TONGFANG GK5CN5Z / GK5CN6Z / GK5CQ7Z / GK5CP0Z

No F**** way to dl this new bios ! Its a shame ! Does anyone can share it ?

 

Repasted my tracer iii slim with mx4 paste (the original paste was pretty dry and caked on, I guess cyberpower didn't repaste it after they received the units). Ingame COD blackout temps (with gpu ocd +100hz core/500 mem) topped out at 65-69c, and cpu at 66-71c (before gpu was like 71-78c, cpu 74-83c), with fan set to office 50%. Cpu was boosting to 3.9ghz most of the time (and in dead by daylight pinned to 3.9ghz at all time). Game mode still doesnt work but honestly it's not a problem anymore, I just check from office to fan control mode and can play fine.

 

@damole
I put down the project for a while and have recently picked it up; one thing that I'm unsure of is how GamingCenter stores and updates its profiles. If I manually update the appropriate registry entry for the single-color RGB value (while the keyboard is using that profile on single-color mode, of course), the value is saved in the registry but the profile in GamingCenter remains the same color and the keyboard has the same light. Thus, I assume GamingCenter has to manually retrieve the new values and update the keyboard lighting, but I'm not sure how it does that - there are a variety of .exe files and a batch file in the GamingCenter program files, but none of them appear to perform that task.

If you have any idea of how this process works, it would be great if you could shed some light on it. Thanks!

Edit: Typo

 

There is a setting in GameCenter that enables Hibernation USB Charging

 

Option is starting to appear for this and the 17 inch model at various vendors to include a i9-8950hk.

That seems a bit too much to handle for either chassis.

What's the tests on that CPU? Does it behave as thermally troublesome as the i7-8750H?

I'd expect worse but I dunno.

 

I doubt the i9 can fully utilize the unlocked potential.

@D2 Ultima



Anyone recommend a canadian retailer for this?

 

I estimate with voltage tuning, liquid metal and a raised back, a 1070N and 70W could be sufficiently cooled in the chassis. But that isn't enough to properly feed a 8950HK, and if the loads are low chances are high clockspeeds don't help much in the workloads being done

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Yea I think someone posted showing another Thin and Light design laptop with one of the i9s before and would throttle getting lower numbers than the i7-8750H in CineBench.

 

Sounds like every laptop with the 8950HK in it except the MSI GT75 to me

 

So on this model and it's similar model is it the 180W max brick offering that really limits the way it could use a i9-8950hk or more it's thermal cooling solution?

Wondering since I've seen some saying to actually fully utilize such a beast in a light chassis it would need a new cooling design outright.

 

It doesn't let more than 55W hit the CPU under indefinite power limit, or 45W under simultaneous CPU/GPU stress for indefinite power limit.

I tested one with the 180W brick. No dice.

It games well runs well is nice and cool especially when forcing turbo fans and I was totally happy with it once I figured out how to stop it dropping to 35W PL1 under CPU/GPU stress, but it's not the best unit to use an 8750H in. It is what it is.

The cooling solution also will never handle 120W shoved down its throat. It's bloody impressive and innovative since the temp is only in the middle of the keyboard, away from WASD and things you normally use while gaming, but it's still a thin and light unit.

 

So would increased case dimensions like the GK7CN6S enable better ability or is it just reaching the limits to what this current design can do?

 

i don't know what the GK7CN65 is because TongFang's naming schemes suck, but if it's the same form factor and just 17", then no. It won't be much better. The 15" is pretty much a 14" with no bezels and a 15" screen as far as size goes and all, but it's gonna be limited by physics. You need bigger fans, probably vapor chamber contacts, and more fin area if you want to dump all that extra heat somewhere. Just widening the chassis a bit won't suddenly add 70W extra dissipating power.

 

Oh darn. I went into a whole spiel about this subject. Then the editor lost my post and I cant write that out all again.

The just of it was that:

* Thank you for reminding me about the size and performance of the fin stack being an important factor. Because I had largely forgotten / been ignoring this aspect.

* It's harder to isolate the performance of the fin stack alone.

So what I was going to recommend, was this simple little piece of test equipment. It is pretty useful: The angeng an8009 multimeter.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AN8...ter-Voltmeter-Ohm-Transistor/32842548196.html

The kit version includes 1 thermocouple for free. It's really affordable, only about $25 USD from aliexpress.

And it has many more uses than just only the specific usage I had been describing. For example it can also be used to measure VRM temps. If you follow Gamers Nexus, you should already be pretty familiar with this kind of a tool. However the ones they use are pretty expensive. Doesn't need to be. This product works just as well, it's really no different. Just properly calibrate it. And use regular thermal paste on the end of the thermocouple, for a good thermal contact. This is what all the overclockers do.

 

Every time the screen of the notebook is turned off (because I suspend it or it shuts down on the screen alone for not using it), the brightness, even if it is 100%, is as if it were 50% and the only solution I have is to turn off and lock the laptop again so that the brightness is 100% true, it happens almost always and is very annoying, does anyone know anything?

 

So these limits would persist with all thin and light typed laptops due to power limitations?

Would a repaste with a new thermal material like thermal grizzly or liquid metal type solutions aid it or is the chassis and its cooling design going to be its primary limiting factor?

 

Just dropping this here. Sorry I haven't been active lately, too much stuff going on. Even these I only recently found some time to go to my local assemblers to retrofit, despite them being available for a bit already - so sorry if its not exactly newsworthy.

Still had to post my impressions on these ( "Brown" switches), as they are much, much better noise wise... without completely giving up the "mech" feel (or being a tad too mushy like the semi-membranes on Tongfang's earlier models). They're also much more resistant to "chattering" compared to the old keys. It still happens under certain conditions, though much less during "normal" typing, and its enough of an improvement that I can stop using Chatterfix now. Finally, the XMG-type caps also feel a lot less "loose" compared to the old ones.

The other keyboard on the left? My old "Blue" switch keyboard part with the "old" caps for comparison. After the retrofit my friendly local guys simply let me go back with the thing as a spare lol.

 

It would have been nice for you to make a quick typing test video before / after comparison. And upload that to youtube.

 

Like I said, time is a bit of an issue. Maybe later once I can find some free time I'll put that up.

 

I'm talking about thermal limits of the unit. Paste is not a factor; assume to be the best possible

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Wow, some good news around here !

@VonPaul Your script is exactly what I was looking for a few months ago: overriding Gaming Centers' xtu profile. However I think I missed something that propery let me understand how you use your script. So here are a bunch of questions for you.
You say it gives you the ability to set the CPU's power up to 90W, but i thought that i7 8750H can only get up to 65 or 75W in short power boost, right ?
And why do you set your power value to 30W when we know that 8750H's TDP is 45W ? Was your main goal to limit power enought in order to play silently ?
If so, I guess you get 1265+ CB score with 90W power limit (and not 30W), right ?

Do you or anyone of you know if that script also work with other BIOS+EC versions and latter Gaming Center versions ? (I just saw 1.2.2.8 on Mechrevo's website !)

@eiraku your picture of replaced keyboard looks very hopefull to me, because I'm still looking for "brown switch" keyboard ! You got directly from Illegear right ? Gosh, i'm wondering when it will be available somewhere with french layout...

 

Wonder if that power increase could help this i9 thing since that goes to about 75+ under turbo load.

 

Help, from one day to another, while I play the tdp of my cpu for a long time it stays at 33w causing the frequency to drop to 3.33ghz with its fps drops, before it could play perfectly at 3.8ghz and it did not go down in No time, what could happen? In intel xtu, the only thing that indicates is power limit throttling ...
If I do a stress test to the cpu with intel xtu it is maintained all the time at 3.8ghz (I have undervolt at -145v.)

 

So Linux support has been improved? Any reviews on the 15.6 one with 1060 max-Q and 62 wh battery?

 

PLEASE HELP!!!!!! I have updated the bios of pcspecialist to the last one here and the ec, now nothing else to start the temperature is at 95ºC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously the fan is all the time to the fullest, and tending throttling all the time! HELP!!!!!!!!! what do I do now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update: I downloaded the version of the bios to 1.04 (first go down to 1.03 and then went up to this) and everything has returned to normal, I do not understand what could have happened before, incredible ...
The EC is still in the latest version, is there any way to put the 1.25 pcspecialist back without risk? Apparently everything is ok, but should not have a problem with pcspecialist for being that updated to the latest version?

 

Maybe you didn't loaded default value on bios after the bios upgrade.
It's very risky downgrade EC, so don't downgrade it

 

Yep mine is straight from the fine folks at Illegear.

Don't worry about the French version, it should be out in time. If you're impatient though, you can always peel the old French caps off the old KBB and transplant them over to an International "Brown" KBB assembly. The caps are actually mix-match-able (and with very little effort too - you can just peel them off with your fingernails).

They won't feel as good to type on vs the XMG-likes unfortunately but at least they'll be in the right layout.

And you can probably sell the caps to international folks who want a "slight" upgrade to their GK5CN typing experience (vs a full switch/cap retrofit).

 

The sad thing is that no reseller is as good as illegear. Noone will replace our old keyboard. I wrote a lot of times to PCS and they don't provide any spare parts to normal customers

 

That's rather unfortunate, but I'd pretty much agree that they're rather good for the barebones assembler that they are - and I'm pretty thankful to say the least.

On the flip side, last time I was there, I did hear guarded whispers that they are trying to figure out International Order details for GK5CN parts, considering they've already gotten more then a few out-of-state inquiries in already about the Brown-Switch KBB and new Caps.

Nothing concrete yet, but they ARE considering it.

 

New Illegear keyboards : https://www.facebook.com/ILLEGEAR/v...he-next-level-tactility-fas/2067792306582233/

 

Not sure if these are blue or brown switches though. They kinda sound like blues.

Just to make it a lot clearer I'll try to post up something on YT today or tomorrow comparing the two - as soon as I get to somewhere static.

 

As promised, I did find some downtime so here's the comparo. It's very rough though, as I just threw things together to record this (hence the very unfortunate lack of gloves).

Again, the Window default chime is set to 100% volume as a reference baseline.



And yes, if you punch the keys hard, they don't really sound all that different - though with slower pokes the Blue switches remain clicky as heck even with very little force, in complete contrast to the very muted Browns.

 

Hey guys! I've been following this post for a while now and I've got a couple questions about this laptop.

1. How's the typing experience on the laptop? (Preferably about the brown switches) Are there any downsides to the mechanical keyboard? (Apart from the sound)

2. The 144hz screen. Any noticeable backlight bleed? How's the response time?, the reseller in my country advertises it at 5ms GTG.

3. How's the overall build quality and longevity of the laptop? Any weak points that I should watch out for?

4. Any further news or a release date on a 1070 Max-Q version of this laptop coming out?

Cheers!

 

Typing is good browns aren't any louder than other laptop keyboards and the mechanical switch design can alleviate some fatigue for extended typing periods.

From what I've heard from those getting the IPS LG display there has been little to none. Meaning what some have experienced as bleed is more the Glow IPS displays experience.

Built quality is quite sturdy. No flex in the screen or top deck from what I've heard and both are aluminum Bottom is thick plastic and also very sturdy. Cools well though the heat pipe design generates heat above the hands along the ridge where the power and turbo buttons are.

As of now no. From what has been said that's up to NVIDIA in testing and certification on what can carry a Max Q card.

 

Just to explain this point a little bit further: the existence of hotspots is something generally speaking very difficult to avoid or eliminate for many such laptops, that use aluminium for the chassis material. Actually what makes the tongfang so much better than its competitors here is that the hotspot is both much smaller than other laptops. And also its in a location which is very rarely / not often used. And the times you do neet to press power or oc buton, its for a very short duration. This is excellent, that there is no hotspot on either side where your hands typically rest or are typing. Its really great for the usability, and keeping the heat as far away from the operator. If only other 'big brand' laptops (Dell, HP, etc) were more like this one.

 

Yea keeps the hot spot up and away from the keys. A change over my old Clevo for sure

 

Can the RGB wave effect be improved in some way to make it look better like other keyboards?

 

Does anybody have any clue why my laptop is going off by itself?.. I will explain: I'm playing a game, randomly my keyboard lightning is gone and my game is lagging as ****.. than it just powers off like if u hold the power button. after a few seconds i see the battery light turning green or orange and i can power up the laptop. (already did a fresh windows install, throttlestop etc. temps are between 70c to 81c)

 

Which bios do you have?

 

1.02.. dont want to update it by myself..

 

If you have a PCS Bios i think it's normal. The 1.02 it's an old bios version and it has serious power throttling issues.
Your laptop is trying to use much more power than it can absorbe and it's also ruining your battery.
If you Don't want to update to mechrevo 1.11 (the best bios) update at least to 1.04 PCS.
If you need help write me in PM

 

Ok.. is that why my battery doesnt charge to 100% but sticks at 93%? I will send u a pm


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Is the latest bios from PCS 1.05?

 

Quick question Guys, do you think the graphics cards are enough powerfull to connect at the same time:

• 2*QHD 24' using 2 MiniDisplayPort: https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/écran-dell-ultrasharp-25-u2518d/apd/210-amrr/moniteurs-et-accessoires-de-moniteur
• 1 * QHD 50' using 1 HDMI

(I assume the 2 MiniDisplayports use 1050Ti card and HDMI the embeded one?). The use is not for Gaming.

Let me know you thoughts on this.

Thx by advance.

 

since the last two weeks the temperature with the same scenarios has increased and reaches (before max 87ºc) 93ºc getting to throttling everything making it impossible to play anything well ... and just a month ago I have it ...

 

I got the laptop but it's not performing well in a certain game in. Do I. Need to tweak it?

 

Which is the latest PCS bios for GK5CN5Z (1050ti)?

 

You may need to repaste, mine started running much hotter over time and repasting it brought the temps back to normal.

 

My cpu runs at extremely low speed in game 0.81ghz. Don't know why

 

It sounds like its using intel GPU instead of the nvidia one. Open up nvidia setings and set preffered gpu to the 1060 one.

Edit: oops misread, thought you meant gpu.