The Penryn is here!!!

First there was: Penryn is coming..... and now there is this topic!

I'm the lucky one to test the new Penryn processors!!

The processor is a beast: T9300 2.5Ghz 800/6MB cache!!!



The other hardware:
160GB 7200rpm'er HD
2048MB RAM PC5300
Vista Ultimate 32 bit

And there is a 6 cells and a 12 cells batterij included

The things I want to test are:
1. heat output --> They say it's less
2. power consuming, resulting in longer battery times --> Hmm cool..
3. Increased performance --> Great, great, great

All underneath benches are in comparison with my T7500 2,20GHz processor.

1. Heat:
-In idle mode (just surfing) the temperature of the Penryn is about 6 degrees less!
-In idle mode (just surfing) the temperature of the HD is about 4 less!

-In high mode (gaming) the temperature of the Penryn never gets over the 95 degrees!
NotebookHardwareControl is warning me when getting a CPU-temperature of 95 degrees!
When gaming at my 6224W, with NBC on, I am getting that warning in less than 10 minutes, with this penryn nothing
Because I have a 6224W I don't know the exact temperatures of the 'normal' 6625WD's (T7500/ T7700's) and they say that it's just a little bit cooler than the 6224W/ 6324W... But in my humble opinion this processor is a really positive thing whatabout the temperatures!

2. Powerconsuming:
power consuming is quite nice!
With a fully charged 6 cell battery and with 'energysaving' on I get 2,5 hours worktime.
With a fully charged 6 cell battery in my 6224W with 'enerysaving' on I get 1,8 hours worktime!
Tested it with RM-clock and I was quite surprising that it gets about 45 minutes extra worktime!
It can be because the used battery in the T9300-6625WD is totally new, but I don't think so ;-) (tested it with the same battery!)

3. Increased performance: All in comparison with my T7500 processor
-In the Windows Vista Prestationindex I've got a couple of tenths higher!
My T7500 gets a score of 5,1 and the T9300 gets a score of 5,4!

-There is a performance increase of 5,5% with the GPU-test-score of 3D Mark '06!
My T7500 gets a score of 1919 points and the T9300 gets a score of 2025 points!

-SuperPI (2M) is 7,128 seconds faster in comparison with my T7500!
(50,000 sec. vs. 57,128 sec.) That's a performance-increase of 13%!!!
-WPrime (32M) is 6,463 seconds faster in comparison with my T7500!
(34,599 sec. vs. 41,062 sec.) That's a performance-increase of 16%!!

All with all it is a really nice computer that has a quite nice performance-increase in comparison with a T7500. Myself shouldn't upgrade my processor from a T7500 to a T9300 (for a price of: 316 dollar = 215 euro = 160 pound) because of this advantage. The heat and batteryconsumption are imho bigger pro's for this new Penryn processors!! If you can choose between the T7xxx series and the T9xxx series with a little difference in price, go for the T9-series!

The prices for the Penryn-procs on the UK-website are really nice!!!

The 'power' version of the 6224W comes standard with a T8100!
The extra-prices you have to pay for the processorupgrades are:
T7250: 0,3 pound = 0,4 euro
T8300: 35 pounds = 48 euro
T7700: 99 pounds = 135 euro
T9300: 101 pounds = 137 euro
T9500: 289 pounds = 393 euro

The 'power' version of the 6625WD comes standard with a T8100!
The extra-prices you have to pay for the processorupgrades are:
T7500: 34 pounds = 46 euro
T8300: 35 pounds = 48 euro
T7700: 99 pounds = 135 euro
T9300: 101 pounds = 137 euro
T9500: 289 pounds = 393 euro

If you want extravagant power in your laptop go for the T9300! (just like the T7500 users nowadays)
If you are really need the power or you have enough money go for the T9500 (just like the T7700'ers nowadays)
And if you want to be the man, you have enough money and you never want cold legs go for the X9000 (the X7900 nowadays)

All with all the new Penryn processors are really cool (literally and figurative) and you really have to buy them when buying a new Zepto notebook! Upgrading from your T7xxx processor to a T9xxx is your own choice! If you really need the power, need the less heat and need the extra batterypower it would be a nice buy! I am waiting on the new generations Zepto's (with better videocards, better and bigger screens and new features and ofcourse with the new processors)
My personal findings of the new processors is very positive and all with all: BUY IT!! ;-)

 

I want some CPU-Z verification please

 

Haha no problem! First installing Windows, then gonna bench it ;-)

 

Awesome, subscribed to this thread

 

Congrats for the laptop, but your laptop is from the Santa Rosa platform with a Penryn processor. Montevina that has DDR3 and some other stuff will come in Mid-2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino

Looking forwards to the benchmarks nonetheless

 

Changed it! Thanks!

 

My main interest is whether the new technology extends battery time. Or maybe the increased cache size may not help. The 1.0V @ 1.2GHz is the same voltage level as the current CPUs. What is the full voltage range? It would also be useful to know how well Penryn undervolts.

You can make some deductions about power drain by using the battery info page of RMClock. Idle power drain will probably be around 20000mW (ie 20W) but it will be interesting to compare the full load CPU power drain of Penryn with one of the current CPUs.

John

 

So this T9300 works on a Santa Rosa board then? good news for my XPS-M1330 (as i am about to buy a T7700, but it seems that it's worth the wait)

 

2. power consuming is quite nice!
With a fully charged 6 cell battery and with 'energysaving' on I get 2,5 hours worktime!
With a fully charged 6 cell battery in my 6224W with 'enerysaving' on I get 1,8 hours worktime!

I don't know nothing about undervolting (didn't do it on my own Zepto) so I don't think I'm gonna test that!

Yepz!

 

Wow, nice increase in battery life

 

Yeah, that's a good increase in the battery life

Can you try wPrime and post the results ?

 

Check the updated first post!

 

Would this not be a standard difference based on the form factor differences between the 6625 and the 6224? I.e. 6625s run lower temps than 6224s with the same components?

 

6625wd is plausible to run cooler as its 15"

 

That could be

1. I haven't got a 6625WD my own
2. I can't give concrete temperatures so other 6625WD users can bench them!

I have used the laptop for a couple of days now and it's really nice!
Temperatures aren't as high as my 6224W, power consuming is better
and the performance is better (WPrime, SuperPi, games and so on)

 

Yep, that's what i was getting at

 

Hi CLB-NL I've read your short review. If the new t9300 is less than 10% faster than the T7500 (quote: "X,X%") there won't be a great difference to the T7700 at all!
I hoped there would be performance increase of at least 20% to the t7700.

 

I'm still busy with testing, testing, testing!

It runs about 12 hours a day and there are absolutely no heat-issues!
It has to go back to the UK on the 2nd of January, after that I will post
more findings about the processor, and espacially the heat/ powerconsuming!

You have to think that it's only 0,3 GHz (T7500) and 0,1GHz (T7700) faster...
So you can't hope at 20% performance-increase! This processors are also
quite relax, because they are generating less heat and that they can use
the battery efficienter so you can use the battery for a longer time...

That would be the main issue of this processesor (I think)

If you want real power you have to buy a X9000 ;-)

X9000 2.8GHz 44W 800MHz 6MB 851 dollar
T9500 2.6GHz 35W 800MHz 6MB 530 dollar
T9300 2.5GHz 35W 800MHz 6MB 316 dollar
T8300 2.4GHz 35W 800MHz 3MB 241 dollar
T8100 2.1GHz 35W 800MHz 3MB 209 dollar

 

ohly **** 850$ for a processor!!

 

Yeah that's insane, and it's not even quad core!

The difference between 2.8 and 2.6 is 321$

And there's not even much of a difference in speed, you won't notice it. just like T7500 vs. T7700

 

I wouldnt be so shure about that, cos when you look at power consumption
x9000 is 44W
T9500 is 35W

thats a big diffrence!

 

Aye, I dropped the pennies for the 2.4ghz but only because I wanted to
future proof it is as much as possible. I can say the difference between
my 2.4 and my wifes' 2.2 is minimal at best. Only when running processes
side by side can you really notice the difference.

 

And then knowing that the Montevina-platform Penryns will have a 25 Watt tdp

 

Tomorrow the laptop has to go back so know I'm uninstalling
all the benchmarksoftware! The 6/7th of January I will put some
concrete benchmarks in this topic with a little opinion from me
of the new Penryn processors! Questions? Ask me!!

 

Looking forward to it

Did you test undervolting?

 

Noopz not undervolted it!

Didn't do that on my own Zepto so I just don't want to
take the risk with this new processor! I'm sorry

 

New CPU´s going on the websites now!

As with most changes it happens on the Danish website first

 

Hello ZeptoUK,

I have just received my 6224W with a 2.0 CPU but I am looking to change the CPU to a Penryn. Will it be possible to swap my 6224W 2.0 CPU to a Penryn at the additional cost, or is the Penryn avaliable only with a brand new unit. I want to be rid of the high temperature and heat issues I've been having with this 2.0 CPU. The Penryn seems to offer better operating processes in this area.

I am only interested in swaping the CPU and would pay the additional costs.

 

I will have to ask if we can do this or not. Officially we would be the only people to do it without voiding the warranty. We have a lot of work on the websites but when we get the offical line up I will ask if this can be done

 

The prices for the Penryn-procs on the UK-website are really nice!!!

The 'power' version of the 6224W comes standard with a T8100!
The extra-prices you have to pay for the processorupgrades are:
T7250: 0,3 pound = 0,4 euro
T8300: 35 pounds = 48 euro
T7700: 99 pounds = 135 euro
T9300: 101 pounds = 137 euro
T9500: 289 pounds = 393 euro

The 'power' version of the 6625WD comes standard with a T8100!
The extra-prices you have to pay for the processorupgrades are:
T7500: 34 pounds = 46 euro
T8300: 35 pounds = 48 euro
T7700: 99 pounds = 135 euro
T9300: 101 pounds = 137 euro
T9500: 289 pounds = 393 euro

 

I Just checked the Zepto site, and I can configure a machine with better specs than I have now for an even lower price when I bought mine

Oh well, not gonna buy a new notebook until Montevina

 

I am getting my 6224W with the new T8100 Hopefully it should improve the battery life further. After recommending and getting Zepto laptops for many friends of mine, at last I am getting my own one I really cannot wait

 

Someone raised a question in the hardware forum about some Penryn CPUs only working with Vista.

I checked on the Zepto site and see:

This qualification about only working with Visa wasn't on the Zepto site yesterday. Can Zepto explain?

John

 

Basically we only have full support for Vista currently as we launch these CPU´s. We are running lots of XP tests as well and soon as we have everything to support it , it will become an option as well

 

Interesting that it only works with Vista...

What could that be, I mean, a processor?

Oh ZeptoUK posted same time as I were typing lol

 

Anyone know if it would be possible to buy these new cpu's alone? And then change it yourself and get new power to your "old" laptop

 

I really want to get the 6625 with a T9300, but delivery time is 25 days

I wonder if the sale will be over in 25 days time.

 

Ja duhuh what do you think
That Intel has a airplane full of Penryn CPU's and dropping that at Zepto

 

But what does it matter if the sales are over? You order it now, not then

 

Probably Zepto will get the new Penryns in 2/3 weaks..
Then they have to assemble it and send it to the customer = 25 days!

 

I heard we are getting them sooner than that. I will check when I am at work tomorrow and let you know. The delivery could be showing that as it doesnt know the date for the CPU intake

 

That depends on who'll be delivering the machine. If it's PostDenmark expect delays and delays

Can zepto send the machine with another courier if the costumer wants that?

 

Yes, we also have the option of shipping the machine with UPS (also with COD (Cash on delivery)) so you can pay your order when receiving it. This also includes Denmark.
Actually shipping with UPS has become cheaper than Post Denmark after 1/1-2008, as Post Denmark upped their COD prices.
UPS also delivers to the door. Post Denmark has now stopped doing that with COD shipments.

 

... now we only still need a 8800m for 6625 !!!

 

I think the plan is to put the 8800m GTX in the 17", right?

 

Nobody is gonna tell you that (A)

 

To put a 8800GTX in the 6625WD is highly unlikely, so you probably can stop dreaming about that .

What will be in the announced 17" is still confidential, and as far as I know, not 100% completely decided yet.

 

Noone answered my question though, so ill try again

Would it be possible to by the new cpu's as a single component at upgrade your old duo2 core yourself? or do they only ship with new computers? :/

 

Yes...that will be expensive...and will/might void your warranty.

 

It would void the warranty for sure as you have to go underneath the keyboard