only hear the blowing wind coming out. But which has a slow response time, the serviced told me 16ms.
And of course worse graphic card and no gsync...
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Fastidious Reader Notebook Evangelist
Well to say the TONGFANG GK5CN6Z 144hz panel least according to Eluktronics is 5ms LG IPS -
lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
You can't complain you car has not the same quality of a Maserati if you have a budget for a citroen. You have just a too low budget. Add other 500-600€ and buy a zephyrus or a razer -
Yes, in my account I have "My spare parts". The think is that I bought a replacement for my keyboard (hoping a new entire keyboard) and PCS contact me to confirm that they only send the caps, not the entire keyboard. After explaining my problem to the support girl she sent me for free a couple of switches, and refunded my money
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Leonard Fernandez Notebook Enthusiast
X8ti plus they say has 16ms, can that be true? Or. Is. It. The total response time as in notebookcheck reviews?
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Has anyone replaced the slim versions LCD? Curious how easy it is vs the regular thick bezel version (ie is it just the same prying/replacement or more steps).
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This is the second time... I'm playing a game, suddenly my keyboard light is gone and 2 seconds later my whole notebook powered off. Temps are good.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G965F met Tapatalk -
Has anyone mounted a 9.5 mm hdd? Because it fits on my 7 mm and 9.5 mm I can not fasten the screws.
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Fastidious Reader Notebook Evangelist
Think they'll start using 1060 Ti chipset in the thin and light laptops?
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Well that doesn't exist, so no. Although the 6GB 1060 might as well have been called the 1060 Ti and the 3GB version the regular 1060. Mid-range and low end Turing GPUs are rumored for early next year, including a 2060 Ti, so we'll see.
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Fastidious Reader Notebook Evangelist
Well that's what I'm getting at the recent upgrade to the 1060 with GDDR5x and 10,000Gbps clocks using the 1070 GPU underclocked on top of the '17 9000Gbps upgrade.
Would the probable 2060 even come out as a 1060 upgrade if they keep upgrading the 1060.
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For those who still messing around with Linux. I managed to disable the dgpu completely for better battery life. The battery thingy tells me that I have 8:45 h idle and I would guess around 4h while working with the Laptop. Didn't disable bluetooth or the webcam and didn't limit the cpu or anything.
battery discharge with dgpu https://imgur.com/a/WP9QMBT
battery discharge with dgpu disabled https://imgur.com/a/LH9Bumj
the 1600mV discharge is a snapshot it looks like the battery discharges around 1300-1700 mA with the dgpu and around 800-1000 mA without it. Currently running Manjaro Linux with the 4.19 Kernel. But to be honest I am still struggeling to make the dgpu switch off permanent as the system freezes currently on wakeup after suspend.
So still work to do. On Manjaro my one and only steam game for linux works and runs wonderfully with the igpu, no difference to windows, having to admit that total war medieval 2 is not really a benchmark for anything.
I am thinking of undervolting the nvidia card on windows.
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Walmart will be soon be a reseller for this chassis as well. Interesting. Price is pretty good. $1400 for 144hz, i7-8750H, 1060, 16GB, 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD.
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Fastidious Reader Notebook Evangelist
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They already have the page up and it specifically mentions the mechanical keyboard. I hope they'll have this in store to test out. I'm curious about how loud the keys are in real life. Just wish they could have come up with a better brand name than Overpowered, complete with a big OP logo on the laptop. Ugh.
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Fastidious Reader Notebook Evangelist
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someone who has the pcspecialist laptop can tell me which chipset mounts? please?
Thanks
Spanish
alguien que tenga el portátil de pc especialista me puede decir que chipset monta?
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Chipset? Este es el mio de pcspecialist segun el aida.
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Is it normal that I can not install the Intel UHD Graphics drivers? I have installed the ones that Windows gave me, but if I download from the pcspecialist website or if I search for drivers with the intel tool, it tells me that it can not be installed. -
Oh Thanks Sr.
is the Mobile-Intel-HM370-Chipset
Link: https://ark.intel.com/products/135101/Mobile-Intel-HM370-Chipset
It is very important to know the PCI lanes available in this model.
the CPU has 16 available to be used by the GPU.
The GPU uses 16 lanes
And the chipset has 16 more that will be used for USB connections, SATA, M2 (nvme PCI uses CPU lanes) etc.
So as I see the standard configuration of this model the GPU instead of using the 16 lanes ... it will only use 8
GPU-Z provides information on how many lanes the GPU is using
spanish:
es muy importante conocer las lanes PCI disponibles en este modelo.
la CPU tiene 16 disponible para ser usadas por la GPU.
La GPU usa 16 lanes
Y el chipset tiene 16 más que serán usados por conexiones USB, SATA, M2 (nvme PCI usa CPU lanes) etc.
Entonces según veo la configuración standard de este modelo la GPU en vez de usar las 16 lanes...sólo usará 8
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Hi!
After doing this, my laptop doesn`t charge my phone when the laptop is off or in sleep mode. Obviously...i reinstalled everything, even Windows + all drivers etc.
It was working perfectly fine before runing that f.bat
I own a Recoil II with bios 1.04 and EC 1.25.09.
Please help!
P.S. nice forum, nice people.
Charging was working fine. ignore this.Last edited: Nov 4, 2018 -
I received the cyberpower tracer iii slim today. It didn't come with any kind of game center (just some led app that didn't work). I downloaded the gaming center and it works to control fans (and switching performances changes the clocks).
The problem im having is that the "gaming mode" for the fan does nothing. The fan just never turns on in that setting and the clocks just drop more and more and the temps rise to above 80.
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
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I downloaded the 1.2.2.2 gaming center in this thread (and have tried other versions to similar results).
According to cpu-z my bios is by "American Megatrends" , and in biois the version is N 1.03. EC 1.19.09
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
Try with this old gaming center version
https://pan.baidu.com/s/1F5hUL5BFMF28zIhT4zTu3A -
Sorry not having any luck downloading from that page. Have to use google translate to see and the download button seems to keep asking for qr code.
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
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Yep thats what im clicking, and every time it brings up this:
https://i.imgur.com/H6puVWF.png
Edit: I also tried an earlier than that version on page 109, same results.
The fan doesn't seem to turn on at all when pc reboots/starts up (and when it setup windows there was 0 fan noise which also surprised me).
If I enable the control app and set the fan to office mode and whatever percentage, temps ingame seem to be fine, but it is kind annoying having to change it manually every time I game. Also the fan boost button doesnt turn fan on max, it just toggles between game mode (no fan at all) and office mode.Last edited: Nov 3, 2018 -
lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
I think is much more a bios problem. If you want you can try the mechrevo bios you can find here
https://pan.baidu.com/s/1RN9gR9ZtGleN2dvVsKCvRw
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Really hope this kind of bios is compatible and that cyberpower didn't change anything themselves aha. Also yeah Im having no luck being able to download this, does anyone have an account they can download this with and reupload elsewhere?
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Pls help!!
I was lowering the voltage to the cpu with intel XTU and the value of Turbo boost short power max I think it has been changed from 56w to 78w !!! by default, and even if i uninstall the xtu, that value remains if I am not wrong before it was 56w, pls can someone confirm what the value of that field is for default???, I have the recoil ii, and if it is possible that with the xtu modified that value that it has by default and has been saved although uninstall the xtu? -
lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
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nothing, I have reset and it continues dialing 78w by default.
The Turbo boost short power max is 56w by default ??? -
lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
Mine is 35W and 35W as default. It's a bios bug. But i have tuned at 45.75W the turbo max power and 58W the short power max -
And can I have a problem because it is set to 78w?
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
Yes. The PC will go in throttling very easily. Just low it and you will not have any trouble.
I found the updated BIOS from Illegear. 1.06 BIOS and EC:1.24.09. It will resolve all your issues.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DYpj9Z63FVi9RFSpMVtpZXYs_4LkUKiN
Check this Tutorial on YouTube (go at minute 0:43) or just read the written one
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But why is set 76w for default????
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
The default one for Intel are 45W and 78W for short power max (for 30 seconds).
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56seconds.
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
Oh well is really too much. Just low it down as i told you before.
Which version of Gaming Center are you using?
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1.2.2.1 and high performance. but I dont understand why these high values have been set, is that how they come from the factory?
the only thing that I have changed has been the voltage at -145.
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Heya, thanks!
I flashed both the EC and BIOS (with illegear replacing the cyberpowerpc logo).
However it did not have any impact on game mode, the fans still stay off and temps rise to 90c or more.
Still, enabling the fans manually in office mode still works fine, and ingame the gpu stays pinned at 99% with 1785mhz boost and the cpu bounces between 3.3 and 3.9 ghz (probably because it's set to office mode and not gaming mode), and the temps stay between 65c-78c (depending on game). I could probably enable EST and set it to 0 in throttle stop to stop the clock bouncing.
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Ok guys final toughts here.
I own a Recoil II and with bios and ec from here http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=07617434095608468172
With gaming center 1.2.2.3 from Mechrevo.
After you install gaming center you can install XTU to unlimit the power(90W) to the CPU. I get like 1265+CB score.
I have a script that will run the xtu profile that overrides the gaming center profile when u lock/unlock laptop so u can get desired power limit + undervolt.
Works great and i`m sure it will work for any of u.
If u need the script just ask for it.
My settings are -120mv and 30W limit.
This way i use office mode with fans at 50% at 65C and 0 in rest.
So silent <3. temps @ 77-80 on GPU and 75-80 to CPU. but it is silent.
make sure the laptop`s back is rised like 2 cm from the table. Use a rubber thing to elevate it. Cooling pads not needed.
fans off when not gaming.
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Curios about that script if you can share (or what settings you changed in XTU, i'm using throttlestop).
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lKinder_Bueno Notebook Consultant
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How do i upload it here?
Meh, i uploaded it here.
XTU SCRIPT FOR EASY LIFE
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=12882966721558265698Last edited: Nov 4, 2018
TONGFANG GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z
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