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    CF-30 MK1 Memory , HDD and W7 upgrade Info

    Discussion in 'Panasonic' started by SirJ, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. Shawn

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    From your photos, you do not have a gps antenna. Notice the huge corner bulge in this photo. That is a gps antenna on a cf 30
    [​IMG]
     
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    Here is a video to watch.

     
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    Again, I purchased a GPS antenna, the cover and the board. If I install it I can use GPS once I install drivers and update bios. Correct?

    Saw that video last night, started the install on the 30 this morning before work.
     
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    Ok.
    Yes it will show in any BIOS version after you install the module.
     
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    Now I understand...I didn't know you bought one. Some new Toughbook owners think the wwan antenna is a GPS antenna and I figured that is what you thought.
     
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    you forgot to include a bottle of aspirin .
    :p
     
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    Just an update*

    New touch/palmrest sticker came in today along with a free back/bottom cover.

    Photo of of brand new TouchPad: [​IMG]
    I installed the windows 7 sticker because this laptop will have windows 7.
    Also machine already is 9 out of 10 mint. Just love that sparkle off the palm rest!
     
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    yeppers ...
    it is starting to shape up .

    the lid screws as well as some others can be touched up by removing them and using a black "sharpie" on them .
     
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    Is there a zip file that has all the Vista drivers for the mk1? Bluetooth, finger print,touch, GPS etc? I decided since the laptop is COA Vista to keep it Vista as 7 isn't that much better then Vista. I don't plan on buying 160+ gb of memory either lol
     
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    I thought it had a XP COA ? That is why you had to upgrade the BIOS because it never had the Vista on it. I know when it left the factory it had XP.

     
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    The coa on the bottom is Vista business.
    I'm going to install ultimate.
     
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    win xp installed from factory, but it came with a vista coa , in case the owner wanted to upgrade.
    Upgrade to anything but xp will require a bios flash
     
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    Have you ever checked the BIOS to see if the model number is the same. Something is not right. You had a XP BIOS on your 30. It was not a downgraded XP BIOS because it would of been a different BIOS number. Most likely someone else put the Vista COA on it or just replace the bottom cover.
     
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    Yes but the configuration page normally says that...example...XP (Vista COA)
     
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    Ok, now I see what you meant
     
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    Should I put Xp on it, run the bios flash then upgrade to vista or option 2 continue to reinstall Vista when my disc arrives and run the bios update? I have a XP pro disk sitting in front of me.
     
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    Did you read the BIOS flash instructions?
    I would load XP, Verify that all of the hardware works properly, then update the BIOS.

    CASE 1 – When upgrading to Windows Vista

    Procedure I: Save your settings of Setup utility
    (1) Shut down the computer.
    (2) Turn on the computer, and press [F2] several times while “Panasonic” boot screen is
    displayed.
    (3) Write down all of the contents of the Setup utility.


    Procedure II: Preparing the BIOS update program
    (1) Turn on the computer, and log on to Windows as an administrator.
    (2) Execute “bios_30_1_r070208.exe”.
    (3) Read the license agreement carefully, and click [Yes].
    (4) The screen to specify the destination location appears. The default location is
    “c:\upbios”. Specify your location and click [OK]. (You usually don’t need to change
    the location.)
     
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    ok, was messing with power options, i chnged the display to adaptive and the FN + brightness and or sound does not i repeat DOES NOT cause the display to flash. unfortunately i deleted the FN app which i am trying to find now to put back. Machine is running windows 7 still. Bios is still out dated as i am not ready for the reinstall yet.

    i tried the darrin g zip and those hkeyapp drivers do not work with windows 7
     
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    Maybe because you have not updated the BIOS yet. All of the drivers have worked for me and many others but we did the BIOS update
     
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    there is a sequence of events for a reason . :vbwink:
    there are several things in the bios updates to adapt it to be able to run W7 efficiently and to interface between the "machine/firmware side" and the software side .

    a little mind fodder ...
    take a machine that is running XP with nooooo problems ... you load W7 and the same machine with no firmware or hardware changes may not even boot up or it will be crashing and puking all over the place .
    there are cases of a machine not liking an OS so much that without the bios update first before attempting to load the new OS , the machine can/will be *bricked* .
    and by bricked it means just that ... you are now the proud owner of a high-tech doorstop .
    i had two older toshiba laptops that i tried to load a flavor of ubuntu on (mint 6 and 9 , more specifically) .
    these machines were given to me and did not have enough "horsepower" to run a modern antivirus (unless you wanted to wait for 2 minutes for firefox to open) .
    the first machine i had no idea about until it was bricked and then i did the recon and found out what was going on .
    the second machine i got about two years ago ... i figured that i would see if things were different ... nope ... another brick .
    i don't feel bad ... it cost me nothing , there are guys (several years back) that had brand new toshiba laptops that they bricked ...
    this was a 500-900 dollar lesson learned .

    is it possible to brick a panasonic machine ?
    technically , it is possible to brick any machine ...
    it all depends on/ultimately how deep my pockets are .
     
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    Would you happen to know how to boot to USB? Made a Windows 7 USB stick last night and was up all night messing with the boot order and tried F12 and couldn't get it to boot via USB.
     
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    make sure boot usb hard drive is first on the boot order list
     
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    My options in bios:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Include usb hdd

    highlight boot option #1.
    press enter.
    hightlight USB HDD from popup menu
    press enter

    highlight boot option #2
    press enter.
    hightlight USB KEY from popup menu
    press enter

    highlight boot option #3.
    press enter.
    hightlight UJDA760 from popup menu
    press enter

    highlight boot option #4
    press enter.
    hightlight SAMSUNG 840 from popup menu
    press enter
     
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    OK, now what? Did that it still boots up to this: which is the HD
    [​IMG]
     
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    Post a photo of the boot options screen since you made the changes.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    this is annoying neither of those work i def dont want to install linux. i the fort usb tool and it says the XP files are not DOS enabled or something. i accidentally cracked my windows xp pro disk and i only have XP via ZIP file. So i guess i am not installing XP but Vista HOPEFULLY i can use VISTA to UPDATE the damn bios
     
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    i'll do some experimenting with the pendrive and see what's going on .
    man , i am thinking that it worked for me ... i love my meds ... uuuggghhh .
    oh ... it does take some time to format a usb drive and then write the info to it ... i would imagine about 10-15 minutes .

    i do have the universal installer disks for vistaless and W7 ... they work well .
     
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    My original plan was do for Xp use Xp to update bios then upgrade to vista then upgrade to 7...BUT if I don't need XP to do the bios update then I'll put in Vista and run the bios update.... I am unclear what version of Windows the bios update works with. We have already established that it does NOT work while running Windows 7 hence why I'm downgrading.
     
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    you have to match the OS to the bios ... with it being "backwards compatible" (to the best of my knowledge) ...
    ergo , the bios written for W7 will also allow the installation of vistaless and XP .
    (somebody "sanity check" this)

    if your bios is currently good for vista , then install it and save yourself the headache of going the XP route .
    if it is not , you might get away with installing vistaless with the current bios and it may run stable enough to then flash the bios to either the "proper" bios for vistaless or flash to W7 bios and jump to W7 .

    @Shawn ...
    which bios is in that '30 you sent ?
     
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    The original poster has the XP bios. He needs the Vista bios to move forward.

    Yours is a mk3. Totally different. Keep yer eggs outta the watermelon.
     
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    ok ...
    i just got done using my "universal installer" pen drive to start loading vista on a blank HDD in one of my 30's via a usb thumb drive .
    a couple of questions / is this the steps/method you have performed ...
    back in the bios you have to select which device to boot from to load the OS .
    the path to this is :
    plug the usb thumbdrive/usb disk into the usb on the side of the '30
    boot into the bios
    go to the "exit" tab
    you will find "boot override" .
    under boot override there will be xxxx usb disk xxxx
    select it
    do a "F10"
    select yes
    enter
    watch the blinking lights
    this should work if you have made the pen drive correctly .
    please note ... the key must match what flavor of vista was installed ... usually (to the best of my knowledge) this was "vista business' 32 bit .
    what you put on the pendrive has to be that version .

    if this fails , i can post my vista universal installer at "dropbox" ...
    this is another method that has worked for me .
     
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    His boot order should be correct by default . I had him change that a couple days ago.

    Larry, I suggest you make your attempts on your mk1. That is the same mk he has.
     
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    Wonder if that BIOS flasher would run from a PE version of XP? I bet it would.
    That would be easy to setup all on a usb key. Even the flash program
     
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    ok ... i can do that ... i'll post something in the AM .

    things ya think ya read ...
    "Larry, I suggest you make your armpits on your mk1."
    just for a second i went WTH ???
    :confused: :D :p
     
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    i read yer next post ...
    i really think it might be easier for him to do the unisquirrel installer .
    to make them , a couple of files need to be removed to allow the option of selecting which flavor of an OS is installed ...
    this is set when the key is entered .
     
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    What do you have installed now on your 30 now. XP or W7 ?? What I would do if I was you is install the BIOS update...it does not matter what OS you have installed at this point. When you have done that install Vista and see how it runs and then install W7. This is what I did.
     
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    Well my thoughts with PE was it could all be run from the usb stick. No installation of XP on the HDD needed.
     
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    It will not run the update! It gives me an error. I was under the impression the update only works with xp
     
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    Here is a great step by step How to install Win7 on a mk1.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-7-on-a-cf-30-mk1-model.476149/#post-6145673

    Can you post a photo of the first page of your BIOS screen? The one with the model number and BIOS version.
    From what I have read, that flasher should have ran on any version of windows. Something is wrong here.

    Here is a direct link for the BIOS update from win xp to win Vista.
    http://pc-dl.panasonic.co.jp/dl/download/file/11544/s9436971/27f0504da861f106/bios_30_1_r070208.exe
     
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    When you run the update from the upbios folder, I would try to just double click the file first.

    If that does not work, try this

    Procedure III: Execute the BIOS update program
    (1) Select [Start]-[Run], enter “ c:/upbios/wb301v20”, and click [OK]. (I corrected the typo)
    (2) Click [Continue] at the User Access Control screen.
    (3) Confirm that “V1.01L20” is displayed as “New BIOS”, and Click [Write].
    (4) Click [Yes].
    (5) Click [Yes].
    (6) Click [OK] to shut down the computer.
    (7) Power on the computer and be patient to wait until the message to press <F2> to
    enter SETUP, which indicates that BIOS update is complete. It takes a little while.
    (8) Press [F2] to enter SETUP.
    (9) Set System Time and System Date at Main menu.
    (10) Press [F10] and [Enter].
    (11) Upgrade to Windows Vista using Windows Vista Product Recovery DVD-ROM.
    (Refer to the Operating Instructions Manual.)
    (12) Change Setup utility settings to the previous one written down at the step I-(3) if
    necessary.
     
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    I have done the update using Vista and W7 with no problem. I think I have a 30MK1 in the shop , if I do I will run the update to see what happens with W7.
     
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    as an option ... if/when yer back is up agin the wall ...
    forget dropbox ... i can't shove the unisquirrel in there .
    what i can do is post it as a torrent file and send you the url .
    do you know how to run a torrent client ?

    crap ... i knew i forgot something ...
    i'll swap the hdd in my '30 MK1 and give it a whirl .
     
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    I want to see a screen shot of the BIOS. Something else is very wrong here.
    That update file should have ran in any version of windows.
    Why did he get the error? (This program will not run on this PC) That error only happens when the BIOS update is run on the wrong machine. Wrong as in wrong model 29,30, 31 etc. Wrong as in mk 1,2,3, etc. Wrong as in Federal or Corporate model with locked BIOS (not password locked.) Usually these have a mXX at the end of the BIOS version.


    I am looking at these possibilities. We have seen these all happen here.
    1) It is not a mk1 that he has.
    2) He has a special BIOS that is locked from updating.
    3) This is all "joke"

    [​IMG]
     
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