TONGFANG GK7CN6S / GK7CP0S / GK7CP7S

Is there a way to disable the numlock message that appears in the upper left on the Overpowered ones? I use a lot of virtual machines in virtualbox and every time I'm switching between I get that popup. Thx

 

If anyone could find any of the new OLED/240hz panels could be a good upgrade to prevent PWM, some blur, improvement to colors, or just to increase value of the laptop.
Also what do some of you think of the Razer Blade Pro, seems like a worst laptop since RTX 2070 is max-q as well as the RTX 2080 on that laptop vs TF 17 being able to do RTX 2070 max-p

 

Sad times, the UK site isnt updated for it yet ;-;
Hopefully it's the 90w version and not the 80w.

I know the 80w version is around 4-6% faster than the full rtx 2070 in laptops so the 90w should still be a decent buy.

 

haha, of course!! 8 days after my return period ends, the new chips are out with a 2080! granted it's $250 more for a similar 2070 config, and i can only imagine how much more for a 2080 max q unit. I don't think it's proportionate for the performance increase. Pretty sweet deal nonetheless.

 

I just flashed the BIOS on my OP 17+ from 1.04 to 1.08.

Everything seemed to go fine but I lost the LED bar on the front of the computer. It doesn't power on anymore. The good news is the fan toggles to Turbo now with the switch next to the power button.

Anyone know how to fix the LED in the front?

 

IN the OP Control Center, under the EZ Switch tab the last option at the bottom is called: Turn off OSD (On-Screen Display).

See if that helps.

 

Just when I'm about the buy the PowerSpec 1720 from Microcenter, Eluktronics lowered the price on the mech17 to match the 1720 at $1599 >.<

Really can't make up my mind now

 

DO you have a link to each configuration? Are you looking to get the 8750 or 9750?

 

Mech17 and 1720. I'll go for the 8750 though I see many people in here struggling to cool the 8750h

 

You gotta get the Mech. Choose the Liquid Metal to help cooling. No tax and you get a free mouse and pad

 

Thanks thought so too. No G-sync sucks but the reviews look pretty good

 

Did you all see the new "EluktroBoost technology" listed on the Mech-17 page? Apparently they can boost the 2060 to 115 W and the 2070 to 125 W with the 9th gen CPU option. I wonder how they're doing this.

 

The powerspec while is ridiculous value, especially if you can get a Microcenter open box deal, has very, VERY underwhelming keyboard. i had the i7 7700 1070 version on a trial basis and it was a struggle lol

 

Woah there, someone needs to look into this and see if it can be applied to the other models!

My guess is that if the brick cant give enough power, it'll use the battery :/

 

I was struggling with the same decision a couple weeks ago, and I ended up going with the Mech17. What pushed me in that direction was the realization that I'd game most frequently on an external G-Sync monitor, so I didn't really need it on the laptop, and the Mech17 is smaller & lighter than the 1720.

Also, I just got off the phone with Eluktronics regarding the EluktroBoost tech. It sounds like it is hardware based and built into the motherboard with the new i7-9750H and that the powerbrick can supply more watts. They said it won't be possible to enable it on my laptop with the i7-8750H...

However, they did offer to allow me to return my laptop for the upgrade. It'd be $200 more for the i7-9750H and the possibility of getting 10 more watts to my 2070... Would that be a worthwhile upgrade? Decisions, decisions...

The fact that there hasn't really been any benchmarks comparing a 115w 2070 vs 125w 2070 or heat reviews comparing the 8750 vs 9750 makes the decision much more difficult to make...

 

Same the arrivial of i7-9750 has made things more complicated. Though I think I'll stick with 8750h cause I have no idea if the mech17 will be able to cool the 9750h sufficiently.

 

If the 9750h 2060 can hold the 115 W boost well, it most likely performs better than the current 8750h 2070 combo, considering the performance difference between the 2060 and 2070 is already so small. I'm disappointed that the TDP of the 2070 was boosted by a measly 10 W when compared to the 2060 being boosted by a whopping 25 W.

 

OWNorDisown did a nice comparison of the 8750h vs 9750h. Here are my three takeaways:

1. It seems like the 9750h, on average, pulls about 10 to 15 fewer watts during the same tests as the 8750h. Most likely, that is where the extra wattage is coming from for the Eluktroboost.

2. However, despite pulling fewer watts, the final chart shows that the 9750h runs 5 degrees C hotter than the 8750h running the same tests. This is counterintuitive given the lower power-draw. Perhaps it is the result of other variables?

3. On the whole, the 9750h doesn't seem like that much of an improvement to me. I'm inclined to just keep my 8750h+2070 combo. I really wish there was a 115w 2070 vs 125w 2070 comparison...

Decisions, decisions...

 

Has anyone ever brought their LED bar back to life after BIOS upgrade?

I don't want this to get lost!

 

I found this fix on Own or Disown:

Solution #1 (Tested on BIOS 1.04) a) Reboot into BIOS, pressing DEL key b) From Advanced Menu under: Keyboard BackLight Features Change Light Effect to something else (mine was set to [Wave], I set it to [Rainbow]) c) Save settings and reboot into Windows d) Reboot back into BIOS e) Perform (b) and (c) above but this time in (b) set the Light Effect back to the original setting. [Wave]

Solution #2 (Tested on BIOS 1.08) a) From a laptop with a working Light Bar, export the following registry key using RegEdit utility Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\GamingCenter b) Copy this registry file to the machine with the broken light bar c) Import this registry file into the machine in (b) by double clicking on the file d) Reboot e) If the light bar still is not working, perfom Solution 1 above.

Can someone with a working lightbar email me the registry key in solution #2?

I will PM you my email address.

 

I was able to restore my lightbar! What I did was:
1 - After losing lightbar after upgrading to 1.08 BIOS, I uninstalled the Gaming Center.
2 - I installed the custom RevCenter from page 336 on the other thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/tongfang-gk5cn5z-gk5cn6z-gk5cq7z-gk5cp0z.815943/page-336
3 - In that program there is a brightness setting for the lightbar. I boosted that up from 0 and the lightbar came on.
4 - Then I uninstalled RevCenter (since it disables ThrottleStop and I have mine tuned and working well with TS)
5 - Reinstalled Gaming Center 1.2.2.8

I now have the turbo boost fan working the way I like and the lightbar back to the blue color that works for me.

 

Just played some Battlefield V with Ultra/High and RTX ON on the OP-LP3 (1060GTX) no problemo. Obviously not 60fps, but 30-40fps easy. To play around with specs, I reduced texture quality to medium and terrain detail and it's very very playable.

TBH, givent the weak game support of RTX, I'm definitely less eager to upgrade to the RTX line of things.

 

@Bauble I would not consider the upgrade from the 8750H to the 9750H to be worth $200, though if you have the cash it might be fun to play around with. Especially if you get a chance to test them both side by side (hint hint!). Since we are starting to see real-world tests comparing the 8th/9th gen CPU’s, the GPU here is the big question. The EluktroBoost option is intruiging but I wonder if the extra wattage would border on too much heat without some aggressive cooling solutions. Since Cyberpower released this chassis with the 2080Max-Q instead of the full 2080, that tells me it lacks the thermal headroom for too much above the (presumably) 90W 2080. And a 115W 2070 is already up there. Without having one in hand to test though, it’s all up in the air. I do love my cool and quiet 1060.

 

If you are getting the 9750H then I suggest you also invest in a fire extinguisher

 

I'm at High Performance so its not a power issue, I can't be the only one with this issue, like its noticeable, I'm pretty sure I'm not imaging this

 

for all those interested, I checked with Eluktronics and they finally have some spare 230w chargers ($~95) available on the site (they just had them for mech 15 for the longest time).

 

I am still having trouble with this. I went back to an earlier image of the os using the original ssd and macrium.

Because I am still on the newer bios the light at wasn’t working. I attempted to install rev2 to use my fix. It installs but it never comes up.

Can someone with a working light bar with the OP17+ send me the registry key listed above?

 

Hi, for the owners of a RTX2070 laptop.

Can you set the fans to a fixed fan speed or do you have a curve?
I have currently a Clevo p970EF which is working great. Wit an undervolt, max boost to 3600MHz and fans set to 53% (till CPU 85 and GPU 75, then liniear to max at 100C) I get excelent performance with very good fan noise, temps are 78 degrees CPU and 81 degrees GPU in Far Cry 5 with average of 91 fps on ultra. Results are very good for a RTX2070mq (firestrike graphic score of 18800+, firestrike 16500+), in fact, BoB tested an MSI with 9750H and full RTX2070 and had 96 frames average (not tuned I believe).

Only I have a bend screen and backlight bleed and have to decide to ask a repair or ask a refund and try a tongfang, which will cost around 200€ more. I’ve seen both and heard max fans of both and they where both similar, the tongfang a bit less anyoing with a lower pitch. But if the temps here are on max fan (or near max), I would like to keep my clevo as it performs awesome. I really don’t mind the extra performance of the full. I just want a good and pretty cool and quiet machine.

Thanks for the reply!

 

There is a software you can download here to assign a fan curve (posted a few pages back). I initially turned on max fans for all testing but now i just have it on "gaming". I can't say much other than I don't even notice it, even when using speakers and not a headset.

 

Great, what are your temps typically in heavy games?

The clevo is dialed in and pretty good, but the reseller says every Clevo P970 had a bend screen and this can’t be repaired. In europe you can return for full refund the first 2 weeks. You have the RTX2070 version?
So I might change.

 

Just ran BF V yesterday for a good hour and half or so, max graphics (no RTX) on an external 27in 144hz display, 90-120 fps hovering right around 67-70 C with a peak of 73 C. This thing still amazes me at how good it can cool, and i'm coming with a behemoth of a laptop with massive cooling.

 

Good to hear! I was wondering I they can pull this off? The heatsink looks pretty weak but is there some choice in material or the fan blades are very fine?

 

Sometimes I ask myself the same question lol. I opted for the liquid metal paste directly from eluktronics and I have it docked on an x stand (although difference between angled and not is minimal, just a force of habit). I don't run it undervolted, although it gets even better. Ambient temp is 70-73.

How I have it configured

 

Just wonder if anyone has any experience with this, how's the RTX 2070 for multi monitor gaming? More specifically, 3 x 1080p monitors playing games like Destiny 2 and Warframe

 

I have a couple other 27 in 1080p hp monitors (hp27b). I can try to plug them later if no one else has it configured. The HP 27 are 75hz vs 144hz on these so it might not play nice lol. For what it's worth I tried running both of these (AOC C27G1) and it's crushing it without skipping a beat. 1080p are super easy to push to this gen it seems.

 

I was thinking of getting a setup like yours, but I was worried that gaming with the lid closed would cause the heat to damage the laptop screen. Has your screen been affected in any way using this setup?

 

haven't run into any issues yet. I have it setup to do nothing when i close my lid so i'm assuming it just turns it off. It doesn't affect temps at all either from the looks of the temp log.

 

Awesome, lemme know how it goes out

 

For anyone interested there is a Solid Deal on Newegg for the Eluktronics Mech - 17 G1Rx with i7-9750h and 1660ti at just $1250 - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIA8S19768420

Normally this is $1200 barebone on Eluktronics without the Windows 10, 512GB Nvme SSD, 16GB Ram. With them configured on the website it totals $1555.

On top of that the Newegg deal includes the Eluktronics Luminosa eSports Gaming Mouse, normally a $35 add-on, as well the Eluktronics Gaming Mousepad, a $5 add-on, for FREE.

I've emailed Eluktronics to see if one can add Thermal Paste Upgrades to the Deal from Newegg. If so that will likely be the best value option (atleast for the 1660 ti). Also asked if it includes the alleged EluktroBoost (for the 1660 ti goes from standard 80W to 90W, which theoretically should make it perform on Par with 2060 laptops at 80W, and 1070 laptops at 115W) due to having the 9750h (would be nice to get more info on that).

 

For those wondering about the Luminosa mouse - I received the Luminosa and mouse pad for free as well and I initially thought it was just some cheapo knock off "gaming mouse" but I was pleasantly surprised. It has superb egononics and weighs in at a respectable 94 grams with a solid sensor (PMW3389 sensor) and a really nice paracord cable. I'm usually partial to wireless mice (g903 and g305) but this one literally feels wireless.

Plenty of info for those interested here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/bbptd4/eluktronics_luminosa_overviewfirst_impressions/

 

Got a response from Eluktronics, apparently one can upgrade the thermal paste even for an order from newegg/amazon, by ordering for example this - https://www.eluktronics.com/mastergel-maker-to-cpu-gpu-thermal-compound-upgrade followed by copying the Order Number (that one got from Newegg/Amazon) in the Comments during payment info. Just want to avoid Expedited Shipping so that they will be able to apply the thermal paste in time, otherwise they have to meet a deadline and ship it out quickly.

Also this was what i got in response to asking about EluktroBoost "Yes, any Mech-15 or Mech-17 system with the 9th gen processor will receive the EluktroBoost feature so you will receive the 90 watts increase to the GPU when using the TurboBoost mode on your system."
So seemingly the only time one would have access to increased TDP for Gpu is when using the TurboBoost mode, which is sorta unfortunate (due to the loud noise from Turbo) but makes sense i guess.

Regarding the 512 NVMe SSD, it can either be the 512GB Adata SX8200 Pro or "At minimum" the 500GB Eluktro Pro-X, but couldn't get the exact model confirmed.

Edit- Here is the standard Ram they use, such as in the Newegg deal i listed. Sadly is C19 so not the fastest- https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct8g4sfs8266

 

Not to double post, but this probably deserves it's own, got more details on EluktroBoost that explains why 9th gen can have it, and 8th gen can't -

"In regards to the EluktroBoost, that is actually hardware and software related but we decided to equip every 9th gen unit with the feature instead of charging extra for each. Our CEO took an evening to try switching the motherboard from a Mech-17 (Max-P 2070) in to the Mech-15 and found it was actually pretty capable to handle without thermal throttling even with the smaller fans the Mech-15 has. That led to a lot of back and forth with our ODM TongFang until we concluded on the option for a slight revision to the motherboard, a larger AC adapter and changing the TurboBoost mode to function differently. The TurboBoost mode button is where the software will enable the feature to run up to the wattages we've disclosed per graphics card depending on thermal temperatures. Opting for game mode or office mode will still retain the 80 watts. We were really hoping this could just be a BIOS solution so previous 8th gen customers could take part and simply upgrade the power supply, but there was a hardware change to the motherboard to complete the capability as well. "

 

Just hearing the CEO being this technical makes me want to order this bad boy (17") sooooooooo bad. Is it possible to switch the lcd back panel (where the logo goes) with the overpowered so my wife doesn't nag me about upgrading my laptop again? (I'm half joking)

edit: I guess ordering a custom OP sticker also works

 

Yeh the detailed explanation and the quick and helpful responses via e-mail tech support from Eluktronics have me about ready to pull the trigger. Interesting that you also have the MSI GP73, since the other main option i was looking at is a MSI GP75 with 9750h and 1660ti. From gentechpc it's 1499 ( https://www.gentechpc.com/product-p/msi-gp75-9sd-437.htm) and includes free thermal paste and fujipoly pad upgrades. With the 2% NBR promo code it comes out to $1469. So that is nearly $200 more for identical specs to the Mech 17 newegg deal +$25 MasterGel thermal upgrade = $1275. I prefer the more gamer friendly look of the MSI GP75, and seemingly the MSI speakers will be better than those on the underwhelming Mech 17 (not to mention the speaker driver issues). Performance though would seemingly favor the MECH 17, especially with the TDP increases ( 90W 1660ti should be able to match the 2060's which usually have the paltry 80W. If one opts for 2060, it's 115W should now outclass 2070 MQ tier). Only tradeoff for the EluktroBoost Watt increase seems to be it forces you to run Turbo Mode to activate it, and the over 50 decibel fans are not overly appealing tbh (would be nice if one could manually control the Fan Curve even during Turbo Mode. Maybe the program that was linked some pages ago can do that though, will have to check it out if i bite the bullet).

Would be nice if there was an updated video by a top tier reviewer such as Jarrod'sTech, Bob Of All Trades, or OWNorDisown for the 9750 and rtx series/gtx 1660 ti. I know Dave2d did a video, and his are ok for like a Snack, but a more thorough video with detailed analysis/benchmarks/temps and the like would be ideal.

Also since 9th gen intel mobile and 1660 ti JUST came out, there is still plenty of new/updated laptops that will be coming out in the next couple weeks. Just makes it harder to know if i wanna join the Tongfang Club right now, or wait a few more days. Still it's unlikely that anything else will out-value this in terms of specs, and price is most important to me (otherwise I'd be getting an Alienware 51m with 9700k and 2080).

 

I'd wait and yes they're all good options. MSI GP73 is such a pleasure but definitely caters to more heavy gamers than myself. I love the smaller footprint of the tongfang and mechanical keyboard. Performance has been awesome. I absolutely love this chassis. Strikes perfect balance between size and performance.

I think OwnOrDisown is receiving a test model from Eluktronics shortly! @OWNORDISOWN can confirm

 

@SlickDragon I got a great deal on the laptop in my signature for about $1250 shipped (CL 19 RAM and a single 500GB SSD). Not as good a deal as the OP version for $999, but I’m happy. The 1660Ti model for the same price I paid sounds like an excellent value. You may be getting up to a 30% performance boost over the 1060. Though if you can find a 2060 for just a bit more it might be worth it.

Thanks for the info from Eluktronic, very interesting! It would be nice to be able to get max wattage without committing to the full fans. I prefer to run my fans on auto, which is usually around 70% under load... less obnoxious than the loudest setting.

 

Well dayum, I think that rules out us non US users getting that feature except from importing it ;-;

 

Who wants to play in turbo boost anyway. The fans are very load than.

 

I agree, it doesn't make for the best experience but i'd bet that the majority of people game with a headset, which make it a non-issue.
If you use decent external speakers, or even a good $30 2.0 system,the audio will easily drown them out. If you game with laptop audio ... then you're not living right

 

If you are always gaming at home and have place for a sound system, you can also buy a desktop .