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    The Arima W840 DI Thread

    Discussion in 'Other Manufacturers' started by Shane@DARK., Aug 19, 2008.

  1. tornbacchus

    tornbacchus GO leafs.. Wait, Nevermid

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    ok thanks arondel

    i already looked into cyberpower, and they said they dont ship to canada :(

    ill try killernotebooks and see if he can give me a decent price on the system with an 8800M GTX. im going to look into rk computers on monday, and hope i can get it for a good price as well
     
  2. plasma.

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    if ur on a budget, go RKC. If ur looking for top quality and legendary support, go K|N
     
  3. plasma.

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    oh, i just checked xoticpc and it looks like theyre selling the whitebook as well. looks like their catching on.

    off topic: how do u change ur title? im a deity now but i cant find any option fr it
     
  4. tornbacchus

    tornbacchus GO leafs.. Wait, Nevermid

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    if i purchased from xoticpc, could i purchase one ati card with it and put another one in?

    i also dont really like the logo on the cover, and that theres no finish on it, but im considering it now.

    i still want to see some real pics, i hope they come soon.
     
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    If you purchased from any reseller you can install the second card later. As any whitebook the resellers brand it with their own logo's. If you do not want a reseller logo ask your reseller to put a blank logo on the chassis.
     
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    This model is due to start shipping 09/12, you should see some pics after that.................
     
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    Everywhere I reed Killer Notebooks is sooooooo expensive. I have looked at all the links & companies people have put up. Except for Cyber Power PC I am paying less than any of them.
     
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    xoticpc has it now!! IM HAPPY AS A SCHOOL GIRL LMAO
     
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    No reseller's have it now, OCZ is not shipping till the 12th................ETA

    Every reseller is Pre-Order at this time.........
     
  10. tornbacchus

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    so your paying less from killernotebooks?
     
  11. plasma.

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    whats so great bout xoticpc? xotic and PN are becoming the Dells and HPs of clevo resellers.

    And no one forget about RKC, they offer good prices too
     
  12. RunningGunner

    RunningGunner Notebook Consultant

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    Nagamaki
    Dual 3870 Graphic cards
    Dual 320 GB 7,200 spin hard disks
    x9100 processor
    4 Gigabytes of memory
    4 Gigabytes of turbo memory
    Regular DVD
    64 bit Windows Vista Business
    N wireless + bluetooth
    Extra battery
    No dead pixel guaranty

    Shipping included: $3,555


    CyberPower was the lowest price, partially because I couldn't configure the system with the 2'nd hard disk, turbo memory or second battery. At the end of the configuration there was "rush service". It appears if you want them to build the system in less than 5 days it will cost you about $69. From what it says there it wasn't any sort of speedier shipping included with that. There are three pages of options for the order. It was very confusing.

    I just looked at ExoticPC since it was posted and they were $3,505 + $37 shipping and it did not include the second battery or the no deal pixel guaranty.

    Dark Smiley Systems was $3,341 with shipping it did NOT include the extra battery, 4 GB Turbo memory, no dead pixel guaranty and adult supervision.
     
  13. tornbacchus

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    dam thats an amazing setup from kn, and you also have amazing build quality that you know your going to get. i just wish i had that money to spend :)
     
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    I'll try rk, killernotebooks it's dam expensive
     
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    RunningGunner Notebook Consultant

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    Everybody say they will post Some REAL Pics
    But noone does,

    If possible add some Video of your Quad Core Laptops on youtube too guys
     
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    There are no "real" pics available, this models is not yet available...
     
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    i saw in some forum that this laptop gets 11000 3dmark06 and 50000 3dmark03, anyone know that forum please link me thanks
     
  19. plasma.

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    more like 15000 3dmark06

    I think I might be getting from RKC, as the Custom A panels look absolutley awesome

    Hey Rob, how much will they cost and will you ever have an option for 6GB of DDR3 RAM?
     
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    I already posted a link where you can find not only real pics but also a video of this notebook with scenes from 3D Mark ´06 (14850) points :p
    Visit www.mycizmo.com and there you will find the product, they call it AX17.
     
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    They also have more pics (new angles) at xoticpc.com
     
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    Thankyou so much :)
    Amazing site, love the part that you can pick ur colour
    Wanted the blk, like the full white too

    Just some things are bad
    cos its not in USA
    is its hard drive SATA 300 or 150 ?
    doesnt have 8g ram yet, all others do
    & BEST of all can have your own ersonal Logo on the back
    than the comp, sager, eurocom, etc....

    wish had some site in USA
    where we could do all this :(
     
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    www.xoticpc.com has all those but the 8gig ram not sure the whitebook holds that much. The hd's are sata II -300 they do the custom finishes as well.
     
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    Killernotebooks appears to be offering 8 gigs of ram. Personally I'm quite fine with 4, I'm having trouble figuring if I should plan on getting a X9100 or not though.
     
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    I'm sure the memory is easily user upgradable to.
     
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    2x4gb sticks of ram is a lot of money
     
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    Oddly enough, neither Patriot, OCZ, nor Corsair make 4GB modules of laptop DDR3. I wonder who K|N is getting these from.

    @Colotedtoad: The memory is probably the easiest thing on a laptop to upgrade :)
     
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    GoG topic about the 8GB of RAM in one of their other notebooks. http://guruofgaming.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2197
    In this thread KN answered in detail. The post was thorough and contained substance but when I was done reading I was left thinking, " ...and?"

    There doesn't seem to be allot of use for the extra RAM. I learned what could be done with it technically. I had never heard of half the stuff he talked about before but, " ...so what? What do you get out of it in performance?" It seemed for the regular person or gamer ALMOST NOTHING.

    I feel that paying this much for 8 GB RAM is premature. Next year this will probably cost a quarter of what it costs now. From a consumers point of view, If it was that great wouldn't they be putting it in their review systems?
     
  29. Shane@DARK.

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    In the coming years there will probably be many more programs that utilize that much RAM, just like there will be many programs that can utilize all the cores of a quad-core processor. But you're right - at the moment it's still really unneeded, unless you're using intensive professional applications.
     
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    try this, I'm not sure if killer has another supplier for this...

    http://www.micron.com/products/partdetail?part=MT16HTS51264HY-667

    it's available but not in a name brand yet, I'm sure the server suppliers carry them,....so many RAM companies you wouldn't believe. We are so familiar with corsair, kingston, OCZ, patriot.....etc...
     
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    should we move this to the ocz thread now?
     
  34. NGH

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    Here is an article I found on reselleradvocate.com that talks about this notebook and its potential impact on the industry:

    OCZ Transforms Custom-built

    [​IMG] This 17” Montevina has it all, from optical SPDIF and integrated biometrics to dual hard drives and discrete dual-GPU graphics. At last, the channel has a notebook that can crush the big boys.


    The first Centrino whitebook to ever fall in our hands was an FIC MB02—a glamourless but dogged Pentium M machine that’s still in use today. While custom-built notebooks have a bit more panache than they used to, they still often look bland beside the flashy Tier One notebooks. Part of that has to do with the fact that, in general, the Tier Ones get their pick of the ODM designs, and the channel gets whatever is left over. In effect, we’re trying to make Turkish coffee from pot dregs.

    This sad condition is changing, and not a moment too soon. Perhaps the best example of what we hope becomes the future in custom-built mobility is OCZ’s DIY gaming notebook. As of this writing, just before the Montevina launch, the company has a single 15.4" kit based on the Intel PM965 chipset and NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT discrete graphics. Hardware-wise, there isn’t much that’s exceptional about the unit. Rather, the product’s draw lies in the fact that it’s a barebones product accompanied by excellent assembly instructions and a list of approved add-in components.

    Enthusiasts like to build desktops; OCZ is telling the same crowd that now they can build notebooks—a relatively new and untried message to consumers. While the product is sold through retail, etail, and the channel alike, resellers can add value to the product by matching the retail price but adding some assembly mentorship. According to Eugene Chang, OCZ’s product manager for notebooks, the company is noting an unexpectedly high number of mainstream consumers—not just the expected enthusiasts—taking home the DIY SKU, and this is the group that can benefit most from reseller involvement.

    As intriguing as OCZ’s DIY model may be, it’s not our chief interest. With the Montevina launch, OCZ will add a 17" widescreen model to its DIY lineup, and this unit is remarkably different from anything else we’ve seen before. For starters, the notebook features two 2.5" hard drive bays, a feature we’ve seen before only on ultra-high-end designs from the likes of Voodoo PC. With this RAID 0, RAID 1, and Matrix Storage become easy enhancements.

    Even more exciting is the fact that OCZ’s unit will feature two Mobile PCI Express Module (MXM) graphics slots, potentially enabling technolgies like full CrossFire and SLI (not just the hybrid approaches) on mobile platforms. MXM is an interconnect standard for mobile GPU cards that does away with the proprietary interconnects and soldered-down approaches of traditional notebooks. MXM, or something very much like it, is a necessary step if we’re ever going to have channel notebooks that are customizable to the extent that desktops are today.

    “Our 17" model will be an MXM solution that can enable dual graphics,” says OCZ chief marketing officer Alex Mei. “You’ll have the option to pick either an AMD or NVIDIA solution. The other notebook guys haven’t even wanted to touch that. A Tier One doesn’t want you to have the ability to change out that MXM card. They want the card to be sold with the notebook. The card may even be proprietary to that notebook. We’re trying to work with partners to build general spec MXM cards, and if they’re not able to do it, we’ll do it ourselves and come up with an MXM card so that people can customize, configure, and change out the unit as necessary. We’re trying to create a new niche here.”

    With dual graphics, two hard drives, an optical drive (Blu-ray is an available option), and a 12-cell battery, the 17" OCZ Montevina weighs in at just over nine pounds. Figure in Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, a Web cam, and a single HD 3870 MXM card, and OCZ anticipates that reseller pricing should fall around $1,180 at launch. That seems very aggressive given the compelling value-adds in this design, originally made for OCZ by Flextronics.

    “This notebook was designed specifically for the channel but with all the Tier One features and functionality designed in at the time of launch,” adds Mei. “So the good stuff isn’t just for Tier Ones anymore. Now everybody else can play. That’s why we think that it’s fine to offer the DIY kit as a distribution product, but there’s also a big opportunity here for boutique resellers to compete against Dell and Alienware and all those guys.”

    Resellers can buy this notebook directly from OCZ and sell it either as a parts kit or add the value of building it in-house. With the 15.4" Santa Rosa kit, we didn’t see a strong story behind this latter approach, but the 17" Montevina, with its advantages over competing Tier One designs, is compelling enough to warrant selling as a pre-built unit. Yes, you’ll be fighting for sales against the retail/etail channel, but Mei notes that resellers can expect a “huge” delta between reseller and retail pricing, starting at 12% to 13% on lower-end notebooks and reaching 15% to 20% on the higher end.

    Original Link: http://reselleradvocate.com/public/ram/issues/ram81/ram81_coverstory02.htm
     
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  35. dit_xi

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    Shipment has been delayed to the 22nd. Fudge!
     
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    That Blows! Who might be selling this as the OCZ parts kit?
     
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    Looks like so far OCZ is the only North American distributor of the Flextronics W840-DI. And they've delayed their shipment to 18th or the 22nd.
     
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    Killer Notebooks says they are getting a system to review on Saturday!

    There is a thread at GoG where they have posted a bunch of signature pics and avatar requests. Check out my new sig!
     
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    i cannot wait.

    if the nagamaki looks awesome in real life photos...

    i will get it in a heartbeat
     
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    looks just like m9750 which is sick
     
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    Where might I find these real life photos?
     
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    Thanks!

    In the video on the youtube link it appears as if there's a glossy finish on the whole unit. I would probably prefer it if they stuck with the matte finish on the interior. It looks a lot less prone to sweat damage and ugly fingerprints. That alienware also has analog audio outputs for surround sound, and I only see stereo + mic ports on the OCZ.

    You know, 3D Marks are great, and all that, but I wonder how these 3870's will perform in real world gaming scenarios. Take a look at this:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Call-of-Duty-4-v1-6,746.html

    Here the desktop 3870 (Crossfire) is losing to a single 8800GT, and even the CF 2950XT. It only gains six FPS over a single chip config. The reason I point to Call of Duty 4 as a point of reference is because it's currently what I put the most time into. I basically need to achieve 125 fps and would like to sacrifice as little quality as possible.

    Tom's Q3 2008 charts are pretty interesting/telling in general.
     
  44. Shane@DARK.

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    Those are desktop cards you're looking at, MrBogard :)

    Once we have real-life benchmarks of these laptop cards you'll have your comparison.
     
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    I know it's desktop hardware, but the comparison is still worth considering. I hope someone does some FRAPS benchmarks on Call of Duty 4. I would love to see that game compared between the 9800M series and 3870 Crossfire (mobile)!
     
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    So any news from any retailer about a unit? :D
     
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    These have been delayed, ETA is 09/19-End Of Sept.................
     
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    So October then.. :D
     
  49. Shane@DARK.

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    Hopefully not :rolleyes:
     
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    tomorow KN should be able to tell us
     
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